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Thread: The most important message
Celfious
Celfious


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posted September 11, 2003 08:51 AM
Edited By: Celfious on 11 Sep 2003

The most important message

Edit 11- simplified English terminology

I'm not trying tooo... whatever.. I didn't even notice todays date. but that dosnt matter its just symbolic.
There is a powerplant method as the 16th post (or so)

This is, really the most important message. I know it wont change much right here, but someone has to figure out how to evolve man kind.

Pls share all comments.. All coments..



Quote:

The world evolves into a very specific out come. The natrual things this physical reality provides out of earth enables life. The future univers is substantialy affected by human powers to alter things to serve us. Our ability to alter our mind and the physical plane is very impactful to the evolution of the world.

As time went our minds and the things we do to earth reshaped. Even though our ability to
think,
change thoughts
change mental structures, (example religion and politics)
reform the biological properties within the physical planes
(and other things)
is percived amazing it seemingly made some of the universe man serving. (Good and bad ways, with holistic reasons, causes and effects)  

Each human being should beable to see that it is what we have that is beautiful. It is what we do with our ability to change our man made mental structures and the earth that spoils and gifts the future state of the world. We want to shape the world so that it continues to serve us, although we are stuborn to sacrifice the many bad things we do. It is required that we reshape the way we affect the universe & the future, if we want to preserve the world, and make it gift bearing.

We must evolve, into something new. Man nurturing earth, so that we continue to be nurtured through out existance.


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bjorn190
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posted September 11, 2003 09:22 AM bonus applied.

I will answer this one with a series of quotes:

Anatole France:
To accomplish great things, we must not only act, but also dream; not only plan, but also believe.

George Bernard Shaw:
Some men see things as they are and say, "Why?" I dream of things that never were and say, "Why not?"

John Lennon:
Imagine all the people living life in peace. You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one. I hope someday you'll join us, and the world will live as one.


Alex Carey:
... the 20th century has been characterized by three developments of great political importance: The growth of democracy, the growth of corporate power, and the growth of corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against democracy.

Australian social scientist, quoted by Noam Chomsky in World Orders Old and New


Dorothy Thompson:
The only force that can overcome an idea and a faith is another and better idea and faith, positively and fearlessly upheld.


Eugene McCarthy:
As long as the differences and diversities of mankind exist, democracy must allow for compromise, for accommodation, and for the recognition of differences.


Mohandas K. Gandhi:
When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall -- think of it, ALWAYS.


Noam Chomsky:
In this possibly terminal phase of human existence, democracy and freedom are more than just ideals to be valued - they may be essential to survival.


Albert Einstein:
A human being is a part of the whole called by us universe, a part limited in time and space. He experiences himself, his thoughts and feeling as something separated from the rest, a kind of optical delusion of his consciousness. This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting us to our personal desires and to affection for a few persons nearest to us. Our task must be to free ourselves from this prison by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature in its beauty.


Eugene V. Debs:
Years ago I recognized my kinship with all living things, and I made up my mind that I was not one bit better than the meanest on the earth. I said then and I say now, that while there is a lower class, I am in it; while there is a criminal element, I am of it; while there is a soul in prison, I am not free.


Martin Luther King, Jr.:
I look forward confidently to the day when all who work for a living will be one with no thought to their separateness as Negroes, Jews, Italians or any other distinctions. This will be the day when we bring into full realization the American dream -- a dream yet unfulfilled. A dream of equality of opportunity, of privilege and property widely distributed; a dream of a land where men will not take necessities from the many to give luxuries to the few; a dream of a land where men will not argue that the color of a man's skin determines the content of his character; a dream of a nation where all our gifts and resources are held not for ourselves alone, but as instruments of service for the rest of humanity; the dream of a country where every man will respect the dignity and worth of the human personality.


Sogyal Rinpoche:
...when we finally know we are dying, and all other sentient beings are dying with us, we start to have a burning, almost heartbreaking sense of the fragility and preciousness of each moment and each being, and from this can grow a deep, clear, limitless compassion for all beings.

And finally, something I have taken to my heart..

Ralph Waldo Emerson:
My country is the world, and my religion is to do good.


You see, the answers aren't hidden.. they are just not looked for or defended. It takes someone, somewhere, to start it all.. and for others to follow. It's a choice each of us has to make, to do good living for others, or to live for oneself.

For me, this choice has not been easy. But in the end of my inferno, I realized that I cannot deny the wish of my heart. I have a duty. Because I see clearly, with love. Because I have compassion with the world. And because I have a few years of life left in this body still. Life is the power to make a change. And all I can do is my best.

If you try hard enough, you can accomplish anything

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Celfious
Celfious


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posted September 11, 2003 09:45 AM
Edited By: Celfious on 11 Sep 2003

1 thing that may be a better idea.. Is finding alternate modes of convenient travel.. (live stock horses & carrige.. Treat the beasts with kindess?? Make humans do all the work??)

Another thing..

America may have to die.. May have to go.
Then the huge island in the EAST would be alone, waiting for proper dynasty. on the right side of the map. Leaving the left side alone to cultivate, and use it for other things if possible.

This could be a fair judgment by God if there is a god, to leave humans another chance to take power under holy rule.. Leaving each man to do good for all humans.

Although, perhaps it's not nessesary.. Perhaps a god would see fit to divinely intervine if man tries to eliminate the US which may or may not destroy the earths orbit.

If a bomb went of and turned US, mexico, and Canada into ash, then america would be a free land, and perhaps UK, would come look for survivors. I would like to live in the UK, sure.. Although uniteing all nations or more valuable NADO is the beast way to go.

Teach kids the definition of Ethnic relativism, and Ethnocentrism.


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bjorn190
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posted September 11, 2003 09:53 AM

lol celf

Lets not go nuts

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Celfious
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posted September 11, 2003 10:00 AM

If america is gone, then mass farming and everything could be here.. There would be a new technoligical development to swiftly travel the waters, sending amazingg amounts of food and other products within 1 day.. Not consuming negatively, more energy than the earth can stably provide.

PPL, would be home 1 week, and at work the next (mostly a sceduale like this)

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Celfious
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posted September 11, 2003 11:59 PM
Edited By: Celfious on 11 Sep 2003

Unreal I amn so angry right now.. You PPL either arent reading the first post, or your demented in the skulls. (or you just cant see the message, even though its arguable to be the most important in the universe)

*Moons the world*

It's not hard to interpret!

It's man kind that let these major things lose terminology!
Without words, there is no disscussion. Without terms for these things, we hardly discuss the reality of the world.


Weak stuborn headed individuals
They should make a word to difine men who are selfish, and take no part in making this earth a better place for our future blood lines.

Think about electricity, leaving lights on..
And all other wasted resourses..
We will have to mine dump sites 1 day (unless we are elminiated first, or do something about it now)

If the earth can only provide so much electricity, (for example of all resources) then when I, or anyone leavs the lights on.. I am probably robbing my decendants OUR decendents.. (This is unless humans die)




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arachnid
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posted September 12, 2003 12:40 AM

what the hell are you talking about?
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Celfious
Celfious


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posted September 12, 2003 12:58 AM
Edited By: Celfious on 11 Sep 2003

The wise, preferably use acolytes or something to interpret their scriptures to the common folk  which are hard of hearing.

Since no ones willing, or intelligent enough, I'll think about transcribing the message (first post) into LAymen terms.


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Dingo
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posted September 12, 2003 01:03 AM

Celfious why is it that your threads are always confusing?
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arachnid
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posted September 12, 2003 01:12 AM

what the hell are you talking about?
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Dingo
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posted September 12, 2003 01:13 AM
Edited By: Dingo on 11 Sep 2003

arachnid your new sig is way better than the Dancing Spidey!
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Saruman
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posted September 12, 2003 03:04 AM

WTF is going on?
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posted September 12, 2003 03:07 AM

Quote:
what the hell are you talking about?



Yes we would all like to know what Celfious is talking about.  I swear Celfious sometimes I think your in your own little world...
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bort
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posted September 12, 2003 04:33 AM

I'll ask you the same question I ask all of the would be prophets who try to convert me :

Can the decomposing clown corpse in my basement be our new god?
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Celfious
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posted September 12, 2003 05:36 AM
Edited By: Celfious on 11 Sep 2003

ELECTRICITY PLANTS

God is what God is bort.. Dont yell at someone you dont know is real or not.  

If you know electricity, read this.. Because you should know it would work. (This is only the rough design.. There will be more bearings to suport the rotating poles)

There is a few ways to make electricity. Heres 1 no one used but when you all run out of fuel..

Find a heavy water fall. Use wood paddles/propeller like things which are pushed in a spinning motion from the waters force.  Attatch this to a sturdy pole protected with rubber maid like material (the rubbermaid is stationary) and mechanicaly enable it to spin with supports holding it at mechanical bearings.

Have heavy reinforcements holding it up.
The generator is not near the water,  it's mechanicly linked to the rotators.

The rotating device, rotates the magnetic field, and the armiture windings will be induced with electricity. However the output of the motor will be unstable.. use high tech rehostats and governers

If, there are more complications, use the unstable primary generators to supply a load center. From the load center you can run a motor generator. and have posotive control on on the motors speed, and the generators output.

This method may require digging canals. This method can even be used in white water rapids, but not as able to produce the amount of rotation the water falls would.

Humans must now study the dynamics and motions.. Much more. This will be useful, and technology is more wide open in these areas than ppl know. Also, study how to find how rivers continue to flow.. The world is multi leveled, and somewhere the same water makes it's way back up to the top of the rivers. (in a way) Find these awnsers and diagram the earth. Learn the uses of it's magnificant shape.. Godspeed.

I forsee, an energy free moving device in waters.. but I dont see how they will accomplish this.  It will be a glorious beakthrough led by, and leading to many new things, although not as directly helpful as electricity and communications. (?? probably not anyways)
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Celfious
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posted September 12, 2003 05:48 AM

*Already thought of primitive energy free moving devices.. Although it needs driving movement :/

The technology strived for, is movement without having to be driven by other things. What will this be used for, you might ask.. Well, we need to know everything we can do with the earth. Because piece of knowledge is a piece to a puzzle. Learn everything you humans can, and put together a beautiful world for your blood lines. Where food, and technology, is not expensive. And work, is not so much demanded anymore. Where more in life is free. Where the governments, and hierarchies do, and will give to the people. And reduce prices.

and cultures, 1 day will know what cultural relativism, and ethnocentrism are. They will know in there hearts that all are equal, and we harvest the world. For every cut down tree, plant 10 more. If to many grow, cut more down and only plant 5 per cut down tree..

Trees take along time to grow, and I doubt humans can make more trees than they can handle.
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bjorn190
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posted September 12, 2003 08:37 AM

Dear Bort,

Im not 100% sure about that clown corpse. But chances are that it is in fact god. Im just not sure if he is new or not. Could you give more detail please?

And celf, do you mean a hydroelectrical plant? they exist already u know..

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Celfious
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posted September 12, 2003 11:01 AM

Great =D

I wonder if ships movement would spin a generator fast enough to supply itself supplimental energy.. Of course there would be an initial tourque.. Such as gasolline, or primitive bikes.. Or the many other ways (diesle, turbine, blablablaa)

These paddle/wave driven motors would only be secondary, but would provide suplemental energy that the fuel driven may go of line sometimes.

I do know, these Y shaped rotating paddles can provide more rudders (?? the spinning things in the back of the ship) if mechanicaly linked properly. Although these are supplemental aswell. (and 1% sustainable to debree damage)

Take the ideas.. (Its the thought that counts bjorn)
lol

Here is one more..
Imagine the wheels of the tanks..
On the side of the ship, there are cup like things that the water pushes back. The cups come out of water, putting the ones at the other end of the chain back into the water. This slows down the ships movement.. But with gears.. speed up the cycle inside the ship for more uses like motors, generators, and more rudders.

These methods slow down the ships, these methods are sustainable to damage.... It is possible, that this technology can provide useful twords the direction of self moving mechanisms, if not useful enough to implement.

USE trees to make electricity too.. The logs fit into groves, and the logs fall down a very very steep pattern. They are heavy, and would provide a very very fast rotation of generators and motors. Very fast.

Dose this provide enough energy to provide the means to return the trees to it's high point?? I dont know.. i dunno. Mabey. perhaps even we could get so many of these trees that we can find a flowing path of water to return them to a hig point again? Yes it's possible, cuz the world is round but it may be along long path.. It would seem like water always flows down, but where did the water from the top start? The earth is round we can use this to our advantage 1 day.

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bjorn190
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posted September 12, 2003 09:56 PM

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I wonder if ships movement would spin a generator fast enough to supply itself supplimental energy.. Of course there would be an initial tourque.. Such as gasolline, or primitive bikes.. Or the many other ways (diesle, turbine, blablablaa)

These paddle/wave driven motors would only be secondary, but would provide suplemental energy that the fuel driven may go of line sometimes.


I dont think that would work, because the energy gathered would be a brake, taking energy directly from the movement.

It might be useful if you were really really low on fuel and wanted to go in another direction, or if you wanted to divert energy from movement to lifesupport.

But basically, you cant create energy out of nowhere. It comes at a cost. In this case, the cost is that the ship stops moving.

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Draco
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posted September 12, 2003 10:09 PM

as for the hydro electric dams, i dont know about you but about 100% of our electricity in Manitoba comes from hydro dams up north. we even sell some to others. this is a renewabble source of energy that we exploit. you can do this in the ocean as well.. using the high and low tides to your advantage. or you can use the same turbine theory to use wind to your advantage.. i dont remember which but there is a european country that gets like 70% of its power from wind.

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