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valkyrica
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posted December 23, 2003 01:32 PM |
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me, as the First Spare, think that we cannot beat the russian teams with a spy infiltrated in our ranks ... see above post !
i know the saying fight fire with fire, but fighting russians with russians won't do, we need an international team against Mother Russia 
P.S. : "cheatcheat"
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valkyrica
Supreme Hero
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posted December 23, 2003 05:02 PM |
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Guys be constructive. Suggest modifications, not bash sessions. Or otherwise I will help modify the rules, and participate as the captain of the ToH team (what a disaster that would be hahahaaa)
Ok, Vesuvius.
I rely on your professionalism and objectivity.
Waiting for adjustable on-line round rules.
Please read all posts, I told you that the maps were not fit for competitive online play, some are old, some not fit for 3.3 mod.
I was waiting for feedback !
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Tc_Fear
Famous Hero
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posted December 23, 2003 05:14 PM |
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I know what u tryin to say....
u r an ASSasin 
well good luck !
p.s am not russian .understood?
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balcough_dra...
Supreme Hero
unlucky? i want to pump you up
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posted December 23, 2003 11:15 PM |
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no
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whos your daddy and what does he do?
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valkyrica
Supreme Hero
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posted December 24, 2003 01:11 AM |
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I know what u tryin to say....
u r an ASSasin
well good luck !
p.s am not russian .understood?
did you think about the fact that you may be russian but you don't know it yet ? russian blood flows through those veigns, and the sound it makes goes a little like this : "immoimmoimmo", "movemovemove"
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Hoher
Adventuring Hero
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posted December 24, 2003 08:16 AM |
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Maps
If you want to make "Tournament of the Century" and make it so you an only play with 3.3 mod you have to change the maps you have, i only took a look at circle of life, it's the old version.
So if you need maps we should take our "lead" mapmaker and modify them for tournament play and 3.3 mod(e.g. paladin on circle has basic order, now he needs advanced to cast dispel) and many changes like this.
just some thoughts, we can help, we're a helping community
if you need more detailed explanations please ask.
Please read all posts, I told you that the maps were not fit for competitive online play, some are old, some not fit for 3.3 mod.
I was waiting for feedback !
Feedback to valkyrica.
Who is your "lead" mapmaker? i don't know.
May be you can organize preparation of map list for on-line round? and we consider it.
As I see, you agreed with tree maps in list:
Heart of Winter
Plains of Despair
Circle of Life
We offer some more maps:
Magic Forest, ShowDown, Death Valley, Chameleon, Battle of UnderGround, Superheroes, Deathvalley.
What maps need to include in map list?
About version of HoMM4.
What version you prefer? WoW or 3.3? If one player prefer 3.3 but other prefer WoW - what version will be the main?
Many our player prefer WoW, what about ToH'ers?
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Hoher
Adventuring Hero
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posted December 24, 2003 09:10 AM |
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Merry Christmas!
Dear colleagues!
Allow me to congratulate your community with the Christmas day on behalf of the HeroesLeague, organizing committee of the "Tournament of the Century" and myself. We wish you Megadragon's health, longevity of Archers and Peasants (as they inhabit all four parts of the Heroes), Satir's moral and Leprechaun’s luck.
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the_teacher
Supreme Hero
Talk to the hand!
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posted December 24, 2003 12:12 PM |
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Maps
If you want to make "Tournament of the Century" and make it so you an only play with 3.3 mod you have to change the maps you have, i only took a look at circle of life, it's the old version.
So if you need maps we should take our "lead" mapmaker and modify them for tournament play and 3.3 mod(e.g. paladin on circle has basic order, now he needs advanced to cast dispel) and many changes like this.
just some thoughts, we can help, we're a helping community
if you need more detailed explanations please ask.
Please read all posts, I told you that the maps were not fit for competitive online play, some are old, some not fit for 3.3 mod.
I was waiting for feedback !
Feedback to valkyrica.
Who is your "lead" mapmaker? i don't know.
May be you can organize preparation of map list for on-line round? and we consider it.
As I see, you agreed with tree maps in list:
Heart of Winter
Plains of Despair
Circle of Life
We offer some more maps:
Magic Forest, ShowDown, Death Valley, Chameleon, Battle of UnderGround, Superheroes, Deathvalley.
What maps need to include in map list?
About version of HoMM4.
What version you prefer? WoW or 3.3? If one player prefer 3.3 but other prefer WoW - what version will be the main?
Many our player prefer WoW, what about ToH'ers?
we can help , yes.
there was not about the maps, but the way they must be analyzed in order to work as they were designed to. could be any map, you are the leader of this tournament, you may propose the maps, we can take a look and adjust them , adding the neccesary modifications to work for mod 3.3.
In my opinion ,WOW WITH MOD 3.3 is the best option, sometimes is very important to take advantage of the new creatures, it will add a diversity which always is welcome in a game.
what's too standard can turn into a boring thing.
i have some particular versions of all the maps above , tuned during a large number of games for optimal balance.
punctually,
magic forest and chameleon are 90% based on the luck of alignment got, so it wouldnt be too relevant.
superheroes ... is a algorithm that takes away the idea of heroes might and magic
showdown and death valley could be very interesting with some major modifications.
circle , plains and heart work fine with some adjustments , too . actually, from your list of maps, circle is the best choice, the most balanced
have a nice day
P.S. valkyrica would say the same things maybe more, but concerning jinxer , of ourse
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Tc_Fear
Famous Hero
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posted December 24, 2003 12:23 PM |
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superheroes ... is a algorithm that takes away the idea of heroes might and magic
showdown and death valley could be very interesting with some major modifications
u contradict yourself...
superheroes stile is same as deathvalley or showdown.
p.s balancedsuperheroes is evenmore interesting those 2
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the_teacher
Supreme Hero
Talk to the hand!
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posted December 24, 2003 01:29 PM |
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superheroes ... is a algorithm that takes away the idea of heroes might and magic
showdown and death valley could be very interesting with some major modifications
u contradict yourself...
superheroes stile is same as deathvalley or showdown.
p.s balancedsuperheroes is evenmore interesting those 2
if you would have be read all the words, you perhaps should delete your post. besides , you don't "even" know which are the modifications i'm talking about :/
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Jinxer
Legendary Hero
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posted December 24, 2003 03:19 PM |
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Wow a " Circle for Life TOurnament"
Sounds like a tourny MotorSchaaf in H3 wanted to do called Map Masters. IN that tourny it had nothing to do with over all ability and talent in the game of heroes, it ONLY had to do with peoples ability to master, memorize, manipulate, and exploit a map. Once you were able to find all the little hidden bugs and shortcuts, then you excelled on the map.
So sounds like this is basically a Heroes 4 Map Masters tourny of the centry.
But what does Jinxer know. If it was me, I woulda employed a couple talented map makers like Blue Camel who can produce quality maps in a week, to make about 6 new never before seen maps and then done a tourny. The best players would beable to adapt and play the blind maps. As it is you are doing the " Check mate in 2 moves tourny"
Have fun lol
Merry Christmas!
Jinxer
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balcough_dra...
Supreme Hero
unlucky? i want to pump you up
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posted December 24, 2003 07:24 PM |
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who came up with this map list?
these are like all rush and barby maps
put like deep kick , longest journey , powerspot , and some other new ones
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Leit
Tavern Dweller
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posted December 24, 2003 08:15 PM |
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The organizers of the "Tournament of the Century" from "Heroic Corner" wish to your company a Merry Christmass and feats of arms in heroic deeds.
Moderator of "Heroic Corner"
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Aculias
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
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posted December 24, 2003 10:49 PM |
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Serious Jinxer,the reason it is called map MASTERS is so all players can play & see whos the master of the map.
It also had random templates also so your definition of Motors map masters is false in a small way.
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Jinxer
Legendary Hero
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posted December 25, 2003 02:12 AM |
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who came up with this map list?
these are like all rush and barby maps
put like deep kick , longest journey , powerspot , and some other new ones
Balcough has the BEST post here! This is the ultimate question. The very first posts made pointed out that 3 of the maps -- circle - Heart - Plains were the 3 worst maps in the list then later on Hoher says " So you all said those 3 were the best etc" lol looks like someone wasnt paying attention or else just wants to make sure those 3 maps are in tourny.
I rarely agree with Balcough, but have to agree here.
Jinxer
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valkyrica
Supreme Hero
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posted December 25, 2003 03:39 AM |
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i agree too, those 3 maps are not good, only playable one is circle and that doesn't make me want to play it anymore, boredom i guess
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Hoher
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posted December 25, 2003 09:51 AM |
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Balcough has the BEST post here! This is the ultimate question. The very first posts made pointed out that 3 of the maps -- circle - Heart - Plains were the 3 worst maps in the list then later on Hoher says " So you all said those 3 were the best etc" lol looks like someone wasnt paying attention or else just wants to make sure those 3 maps are in tourny.
I rarely agree with Balcough, but have to agree here.
Jinxer
Sorry for my misunderstanding. English is not my native language, and I don't understand some slang. Thaks for corrections.
What maps you prefer? Can everyone write their own list of map?
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the_teacher
Supreme Hero
Talk to the hand!
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posted December 25, 2003 12:49 PM |
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maps for tourney
Circle of life 1.3(modified)
modifications :
- adv order on the paladin guarding the portal
- recommended difficulty settings : expert
Coldhearted
modifications :
- under study
Dog Days :
modifications :
- neutral areas 2 goldmines each
- scroll of dispel added in front of each starting town
- in game rules : no demon fire allowed in players fight
Eldorado
modifications :
- level 4 dwell replaced with 2 x level 3 dwell
- quest modified 4 blackies instead of 3 required in order to pass
- first boat moved in the middle of water (it will be posted soon)
If these walls could talk (modified)
modifications :
- might town removed
- scroll of dispel added in front of each starting town
- shackles placed in a well-guarded garrison (each sides)
Insanity
modifications :
- under study
Lost in space
modifications :
- I'll ask Jinxer to find the appropriate solution and modify the map in order not to waste time waiting for the gates to open, similar to IP , if someone wants to be explore earlier to eliminate restrictions
Plains of despair :
modifications :
- no extra tavern
- scroll of dispel added in front of each starting town
- scripts on guards + the shackles
- might removed or some magic buildings added
- war university moved
Powerspot (insides & bluesides)
modifications :
- displacement for some creatures in order to be the same of both colors (insides) (balance adjustments)
Seems minerals
modifications :
- citadel , caravan , town hall and blacksmith prebuilt
- scroll of dispel added in front of each starting town
Shallow be thy game
modifications :
- scroll of dispel added in front of each starting town
- citadel prebuilt main towns
Showdown
modifications :
- scroll of dispel added in front of each starting town
- no extra tavern
- script on blackies modified
- treasures modified ( gloves for both sides )
- war university added next to each starting town
- modify settings for markers
the Longest journey
modifications :
- shackles of war added somewhere (i'll think of it) in order to eliminate a possible draw (it will be posted soon)
- banned boots of traveller
TRON
modifications :
- under study
Youri's heart of the winter
modifications :
- script on guards changed , added shackles, robe of guardian , ring of greater negation , all arties disappear after defeat
- robe of guadian changed with a random major
- unlink the middle altars
- no extra tavern
- scroll of dispel added in front of each starting town
- one level 3 dwell, one level 4 dwell guarded linked
In my opinion, these are the most competitive maps, pls do not mind if i missed or forgot some other
have a nice day
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Blue_Camel
Famous Hero
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posted December 25, 2003 08:56 PM |
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teach - on any map where there are Hero guards (like Heart of winter, or plains), you MUST make those guards a player. Otherwise the army may flee, and if they flee, then no matter what scripts you have on that army, the player will get the artys they had. It is impossible to make it scripted so that the artys will not be given to the player even if the army flees, if the army is neutral. If the army is a player tho, they cannot flee of course, so this is not a problem. However once you make the army a player, you must either put them in a garrison and say that troops cannot be removed, or you must place them on the map so that they cannot move, but the squares diagonal from them are passable, so that they cannot move (although actually they could move, if the computer knew the army screen trick ) but they can be attacked by the player. in both cases, of course you need to put "take all the artys they got" under the "defeated" tab, and with the 2nd case, you must use bombs on the few impassable squares around the army, so that players may pass through.
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Blue_Camel
Famous Hero
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posted December 25, 2003 08:59 PM |
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btw, i vote to make insanity a main map, and make that dog days horsechit an understudy
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