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mvassilev
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posted September 17, 2006 04:03 AM

Nu, teper' ya znayu nemnozhka ispanskavo, tak shto ya nemnozhka pabrobuyu pisat' pa tamu yazyku.

Ves? Es espanol. Hablo espanol un poco. Por la manera, tengo un cuento divertido a cerca de mi clase de espanol. Un dia, mi profesor tuvo que salir, y la directora tuvo que actuar como un substituto. Cuando ella abrio su boca, dijo "Me llamo es espanol un poco." Sinceramente. Que asco.

I had to use FreeTranslation to help me with that one.

Dies ist eine freie Online-Übersetzung. Kann alle von Ihnen deutsche Sprecher verstehen es? Ich sage voraus, dass es nicht gut ist.
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posted December 12, 2006 08:05 PM

je ne comprends rien!
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posted December 12, 2006 08:45 PM

Hola amigos feliz navidad!!!!!!!!! el foro de la comunidad de heroes es genial!! amo este lugar! larga vida a HC!
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posted December 23, 2006 08:54 AM

×òî-áû ýòî íå çíà÷èëî, ÿ ïîçäðàâëÿþ Âàñ Ñ íîâûì ãîäîì.

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posted December 23, 2006 06:05 PM


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posted December 23, 2006 09:33 PM
Edited by GenieLord at 21:34, 23 Dec 2006.

ðøàä àí îéùäå ôä éöìéç ìäáéï îä ëúåá áäåãòä äæàú.
ùéöåø àéúé ÷ùø.
ååàé, áà ìé ìôâåù éùøàìéí áî÷åí äîåæø äæä.

åäàîú, áðúééí äöìçúé ì÷øåà ëàï ëîä ùåøåú.

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posted December 23, 2006 09:36 PM

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You wrote:
Nye mislya che ima
nesho za kazvane

I read a little russian.

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posted December 23, 2006 09:40 PM

That's no russian, that's probably bulgarian.

Ehai ani besratim haval al hazman, shatiti kol kah harbe etmol sheba li likfoz meazrieli. vema od, ani zarih od lalehet leeize blind date shekavati im ahat shenishmaat hamuda... vekulam iodim ma ze omer, nahon?
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posted December 23, 2006 10:23 PM

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That's no russian, that's probably bulgarian.

Ehai ani besratim haval al hazman, shatiti kol kah harbe etmol sheba li likfoz meazrieli. vema od, ani zarih od lalehet leeize blind date shekavati im ahat shenishmaat hamuda... vekulam iodim ma ze omer, nahon?


Ben adam, yesh rak davar ehad sheata tzarih lizkor be blind date kaze:
"I'm drunk, your ugly - one more beer and I'll sleep with you..."
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posted December 23, 2006 10:41 PM

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That's no russian, that's probably bulgarian.

Ehai ani besratim haval al hazman, shatiti kol kah harbe etmol sheba li likfoz meazrieli. vema od, ani zarih od lalehet leeize blind date shekavati im ahat shenishmaat hamuda... vekulam iodim ma ze omer, nahon?


Ben adam, yesh rak davar ehad sheata tzarih lizkor be blind date kaze:
"I'm drunk, your ugly - one more beer and I'll sleep with you..."


Israelim! Israelim! Israelim!!
Whoo-hoo!!
Al tid'ag, kulam yod'im ma ze omer.
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posted December 23, 2006 10:49 PM

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You wrote:
Nye mislya che ima
nesho za kazvane

I read a little russian.


This is bulgarian

Well russian language derive from bulgarian language. The Bulgarian is the first kyrilic language, created by Saint Cyril and his brother Saint Methodius, and it is the seventh alphabet in the world.    

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posted December 24, 2006 12:06 AM

Now I got from you a history lesson.
But it was nice one...
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posted December 24, 2006 03:44 AM

Haló! Van it valaki? Hahó! Igen?

It is ungarian.
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posted December 24, 2006 03:59 AM
Edited by mvassilev at 09:58, 24 Dec 2006.

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You wrote:
Nye mislya che ima
nesho za kazvane

I read a little russian.


This is bulgarian

Well russian language derive from bulgarian language. The Bulgarian is the first kyrilic language, created by Saint Cyril and his brother Saint Methodius, and it is the seventh alphabet in the world.    


Actually, that's incorrect. The Russian language is derived from Old East Slavic language, which in turn is derived from Proto-Slavic. Bulgarian is derived from South Slavic, which is also derived from Proto-Slavic. Also, Cyril and Methodius did not create Bulgarian. It was already spoken at the time. Cyril and Methodius created the Glagolithic alphabet and the Old Church Slavonic language, which was based on Bulgarian. Later, someone noticed that the Glagolithic alphabet was really hard to write with, so they replaced it with the Cyrillic alphabet, named after St. Cyril.

Na samom dele, eto ne prawilno. Russkij jezyk proizoszol ot Starowostocznoslawjanskogo, kotoryj vo swoju oczered proizoszol ot Pra-Slawjanskogo. Bolgarskij proizoszol ot Ju¿noslawjanskogo, kotoryj to¿e proizoszol ot Pra-Slawjanskogo. Tak ¿e, Kiril i Mefodij ne sozdali Bolgarskij. Kiril i Mefodij zosdali Galgolicu i Starocerkovnoslawjanskij jezyk, kotoyj byl osnowanyj na Bolgarskom. Po¿¿e, kto-to zametil szto bylo oczen trudno pisat Glagolicoj, tak szto on zamenil ego Kirilicej, w czest Kirila.
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posted December 24, 2006 05:12 AM
Edited by VokialBG at 05:23, 24 Dec 2006.

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Actually, that's incorrect. The Russian language is derived from Old East Slavic language, which in turn is derived from Proto-Slavic. Bulgarian is derived from South Slavic, which is also derived from Proto-Slavic. Also, Cyril and Methodius did not create Bulgarian. It was already spoken at the time. Cyril and Methodius created the Glagolithic alphabet and the Old Church Slavonic language, which was based on Bulgarian. Later, someone noticed that the Glagolithic alphabet was really hard to write with, so they replaced it with the Cyrillic alphabet, named after St. Cyril.



Heheheh, you are right for the the Glagolithic alphabet Cyril and Methodius created it and than Saint Clement of Ohrid created the modern look of the bulgarian language (modern for 869), the Old Church Slavonic language is Old Bulgarian, created bu Saint Clement. The bulgarians are not South Slavic, we comе from Old Great Bulgaria (where in now Ukraine) to the place where is now Bulgaria.

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Also, Cyril and Methodius did not create Bulgarian. It was already spoken at the time.



Before Glagolithic alphabet we speak the bulgarian from Old Great Bulgaria , after Saint Clement we speak bulgarian.


Russian language is based on the Old russian language but in 17th century for official language in Russia is chosen the old Clement's bulgarian, ofcorse the language is rewrite...


OK, bulgarian and russian derived from Saint Clement's old language.

I think i'm better than you in bulgarian history

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posted December 24, 2006 10:21 AM

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Actually, that's incorrect. The Russian language is derived from Old East Slavic language, which in turn is derived from Proto-Slavic. Bulgarian is derived from South Slavic, which is also derived from Proto-Slavic. Also, Cyril and Methodius did not create Bulgarian. It was already spoken at the time. Cyril and Methodius created the Glagolithic alphabet and the Old Church Slavonic language, which was based on Bulgarian. Later, someone noticed that the Glagolithic alphabet was really hard to write with, so they replaced it with the Cyrillic alphabet, named after St. Cyril.



Heheheh, you are right for the the Glagolithic alphabet Cyril and Methodius created it and than Saint Clement of Ohrid created the modern look of the bulgarian language (modern for 869), the Old Church Slavonic language is Old Bulgarian, created bu Saint Clement. The bulgarians are not South Slavic, we comå from Old Great Bulgaria (where in now Ukraine) to the place where is now Bulgaria.

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Also, Cyril and Methodius did not create Bulgarian. It was already spoken at the time.



Before Glagolithic alphabet we speak the bulgarian from Old Great Bulgaria , after Saint Clement we speak bulgarian.


Russian language is based on the Old russian language but in 17th century for official language in Russia is chosen the old Clement's bulgarian, ofcorse the language is rewrite...


OK, bulgarian and russian derived from Saint Clement's old language.

I think i'm better than you in bulgarian history


True, the Bulgarians are not Slavs. Bulgarians are more closely related to Turks, and their inital language was related to Turkish. Bulgarians did not come from Ukraine. They came from around the Volga, where they were called Volga Bulgars. They came to where modern Bulgaria, and, by linguistiic contact, adopted a South Slavic language because theiir neighbors in the area spoke Old South Slavic dialects (which evolved into Serbian, Bosnian, Croatian, Slovene, and Macedonian), but influenced by their Bulgar language. The Old Church Slavonic language is Old Bulgarian, and was used in governments and churches throughout the Slavic Orthodox world. When St. Clement came, the Bulgarians already spoke Old Bulgarian, and he created an alphabet for it, the Cyrillic alphabet.

In Russia, in the 17th century, the official government and Church language was the Russian form of Church Slavonic, not Old Church Slavonic. Church Slavonic was the average of Old Church Slavonic and the local vernacular. Thus, there was a Bulgarian Church Slavonic ((OCS + Middle Bulgarian)/2), a Russian Church Slavonic ((OCS + Old Russian)/2), and so on. Modern Russian developed from Old Russian. Later, Russian replaced Russian Church Slavonic as the government's language. Of course, they both used the Cyrillic alphabet.

The Bulgars, and, therefore, Bulgarians are not Slavs, yet the Bulgarians speak a South Slavic language, related to Serbian, Croatian, Bosnian, Slovene, and Macedonian. Also, Bulgarian was influenced strongly by Russian in the 18th century, and, thus, has more Russian loan words than, say, Serbian.

Finally, Old Russian and Old East Slavic are not the same thing. Old Russian came from Old East Slavic. The other descendant of Old East Slavic was Ruthenian, the language of the eastern portion of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. From Ruthenian developed Belarusian and Ukranian. Thus, Russian, Belarusian, and Ukranian are all East Slavic languages.

Looks like I'm a little better at language history than you .
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posted December 24, 2006 07:50 PM
Edited by VokialBG at 19:54, 24 Dec 2006.

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True, the Bulgarians are not Slavs. Bulgarians are more closely related to Turks, and their inital language was related to Turkish. Bulgarians did not come from Ukraine. They came from around the Volga, where they were called Volga Bulgars. They came to where modern Bulgaria, and, by linguistiic contact, adopted a South Slavic language because theiir neighbors in the area spoke Old South Slavic dialects (which evolved into Serbian, Bosnian, Croatian, Slovene, and Macedonian), but influenced by their Bulgar language.



Hmmm, sorry but it is wrong....

Nobody knows exactly from where come the bulgarians, they are not from Ukraine, they come to Ukraine from other lands...

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Bulgarians are more closely related to Turks, and their inital language was related to Turkish.



You want to kill me? Sorry but this is offence for me I'm not Turk the Bulgars are not Turks, there is one thing for all bulgarians, we all hate the the Turks! If you are russian, I think you know why.

The Bulgars (also proto-Bulgarians) were a seminomadic people, originally from Central Asia, who since the 2nd century inhabited the steppe north of Caucasus and the banks of river Itil, now named Volga.

But in the lands, where is now Bulgaria are 3 basic societies:

The Thracians, The South Slavs, and later the proto-Bulgarians, so the old bulgarians are not Slavs, but the modern bulgarians are, the definition for the bulgarian:

The Bulgarians are a South Slavic people generally associated with Bulgaria and the Bulgarian language.
 


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The Old Church Slavonic language is Old Bulgarian, and was used in governments and churches throughout the Slavic Orthodox world. When St. Clement came, the Bulgarians already spoke Old Bulgarian, and he created an alphabet for it, the Cyrillic alphabet.



Half-True before St. Clement we use the Glagolithic (from St. Cyril) but than he create the the Cyrillic alphabet. In the modern bulgarian are only 3 words from the old proto-Bulgarian:

Vuycho-(en: uncle - mother side), Biser (en: pearl), Salza (en: tear)

The modern buldarian is Slavic language.

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Finally, Old Russian and Old East Slavic are not the same thing. Old Russian came from Old East Slavic. The other descendant of Old East Slavic was Ruthenian, the language of the eastern portion of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. From Ruthenian developed Belarusian and Ukranian. Thus, Russian, Belarusian, and Ukranian are all East Slavic languages.



Totaly agree here!

This is hundred years old dispute, let stop with this

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posted December 25, 2006 01:23 AM

I'm sorry if I've offended you. I'm not saying that the Bulgarians are Turks. I'm saying that the old Bulgars were a Turkic people. There are many Turkic peoples besides Turks, such as Turkmen, Uyghur, Kyrgyz, and so on.

You seem to have contradicted yourself several times, though.

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Nobody knows exactly from where come the bulgarians, they are not from Ukraine, they come to Ukraine from other lands...


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The Bulgars (also proto-Bulgarians) were a seminomadic people, originally from Central Asia, who since the 2nd century inhabited the steppe north of Caucasus and the banks of river Itil, now named Volga.


The Bulgars were Central Asian. The origins of all Turkic peoples are in Central Asia. Modern Bulgarians are descended from Bulgars, Thracians, and South Slavs.

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Half-True before St. Clement we use the Glagolithic (from St. Cyril) but than he create the the Cyrillic alphabet.


So, what did I say that was untrue? I said that they already spoke Old Bulgarian, not Bulgar. Of course, they used the Glagolithic alphabet.


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posted December 25, 2006 02:09 AM

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..You want to kill me? Sorry but this is offence for me I'm not Turk the Bulgars are not Turks, there is one thing for all bulgarians, we all hate the the Turks!

And we wonder why there are still wars every day in every corner in this world? Main reason could be such behaviour I think. How can u blame a whole nation for things which happened in the past? You think ALL jews hate ALL germans nowadays for the horrible things Hitler did to them 60 years ago?
You should stop hating poeple u've never met in your life and never have spoken a word to. Maybe then the world would turn into a more peacefull place....
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posted December 25, 2006 02:39 AM

Do you know what mvassilev, maybe we just say one think but I cant understand you and you me

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And we wonder why there are still wars every day in every corner in this world? Main reason could be such behaviour I think. How can u blame a whole nation for things which happened in the past? You think ALL jews hate ALL germans nowadays for the horrible things Hitler did to them 60 years ago?



With all I mean the most of them.......dont know for the jews, maybe the most of them hate the germans...or maybe they hate only Hitler and all nazi guys...

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You should stop hating poeple u've never met in your life and never have spoken a word to. Maybe then the world would turn into a more peacefull place....



Good word! But i've met these people in my life and have spoken a word to.

Let stop now and speak in our languages!

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