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kornuletz
Hired Hero
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posted November 10, 2010 11:18 PM |
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I think Monks will be core. They would complement the praetorians and crossbowmen nicely.
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Zenofex
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Kreegan-atheist
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posted November 10, 2010 11:21 PM |
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Edited by Zenofex at 23:23, 10 Nov 2010.
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Or the shining figure atop Haven's army is actually a "good ghost" balancing Necropolis' "bad ghost" and thus fits as a Core creature quite nicely.
By the way, as usual, Elvin hints that there might be monks, but doesn't say whether they will be part of the faction army or generally anything specific
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xerox
Promising
Undefeatable Hero
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posted November 10, 2010 11:40 PM |
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seeing as how many vip guys werent even sure if pit fiend was a champion, i dont really think they know who all the next creatures are untill about a day or so before when they are released on facebook
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MrDragon
Supreme Hero
Eats people with Ketchup
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posted November 10, 2010 11:46 PM |
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Well, they knew about the Tormentor LONG before the art was out, they dropped that Kreegan hint pretty early after the initial news wave.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted November 10, 2010 11:48 PM |
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Many?
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Maken
Known Hero
Hail Hydra!
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posted November 10, 2010 11:49 PM |
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First thank you and Elvin for sparing me the work of posting data from the video (although I did saw it again and got the same 'statistics')
Quote:
So my bet is on a monk or priest for core, I mean Ghosts are core level caster-ish units now, why not Monks/Priests?
Yeah, that is one of the reasons that made me think that Haven could get a monk for core caster, as offensive is not quite haven's thing. Plus the similarity between sentinel and footman. I mean, they don't have to be awesomely powerful casters, but could do some low level magic that supports haven core combat characteristics and still be seem as a unit that must be dealt with, like what seems to happen with the ghost.
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xerox
Promising
Undefeatable Hero
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posted November 11, 2010 12:02 AM |
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well atleast 2 that I know of and a 3rd was very cryptic so he may not have been sure about it either
i imagine that the thread was like this:
black hole vip forums
new topics
FEEDBACK: Pit Fiend and Pit Lord
So we finished the last details on this creature. BLA BLA it summons destructive stuff BLA BLA. Feedback on it please. Oh, it is the second most powerful inferno creature.
bla bla bla
Vip Mod: Now we have published it. Go ahead and talk about it on the forums.
HC/OFFICIAL FORUMS: LOLZ guys the pit fiend is not a champion creature meaning it is not the most powerful demon.
Vip Mod: Oh, you all misunderstood. It is the most powerful creature in the line-up. We just said that the Arch Demons were the most powerful inferno creature cus they appear as bosses.
HC/OFFICIAL FORUMS: Because of a super secret reason that will never go public cus which would spoil the whole game, we were mistaken and fiends are champions.
HC/OFFICIAL FORUMS community: This confusiopn games you do stop getting funny after a few pages... Oh, since their champions can w have them as Digimon?
thats seriously how i imagined it
but if monk is not the new creature and you are just playing with us again, i can never trust you again when it comes to h6 creatures xD
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted November 11, 2010 12:10 AM |
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It's simple really. Someone was mistaken or missed something.
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dibens
Tavern Dweller
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posted November 11, 2010 01:15 AM |
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With seraphs, griffins and crusaders fighting in the front lines, Sentinels alone won't be enough to protect crossbowmen and priests. I can see a zealous paladin with two-handed sword as an elite unit.
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phinex
Adventuring Hero
for sylvan
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posted November 11, 2010 05:38 AM |
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Edited by phinex at 11:54, 11 Nov 2010.
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So far we got sentinel£¨walker£©crossbowman£¨archer£©sun rider£¨rider£©griffin £¨flyer£©sereph£¨flyer or maybe caster£©.
It can be noticed that there are no caster/supporter in haven,hence
I guess the rest two units will become that.
If the light spirit counts as a unit£¬then I wish the last unit is a caster£¬maybe be priest/cleric is a good idea.
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phinex
Adventuring Hero
for sylvan
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posted November 11, 2010 05:50 AM |
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Quote:
Edit: Later fight.
7 Griffins attack 11 Vampires, deal 66 damage.
11 Vampires counterattack, deal 117 damage, kill one.
45 Ghouls attack the stack of 6 griffins next, calculation shows inflicting 3 hundred something (can't read) to 373 damage, prediction shows 5-6 will die.
The ghouls are doine much less damage, per ghoul then the vampire.
Vampire hitting for more then 10, ghoul hitting for around 8 damage maximum, and that is with their ability that boosts damage when attacking living targets.
Their attack deals 317, killing 5.
13 Griffins battledive the lich stack, dealing 109 damage, killing one.
Vampires are elite and dealing comparative damage and taking comparative damage to the Griffins, meaning they have similar attack and defense stats, implying they are roughly on the same stat budget, implying they are the same tier.
I'd say the evidence is rather strong.
Good job!
Then skeletons deal 56 damage and griffin die.
So 7 griffins have 117+317+56=490hp,each griffin has 70hp.Accord to this,the griffin is definitely a elite unit.
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Ebonite
Adventuring Hero
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posted November 11, 2010 07:33 AM |
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Quote: With seraphs, griffins and crusaders fighting in the front lines, Sentinels alone won't be enough to protect crossbowmen and priests. I can see a zealous paladin with two-handed sword as an elite unit.
A very possible solution. make it an absolute battle tank, hard to kill, big damage (double handed sword, Considering the scope of design for haven units so far, the bigger the the sword the better).
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Danny
Famous Hero
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posted November 11, 2010 08:29 AM |
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Pretty sure Erwan confirmed monks in one of the Gamescom interviews.
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Paiazza
Known Hero
لىخ ضل
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posted November 11, 2010 03:19 PM |
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Edited by Paiazza at 15:21, 11 Nov 2010.
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If the units from Sveltana image are indeed in-game units that leaves only this posibility. Heaven's last two units are (spirit or Sylath child or sylph) and (swordsman or paladin).
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veco
Legendary Hero
who am I?
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posted November 11, 2010 03:34 PM |
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That's a Jedi if I ever saw one, you can't see him clearly because he's using Mind Trick.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted November 11, 2010 03:52 PM |
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Epic boner is the new sun rider's special ability. You would have it too if you had naked chicks flying around you.
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MrDragon
Supreme Hero
Eats people with Ketchup
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posted November 11, 2010 10:38 PM |
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Edited by MrDragon at 22:44, 11 Nov 2010.
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NEXT TIME ON MIGHT AND MAGIC:
Who is this new mysterious creature?
Where does she come from?
And how hard will the fanbase rage?!
Will people stop derailing threads all the time?! (the announcer is guilty too)
And more importantly... does Chuck Norris fear Mr.Fish? (cookie for the reference and the answer is YES, yes he does!)
Find out next time on Might and Magic!
My bets are:
Within the next 24 hours.
Necro creature.
Champion unit.
Edit: and could somebody preen those pictures that are inflating the thread boundaries?
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xerox
Promising
Undefeatable Hero
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posted November 11, 2010 10:45 PM |
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Oh now that you mentioned a "she", I came to think of that I would love one of the new Haven creatures to be a human FEMALE monk/cleric/templar.
Because there has never ever been a human female creature.
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kornuletz
Hired Hero
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posted November 11, 2010 11:47 PM |
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Yeah, to human monkness/monkress.
Also, I think having 5/7 from each of the three factions is enough now, they should reveal the fourth and units from the fourth, and give us the rest of the creatures for these three factions at a much later date, to keep us interest for these factions awake.
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admira
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted November 12, 2010 02:54 AM |
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Edited by admira at 03:02, 12 Nov 2010.
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Quote: That's a Jedi if I ever saw one, you can't see him clearly because he's using Mind Trick.
OMG! Is that a Darth Vader Helmet I am seeing? or this is just another Jedi mind trick?
Anyway, I am interested in racial skill and Heroes specialty if possible with the "skill tree" (detailed explanation) and of course an announcement of the 4th would be great as well.
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