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valkyrica
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posted November 07, 2003 10:42 PM |
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h3 tossers and h4 tossers UNITE !!!:)
Jinxer, apart from insulting me directly ... i don't recall calling you an snow or the sort, but that only proves how childish you are. Once one disapproves with your views (in a peaceful manner i would say) you go on cursing and insulting him ... so exactly childish ! Ball has decades over you, sorry to say that 
take another look at your record, playing 1 map once doesn't mean you are flexible, you still have 70% of your matches on 3 maps, 2 of which are your own, not that they're any better, but you're loyal to your work.
calling me a rusher and ... comparing me to Andi and Motor (dunno who they are but as i understand they were pretty good, so i don't feel worthy of that comparison) just goes to strengthen my first idea ... get to know some facts before yapping continuously.
can't you see nobody is on your side ? not even the h3 tossers (and i love them for that ), then you must realise there must be something wrong with you, not other 50,100 people.
Maybe you should try Age of Wonders ? looks pretty nice, i tried it for 2 days now (campaigns for the moment) but it's nowhere near heroes4, not even heroes3 for that matter, hmmm nah, too complicated too, maybe ... pac-man will have not so many bugs, maybe you could play that.
you may be a veteran from toh's birth and have done many things for it, but still, i think it's time to let that excuse go, that doesn't give you the right to call anyone an a$$hole for trying to make you understand the game that you're playing.
"i am gonna leave, no Jinxer, you can all play the dead game now that i am gone" --- that sounded so much worse than what Azure would say it. H3 is dead now that you left, H4 will be the same ... i don't think there's a live game for you out there ...
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csarmi
Supreme Hero
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posted November 07, 2003 11:33 PM |
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Actually it's not that easy. BTW, if you cannot stop a barb rush week 2 day 7, you do something wrong.
the problem is, even if you "stop the barb rush" when the barb attacks you, all you're doing is forcing him to retreat. in doing that you've no doubt lost a good deal of troops, while he'll still have tons of troops (maybe not bought yet, but he can buy them) so even if you stop the rush the first time, you're in a hole, and he has lost nothing.
Yeah I know, I used to do it with barb too. But still, you probably don't lose creatures at all (not using them) or only level 1-2's, maybe 3's. Not so sure he can retreat in time either, etcetera. Nevertheless, it is a risky strategy and still I find it fun both doing it and defending against it. 
Jinxer - ok, I1ll do so once I have the time. What alignments should we be? Or that does not matter?
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balcough_dra...
Supreme Hero
unlucky? i want to pump you up
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posted November 07, 2003 11:36 PM |
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lol your funny guy
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whos your daddy and what does he do?
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Blue_Camel
Famous Hero
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posted November 08, 2003 12:17 AM |
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umm explain to me how you dont lose troops? if barb is L17, he will have GM mag resistance. how will you touch him with your heroes ? you hafto use troops to kill him. even if you have barb of your own to "touch" his barb with, your barb won't be nearly same level, prolly only 9 or 10 since on most maps going through the middle areas gives you lots of exp. also, by week 2 day 7 you can't have very many troops. last time i checked, 3-5 angels + L3s or 2-3 black dragons + L3s will hardly scratch L17 barb, especially if he has artys.
the best way for mapmakers to make rush weaker is to place most of the exp and goodies on the opposite side than the side your opponent is on. that means to get exp and goodies you hafto go AWAY from your opponent.
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Blue_Camel
Famous Hero
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posted November 08, 2003 12:20 AM |
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also jinxer, the fact that toh has 10,000 members is not a good one to cite. just go down the list, you'll find that about 65-70% of players have 0 games played and 75-80% (if not more) of players have 1-5 games played.
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balcough_dra...
Supreme Hero
unlucky? i want to pump you up
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posted November 08, 2003 12:29 AM |
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yea you lose to level 17 barb on week 2 day 7
not lose a few troops
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Jinxer
Legendary Hero
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posted November 08, 2003 01:12 AM |
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Valky we could go around and round. You just did the exact same thing you accused me of.
It is becoming painfuly obvious that my frustration with this game is not mainly with the game itself it is with people like you Valky. Almost every serious post I have ever made, even before this latest rant. You insisted on flaming or bashing me in some form. Please tell me how that is not being an A$$hole. You claim it is good fun and joking but , over and over and over, it becomes more of stalking then joking.
The same thing happened this time. I made a SERIOUS suggestion post about would be nice to have a RMG made from the new MOD team, and you burst on to the scene, claiming Jinxer can only play 2 maps so give it up. Tell me what that has to do with anything????? Why would you feel the need to even say that? Joking? Give me a break you do it to purposely try and discredit me publiclly. All you woulda had to say was you disagreed because .....etc.
Upon further reflection I think my comments and opinions about H4 were spouted out of frustration from players like Valky and playing styles like TC_Fear.
Balcough is right I should just play Zud and Targan all the time and keep my opinions to myself. But its a shame that I cannot post my opinions like everyone else on this board with out Someone like Valky instantly bashing my posts no matter what they are about.
I still think the same maps and playing styles are getting old, but I guess I can only hope for some map makers to get creative and make newer different styles. And hope H5 comes sooner than later. But I think the thing I miss the most is the way the TOH H3 Community was. It was more like a family. Well except for Andi and Motor. I guess there always has to be one of them in every crowd.
Just for the record, I am gonna squash my opinions because Zud and Valky dont like them. Kinda sounds like what Valky accused me of. hmmm. Anyways, carry on in your normal happy stagnant way and I will try and conform to your ways and be back and play soon.
And you are right Valky, noone does show any appreciation for any work I have ever done for TOH they never have. So no sense in me spending hours on Monday night to do the map statistic updates.
Zud and Targan see ya soon back playing. That is if I ever get DSL working properly,
Jinxer
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valkyrica
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posted November 08, 2003 03:08 AM |
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But I think the thing I miss the most is the way the TOH H3 Community was. It was more like a family. Well except for Andi and Motor. I guess there always has to be one of them in every crowd.
talk for yourself ... i feel like the few that we are, we consider ourselves a family, if you don't fit in or don't want to fit in, that doesn't mean that we're not like that too !
and about bashing, it wasn't anything personal, but every "serious" post you made was in a spirit of a joke, i believe, you couldn't have been serious about the things you have said.
as for randoms, they won't work for h4, maybe only terrain & trees kinda rmg, but other than that it won't work, like it won't for any other number of games . Like warcraft, h4 is a MAP game, not anything else, and mapmakers can make some very evolved pseudo-random ones if they put their mind to it, as unknown lands has been here since multiplayer release.
And ... don't flatter yourself too much, Jinx, you're not in the center of my attention, i don't do things according to what you do.
P.S. : were you a "Theory of conspiracy" fan ?
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Jinxer
Legendary Hero
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posted November 08, 2003 06:25 AM |
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Edited By: Jinxer on 8 Nov 2003
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Well then Blue Camel lets start seeing some Large Pseudo Random Maps then!!!!
I can bearly do the scripts or I would make some.
Jinxer
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csarmi
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posted November 08, 2003 08:45 AM |
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Edited By: csarmi on 8 Nov 2003
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We are talking about stopping a lone barbar without troops, a few spells?
I've just killed one with 5 heroes, 2 stacks of level ones. Archer, Demonologist, Paladin, General, Prophet.
Actually I had only crappy spells and no dispel spell, though I placed order magic on two heroes or so.
He had no dispel, but some potions.
He did not have artifacts, but that wouldn't matter a lot.
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slugger
Hired Hero
Viking from the north
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posted November 08, 2003 11:17 AM |
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we're not talking some potions we're talking hundreds
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Thunder
Responsible
Famous Hero
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posted November 08, 2003 11:17 AM |
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Well then Blue Camel lets start seeing some Large Pseudo Random Maps then!!!!
I can bearly do the scripts or I would make some.
Jinxer
How about an XL one? Only over 300 kb file size (and in the makes still, final propably is half a megabyte in size). But I'll see if the save game file size can be reduced by few bombs.
As for the Barbarian rush, I say the same thing, try Spiritmongers in Champion (if you want to play it duel, try either Valley of Spiritless or Spirit Islands). Map may seem complex, but it isn't really that hard to learn, at least if you refer to the readme.
Blue Camel, check your hotmail.
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csarmi
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posted November 08, 2003 11:33 AM |
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we're not talking some potions we're talking hundreds
It does not matter how many potions you have.
You'll may get use of the second or the third, but the less won't come into play.
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Jinxer
Legendary Hero
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posted November 08, 2003 02:04 PM |
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Csarmi -- Try this. ON the map UTB. Play the map until week 2 day 7. And then see what your best army and artifacts and spells etc are. Then edit that same army in a new game and add a Level 17 Barb with GM Melee GM Archery GM Combat GM Magic Resistance. And 20 Immortality potions for the Barb.
Let me know if you beat him so easily. And dont forget when the Barb has like 10 hit points left and close to losing, retreat the barb and run the barb straight back to you. And refight. IF the Barb dont kill you the first time. He will finish you off the 2nd.
@ Thunder. I dont mind an XL. Infact I think it is great idea. As long as it is 1vs1 if you pack it with any computer players I wouldnt play it.
Also 98% of the people who claim to beable and willing to play all different kinds of maps, will refuse to play XL, because the chances of rushing drop dramatically.
Jinxer
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Sir_Stiven
Honorable
Legendary Hero
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posted November 08, 2003 03:12 PM |
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also jinxer, the fact that toh has 10,000 members is not a good one to cite. just go down the list, you'll find that about 65-70% of players have 0 games played and 75-80% (if not more) of players have 1-5 games played.
cool, so basically heroes IV TOH consists of 2000-3000 players and then their 2nd-3rd handles which they have been to afraid to use after azure case
As for the rest, you h4 tossers are getting predictable. Dont start arguing whinxers whining, thats a game never to be won anyway... toss him instead 
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csarmi
Supreme Hero
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posted November 08, 2003 05:34 PM |
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Edited By: csarmi on 8 Nov 2003
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I'll try it. What spells and artifacts should I give the barbarian? I am asking it cause it is very important. Especially the spell part.
XL maps - I think the reason that people won't play it cause it takes 3 days to play, and interaction is very minimal, what's multi in that?
Players - well I think that 98% is below 5 games.
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Thunder
Responsible
Famous Hero
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posted November 08, 2003 06:03 PM |
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This is something I wrote over a year ago.
Map Editor: Tips and Hints
All my maps with more than two players; Duel Arena, Mud Is Browner On The Other Side, X Never Marks The Spot, Beyond The Bastards' Reach and Spiritmongers, have the Terminate AI function. How it works? Pretty simple, player just answers to the question at the beginning of the map and the computer players are removed from the game.
So the XL map I was talking about does have the option to have 2-6 players.
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Blue_Camel
Famous Hero
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posted November 08, 2003 08:35 PM |
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csarmi - the L17 barb discussion is over ))
better to talk about pseudo/random stuff
thunder - is that 300k monster done yet?
valky - try one hot minute if you will.. you haven't played that map yet that 1.0 game you played w/camoes didnt count - that snow was a beta, and had a big, bad bug as you know.
1.2 is good for sure, great maybe? i'll let you decide you have my guarantee, which is, of course, priceless 
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the_teacher
Supreme Hero
Talk to the hand!
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posted November 08, 2003 11:32 PM |
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csarmi - the L17 barb discussion is over ))
better to talk about pseudo/random stuff
thunder - is that 300k monster done yet?
valky - try one hot minute if you will.. you haven't played that map yet that 1.0 game you played w/camoes didnt count - that snow was a beta, and had a big, bad bug as you know.
1.2 is good for sure, great maybe? i'll let you decide you have my guarantee, which is, of course, priceless
pretty pretty please, i want someone to play again UTB, i hardly wait to see the metamorphosis from 1 to 2 in the map version number, and good luck with "one hot minute" seems it will catch up with the older UTB
have a nice day
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Blue_Camel
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posted November 09, 2003 12:11 AM |
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pretty pretty please, i want someone to play again UTB, i hardly wait to see the metamorphosis from 1 to 2 in the map version number, and good luck with "one hot minute" seems it will catch up with the older UTB
silly teacher, you dont know what you say utb only had 9 updates because i listen to the players. there were only 3 updates for utb that were actually bugs. the rest were "balance" patches that i didnt really HAVE to do, but i thought it would be best. for instance, in circle, you can steal your opponent's boat. so players now play with the rule "no stealin boats". but if the mapmaker of circle was me, i wouldve made an update so that you can't steal your opponent's boat. that is how utb got to 1.9.
not to mention, maps like circle, etc. aren't nearly as complicated as utb, so i think i should have a little leeway.
but anyway, enough excuses, i will just say that one_hot_minute is a good map, and you should play it. i sayin that not cuz i'm a braggart (although that is quite possible ) but because i'm sure it's good also, it has no bugs.. if there will be any more patches to it, it will be to change slightly how the map plays.
have a nice day
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