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Nessus
Tavern Dweller
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posted November 12, 2003 05:11 PM |
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Happy Family
Hi,
These posts are all starting to go to the same place "The end of HOMM3" As we all know H4 Sucks, and Sucks badly so none of us want to go over there. What are we to do?
Well personally WW is where I play most of my games, until Clans came along and to be honest thats what I see getting played the most (WW). Granted, I have no access to any of the Databases or the logs so I can only go by what I see in the zone. What say we give Ves back his TOH and all become one tournament. Knight_Xavier, Knights_Lady and of course AzureMajesty have done a great job and on this side, Ravyn has also done a great job u 2 Kitten  . I am positive WW would welcome Ravyn. I do realize Kitten may be a little hard to work with but I'm sure there would be a place for her. Bjorn did a good job with WON as well but lets face it its just another tourney. If we have 50 players that JUST play TOH and 50 players that JUST play WW then those 100 players will never play one another. The whole point is to play HOMM3. Way back when, there was ONLY TOH and yes you guys are correct there were alot of players but it was either TOH or nothing. What I suggest is making it one tournament again. Drop TOH/MAH and WW and create a new name with all parties involved. This is again a suggestion, but I would guess, more new players would be less confused and the updates would be done sooner and people would be happier.
This will probably never happen but I thought it should be at least mentioned.
Toss away Sir StEven ( but remember if you are the only player left who would you have to toss to? )
Nessus AKA (Dragonh8er)
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madmartigan
Bad-mannered
Famous Hero
who will never walk alone
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posted November 12, 2003 05:22 PM |
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With all due respect I wish all peeps were not so butt headed, such a thing MIGHT have happened. But it cannot :/
Why?
1- All those who play only and only ToH (they dont exceed 10 - anymore) think that the point system of WW (giving pts to the losers) sux. Tbats why they stick up with only ToH. Because they think that ToH ranking system shows the real good - which I agree too.
2- All those who play only and only WW (they dont exceed 10 either) think that the ranking system of ToH (taking away your precious pts when you lose) sux. Thats why they stick up with only WW. Because they want to advance in ranks even though they lose more than they win.
This, of course, does not mean that I say "WW and ToH must stay separate". On the contrary I think combining the players of both tournies seems the only way out of "3 players in zone" (without kitten and her childish babbling, of course )
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Nessus
Tavern Dweller
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posted November 12, 2003 05:29 PM |
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When I saw that u were on Mad, I knew you would be the first reply. When combining the tournies the point system would be worked out different and also more sub tournies would have different point systems as well. As far as butt headed, You agreed with what I said so I assume that makes you a butt head also...welcome to the club Mr President. 
Nessus
AKA Dragonh8er
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madmartigan
Bad-mannered
Famous Hero
who will never walk alone
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posted November 12, 2003 05:36 PM |
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You agreed with what I said so I assume that makes you a butt head also...welcome to the club Mr President.
Actually, you are the one who has welcome to the club
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hamsi128
Promising
Supreme Hero
tosser tavern owner
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posted November 12, 2003 06:07 PM |
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vesuvius
Hero of Order
Honor Above all Else
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posted November 12, 2003 07:46 PM |
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You want the real solution? A successful Homm5. No matter what, even if there was one tourney for homm3, bit by bit the membership will die. What do you think it will be like in 2 years?
For those who are still in this community actively playing, its more for the friendships, and community they have here that makes them stick around, not really for the game itself (my opinion).
I would welcome a 'joining', but I dont see how that is done....
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Nebuka
Promising
Supreme Hero
Save me Jebus!
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posted November 12, 2003 07:57 PM |
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For those who are still in this community actively playing, its more for the friendships, and community they have here that makes them stick around, not really for the game itself (my opinion).
Well, I agree to that.
Nice to see familiar faces every time I get in zone.
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wanderer
Known Hero
Mercenary on Azure's Kingdom
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posted November 12, 2003 09:03 PM |
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Very true words there martigan!
that is indeed the reality
and Ves, don't be that sure it will die... people still love it, if you would come on the zone, and look , there are 70% that play as you well said : for friendship, good of community etc, BUT and I stress but, I see every day new players comming , and that's quite GREAT!. and one more
IMO, heroes 3 will die ONLY and ONLY if heroes5 will be what we all expect ( a great combination of heroes3 + heroes4)
and yea I guess joining ww/won and toh togheter would be great , but will also need some thinking on who to be on charge, imo would be great to have 1 of the leaders of each tournament, would also add new ideas which can make it better, at the end , it would be nice to have 1 big tournament with it's subtournaments imo.
and remeber : homm3 wont die if homm5 wont be great.
wan
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Sir_Stiven
Honorable
Legendary Hero
banned
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posted November 12, 2003 09:46 PM |
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Im afraid only 18 ppl in zone today says otherwise wan.
Not to critize here again now.. but i just couldnt help thinking this when i saw that zone were just down to 18 players... what went wrong?
Obviously something is missing now. And i believe it to be the true spirit of this game, the real will to keep taking it forward. Say what you want about motorschaaf, but he had that will. And it spread to many others, and before you knew it zone had 100 players again.
That will is what we need here, another player(s) to keep developing this tournament.
So while talking about extra voulenteers...
I would recommend some kind of a "keep TOH alive" group as voulenteers in TOH. With the sole purpose of trying to come up with new ideas or modify old ones. To prove that progress always could be done, just some positive views and zone could turn back up in numbers again.
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Aculias
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
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posted November 12, 2003 11:39 PM |
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Motor is just a little part of it but problem is new tournies can bring interested player for a limited time like how Motor brought all those players over 100 but it didnt last long.
Theres many reasons why theres less players.
Main reason is you all lost the will to play because some your friends are gone or one turns & away then a whole group does etc.
The games really old 5 yrs almost but it lasted a long time.
The games a big success.
Also when heroes 4 came out & disapointed many players. It made a big crack right in the middle where half our players switched sides & now theres competition which game is better.
One the big reasons is because you players are big headed & expect way too much in your prejudice precious tournies.
I find it funny how you gave Ves alot of crap in his toh when he did heroes 3 & now you want him back.
You guys need to learn to apreciate a little more but not easy being on the net.
Since you guys can care less if a family member dies or someones in the hospital or probally even if a player dies thierselves.
As long as you guys get your little unimportant updats on time we can all die as far as your guys concerned.
It also proves you dont love the game either,other wise you just be playing & realise it will be updated in time & yes I do admit there were some mistakes & some thangs got put back.
Heh learn to respect others.
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Midnight
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted November 13, 2003 03:30 AM |
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a perspective from someone who has just wandered off from heroes...
Getting into Age of Wonders now an RMG is available. A lot more positive energy in chat threads with a new expansion pack (Shadow Magic), but ladder not as fancy as toh. I didnt get into H4, had enuf of H3, and couldnt wait till H5. Exit has nuthin to do with any complaining, quitters or other conspiracy theories. I think Ves' comment is pretty accurate.
Oh yeah, nice revisionist history saying motor got 100 ppl into zone lol. There was a positive effect but not as dramatic as that 
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Blu
Hired Hero
The Ultimate Party-Pooper
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posted November 13, 2003 03:46 AM |
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I must be the only one in exsistance that doesn't think HoMM4 Sucks...
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coaie
Known Hero
Dirty MoFo
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posted November 13, 2003 08:07 AM |
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Edited By: coaie on 13 Nov 2003
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With all due respect I wish all peeps were not so butt headed, such a thing MIGHT have happened. But it cannot :/
Why?
1- All those who play only and only ToH (they dont exceed 10 - anymore) think that the point system of WW (giving pts to the losers) sux. Tbats why they stick up with only ToH. Because they think that ToH ranking system shows the real good - which I agree too.
2- All those who play only and only WW (they dont exceed 10 either) think that the ranking system of ToH (taking away your precious pts when you lose) sux. Thats why they stick up with only WW. Because they want to advance in ranks even though they lose more than they win.
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I would welcome a 'joining', but I dont see how that is done....
If they can make one tournament which combines all the point systems even hl in a new formula.
And if that tournament would have all the soubtourneys ppl like : clans, tribes,conquerors,maybe 4 towers it would be so cool.
Coaie a.k.a Automation Boy
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Hexa
Responsible
Legendary Hero
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posted November 13, 2003 10:40 AM |
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We all know Homm3 is dying. I has been slowly dying for the last few years and this proces won't stop.
The few new players that come to the zone don;t stay long most of the time.
Let's just enjoy what we have now and see more and more homm buddies leave the game (zone).
Lets hope or a great homm5 ... or something similar.
Ok ... off to play some AOW SM now!@
(just got it yesterday)
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Aculias
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
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posted November 13, 2003 10:45 AM |
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This has nothing to do with combining tournies but how many are involved in the zone.
We are losing players rapidly.
% players went to 34 players in the best times to play in the zone.
SOme other reasons I forgot to mention which Midnight mentioned is a good handful of players has gotten into heroes 4.
Also some plainly quit because they are not satisfied about toh/mah until Mandi steps down & someone else takes over.
Sacraficing a game that you love to rid of an admin istrator is bull & pointless because were here to have fun not be political.
To your other question about combining tournies.
Two reasons, first one is none of others business & Second.
Isaac & Tammy worked way to hard to get as far as they could in thier tournament to start from the bottom to the top of all tournies for a good while.
They accomplished alot.
Giving up thier tourney or combining it would give away all the hard work they worked for & they are really organinzed how thier tourney is run.
Only time will tell but this game is getting played out for me.
I like to play in both tournies,in Mah because of the competition & trying to win my games no matter how many times I gotten screwed over & over.
Twice this season as well.
I like to play in W&W cause the tournies are fun based layed back games where you can play any player you want.
You dont have to worry about stingy players refusing to play because they may lose 100 points etc.
Lets see what happens & start apreciating playying a game for free & all the hard work all volunteers & administrators do for us at a free cost to the players & them.
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haile73
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted November 13, 2003 11:47 AM |
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combining tourneys doesn't make sense.
ToH ladder is competitive, but there is no competition out there anymore.
so WW is the way to go for the occasional friendly game. for those who desperately NEED a league to have fun, lol
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Running may not add years to your life, but it will add life to your years
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hamsi128
Promising
Supreme Hero
tosser tavern owner
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posted November 13, 2003 12:48 PM |
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lets play h3 and wait h5 ... there is nothing we can do... only someone can do something to save h3 toh ... if vesuvius get control back for h3 im %100 sure that toh heroes3 will return to old days... ves knows the truth but ima not sure why he doesnt do something... maybe he doesnt care about or maybe he doesnt want to hurt kitten feelings... now on h4 there is only caesars tournie and h4 players wants new season .. we will play all together heroes5 in one toh.. why we dont join now? why we wait heroes 5 , every days both heroes players lost interests due to inactivity... ves you must get control before its too late... h3 and h4 players together in one toh passing to a great game heroes5.. its what i want to see.. mabe i am dreamer but if that happens we will have great days together
best regards,
dontshootenvoy128
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KittenAngel
Supreme Hero
Lee's wifey
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posted November 14, 2003 06:25 AM |
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You guys want to know my reason on why Ves won't step in and do anything? No Probably but your gonna hear it no ways.
1: Players tend to whine complain and b!tch too much, I mean look at season 5
2: He has no love for heroes 3 anymore, heard that from his own mouth
As for combining tournament, I would have to say this would not work, and if it would it would be EXTREAMLY difficult.
AS for new refreshing tournaments lets her the ideas
As for who's tournament is more popular it don't matter as long as players are happy.
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Sir_Stiven
Honorable
Legendary Hero
banned
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posted November 14, 2003 11:29 AM |
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AS for new refreshing tournaments lets her the ideas
As for who's tournament is more popular it don't matter as long as players are happy.
Well its much easier say if a group were appointed to bring out these new ideas and then they could have "meetings" on MSN messenger or whatever.
And if these keeps up there are soon to be no players left to be happy, when i visited zone last nite there were 25ppl there... never seen so few at evening time for me.
Things must be done if we are to keep this alive for somewhat more time.
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KittenAngel
Supreme Hero
Lee's wifey
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posted November 14, 2003 12:15 PM |
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well ya know all you guys have to say is raven Kitten we wanna help, and these are the ideas we have can we meet at such and such time.
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