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Jinxer
Legendary Hero
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posted October 10, 2003 05:07 PM |
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See the point is I understand what they are saying, but they dont understand what I am saying.
THey are saying that it is easier to have 5 heroes get expert Death skill as a 3rd set of trash skills after there hero is GM in there main skills then it is to get CK order on multipule heroes as a 3rd trash set of skills. SO yes I understand that... BUT
I am saying that no matter what happens in the first 7 weeks of game and no matter what heroes anyone has etc, that when the final battle comes if 1 player has Steal All Enchantment and the other player has NO remove all spells, then it is to un balanced.
If you have 2 Battle Mages( which is quite common) casting Steal All enchantment, and you have to waste 1 turn from each of your heroes to cast dispel or cancel then you will not beable to keep up.
SO how about this for a solution.. Put a Mass Cancel scroll on the map somewhere that you gotta do a quest or fight heavily for. That way only 1 Hero can have that scroll and not 5 heroes. That way atleast you have some chance to be even with your opponent.
Make sense?
Jinxer
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Blue_Camel
Famous Hero
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posted October 10, 2003 05:49 PM |
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no
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Laelth
Famous Hero
Laelth rhymes with stealth.
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posted October 11, 2003 02:08 PM |
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Jinx, that does make sense. I am in the habit of eliminating "Mass Cancel" from my newer maps, simply because I think that's too powerful for a lvl. 3 spell. It is completely unavailable on IP. Even the "Master's Spellbook" (in which the spell appears) has been removed. However, I can also see how that gives an advantage to players who develop an order mage. "Steal all Enchantments" could be a game winner if one side had it and the other did not. But if I were fighting an opponent with "Steal All," I'd put all my energy into killing that one hero (or possibly two) before I did anything else. Having to do that would be a burden, yes, but it would not be extreme, would it?
I see several possible solutions, here.
1. Eliminate some lvl. 5 libraries to cut down access to powerful spells not in the player's home alignmant.
2. Eliminate "steal all" completely.
3. Give "steal all" or "mass cancel" to everyone in a quest, and jinx suggests.
Comments?
-Laelth
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the_teacher
Supreme Hero
Talk to the hand!
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posted October 11, 2003 04:22 PM |
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...and that leads you to decision to make a new map 
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gustn
Hired Hero
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posted October 11, 2003 06:25 PM |
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What is the problem with steal all? It cant steal enchantments that you already have, so if you cast it in beginning of battle, you'll steal only few immos, and later the battle mage will be dead.
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Arangar
Famous Hero
Weak ranger - lost viking
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posted October 11, 2003 06:26 PM |
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Steal all does remove all immos/buffs from opponent however..
Arangar
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Arangar
Norwegian viking
ranger of the north
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gustn
Hired Hero
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posted October 11, 2003 07:11 PM |
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If opponent has 5 heroes with immos, and you too, you will steal only 2 immos, that will go for your 2 creatures, because other stacks already have the same enchantment.
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chosen0ne
Hired Hero
Nightmare Beyond Comprehension
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posted October 11, 2003 07:21 PM |
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sweat map making anymore?
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Arangar
Famous Hero
Weak ranger - lost viking
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posted October 11, 2003 07:36 PM |
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Yes you will get only 2 immos, but ALL opponents immos will be removed + other buffs, no matter what. Tested
Ask valky
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Arangar
Norwegian viking
ranger of the north
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gustn
Hired Hero
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posted October 11, 2003 07:38 PM |
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What I said was tested too, lol. But some time ago, maybe was in old version, 2.2. I'll try again.
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Jinxer
Legendary Hero
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posted October 13, 2003 01:15 AM |
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Laelth -- I would just put a " Mass Cancelation scroll" on both sides. Either with heavy guards or make it a quest. I think Quest would be more interesting.
Jinxer
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Blue_Camel
Famous Hero
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posted October 13, 2003 06:01 AM |
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Quote:
1. Eliminate some lvl. 5 libraries to cut down access to powerful spells not in the player's home alignmant.
eh.. cant do that
your options are
a) disable libraries in towns.
b) disable L5 guild in towns.
the map editor does not let you disable just level 5 in libraries.
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insatiable
Supreme Hero
Ultimate N00bidity
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posted October 13, 2003 03:50 PM |
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you know
this whole 'lets sove problems' attitude its caused by very long and rich maps!
if you put ALL arties and ALL spells in a map..ofcourse you ll have a problem!
..cause game will be patternized to some winning formulas.
like IP map.. if you put too many fixed things in a map, you ll get a fixed gameplay
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Blue_Camel
Famous Hero
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posted October 13, 2003 04:09 PM |
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sing hallelujah!
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the_teacher
Supreme Hero
Talk to the hand!
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posted October 13, 2003 05:29 PM |
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sing hallelujah!
final ? YES ! definetely ,cannot be 1.91, but is there someone who thought about starting with 2.x a new saga?
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insatiable
Supreme Hero
Ultimate N00bidity
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posted October 13, 2003 06:28 PM |
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what 2.x
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the_teacher
Supreme Hero
Talk to the hand!
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posted October 13, 2003 06:38 PM |
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what 2.x
UTB 2.x of course , you dummy
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Tc_Fear
Famous Hero
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posted October 14, 2003 08:53 AM |
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if u all mumbling about ip ,then friendly offer no caancel ,dissspel.
tactic would livelonger.more interesting.
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Tc_Fear
Famous Hero
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posted October 14, 2003 09:24 AM |
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Iguess urnt
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