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LordPaul
Promising
Famous Hero
Crazy Bat Guy.
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posted July 15, 2001 06:29 AM |
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Improve Creatures
I saw that my Which Creature Should Not Be in HOMM4 thread is back and it gave me an idea. Most of these creatures will be back (um, well, some. damn 4 levels!!!). Instead of just saying let's get rid of them, post how to improve them. I'll give some examples:
Peasents(this will be hard!)
Make peasents like porable money. Every peasent you own give you 1 gold piece a day. So as they get up in numbers you could be getting 300 or so gold a day. Like taxes or something. Then the challange would not be in using them for offense, but keeping them alive as your opponents try to take out your money banks!!
Zombies
Just make them tougher. Dwarves were a good unit because they were slow, but tough. Zombies are barely stronger than skeletons.
Manticores (why aren't they in HOMM4?!)
Instead of that crappy paralysis, give them a 10% chance to kill a stack of creatures under level 4. They would be horde killin' machines!!
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HYDRA
Adventuring Hero
Chaos Hydra
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posted July 15, 2001 12:59 PM |
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Quote:
I saw that my Which Creature Should Not Be in HOMM4 thread is back and it gave me an idea. Most of these creatures will be back (um, well, some. damn 4 levels!!!). Instead of just saying let's get rid of them, post how to improve them. I'll give some examples:
Peasents(this will be hard!)
Make peasents like porable money. Every peasent you own give you 1 gold piece a day. So as they get up in numbers you could be getting 300 or so gold a day. Like taxes or something. Then the challange would not be in using them for offense, but keeping them alive as your opponents try to take out your money banks!!
Zombies
Just make them tougher. Dwarves were a good unit because they were slow, but tough. Zombies are barely stronger than skeletons.
Manticores (why aren't they in HOMM4?!)
Instead of that crappy paralysis, give them a 10% chance to kill a stack of creatures under level 4. They would be horde killin' machines!!
 (Pyre) First of all..... The zombies. are WEAK! No need to change them because in realmovies they are also weak..... Skeletons must be stronger...
Peasants DUMP THEM! A sphinx or succubi would be much cooler!
Manticore... the legend say they kill GOOD dragons (Gold silver forest) with BIG ease.! The evil wizard created them for killing good dragons.. SO they must got the ability of do many damage to EVERY DRAGON! not only the good .. also the bad..The unicorn in legend killed the manticore....
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(Venom)Head of Poison and kindness.
(BLizzard)Head of wisdom and cold.
(Pyre)Head of Rage and Fury!
(Vain)Head of EVIL and Destruction
(Trivia)Head of sex and love
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Gravdragon
Known Hero
Barbarian
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posted July 15, 2001 08:59 PM |
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I dont know much mythology and stuff, but the peasant idea was good. But I say make them little stronger anyway. A creature that does only 50 damage would still kill 50 peasants, that doesnt make sense.
I dont know how strong creatures will be in homm4 (the stats has increased with the double from h2 to h3) But the peasant could have these stats:
Hp: 8
Damage: 1-4
Attack: 5
Defence: 2
speed: 3
Special: Gives 1 gold coin per peasant to owner
A peasant should have quite high attack and hp considering its strenght. He is a farmer right and farmers are strong and big, cause they work on the field and in the barn all day long. Defence is low cause he has no armor or battle skills whatsoever. He should have a cooler looking weapon tough, maybe a woodchopping axe.
Thats all (and please reply kindly and dont get all upset now, there is people who likes the peasant).
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L´ombre fatal - The shadow of death
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Sha_Men
Responsible
Supreme Hero
Jack-Of-No-Trades
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posted July 15, 2001 09:10 PM |
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About peasants..
Not bad idea that gold thing but as mentioned earlier it shouldn't be really good fighting unit.
Some peasants were big and strong, some of them at least,
but we must understand that in the medieval times, because of the lack of food, many didn't become so big and strong.
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Wiseman
Known Hero
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posted July 15, 2001 09:14 PM |
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Yea that is trully a good idea.Rougs and bandits could steal money from peasants.
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ozzyosbourne
Bad-mannered
Famous Hero
Riddler of the Sky
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posted July 15, 2001 09:23 PM |
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true, also, Peasants should be hired to build the buildings in the castle.. like have different kinds of peasants for each castle.. and you should feed and pay them.. but if you don't.. then some will leave or turn against the battle and fight a hero..
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Life is like a carousel. Spinning fast you got to ride them well. The only time you speak is in your dreams.
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LordPaul
Promising
Famous Hero
Crazy Bat Guy.
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posted July 16, 2001 01:27 AM |
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Maybe you could have a training system in the Haven. A peasent could upgrade to pikemen, then upgrade to archer or crusader, and then upgrade to champion, and finally Paladin. Of course, to balance this it would have to be expensive, or take a few days per unit game time. Just a thought....
And Zombies were freaking strong. Have you ever seen "Night of the Living Dead?" They don't stop until they are in little pieces and are as strong as steel! Just keep them slow.
And how would we replace peasents with Sphynxes? That's the kinda talk that made 3do reduce the levels. Not all units can be level 7!
As for mythology... who needs to follow it. All of these creatures were god like, and there were very few of all of them. I never heard of 30 medusas or 45 minotaurs!
How about another improvement:
Hydra -
Make it have about a level 6/5 whatever strength attack. But give it 3 attacks. It has many heads!!!!!!!!! For every so much HP you take (say 100) it looses one of it's attacks!
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ozzyosbourne
Bad-mannered
Famous Hero
Riddler of the Sky
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posted July 16, 2001 01:33 AM |
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Thank You--
True.. i like all what you mentioned there....
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Life is like a carousel. Spinning fast you got to ride them well. The only time you speak is in your dreams.
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HYDRA
Adventuring Hero
Chaos Hydra
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posted July 16, 2001 07:02 PM |
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Maybe you could have a training system in the Haven. A peasent could upgrade to pikemen, then upgrade to archer or crusader, and then upgrade to champion, and finally Paladin. Of course, to balance this it would have to be expensive, or take a few days per unit game time. Just a thought....(no to many HUMANS~!!!!!)
And Zombies were freaking strong. Have you ever seen "Night of the Living Dead?" They don't stop until they are in little pieces and are as strong as steel! Just keep them slow.(Whahahaha Against NORMAL HUMANS YES! But against MYTHOLOGY NO!)
And how would we replace peasents with Sphynxes? That's the kinda talk that made 3do reduce the levels. Not all units can be level 7!( I mean Gnomes... The gnomes are one of my Coolest ideas... They have the power to repair Battle machines in battle!)
As for mythology... who needs to follow it. All of these creatures were god like, and there were very few of all of them. I never heard of 30 medusas or 45 minotaurs!(No but they were cloned ... And i like it!)
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How about another improvement:
Hydra -
Make it have about a level 6/5 whatever strength attack. But give it 3 attacks. It has many heads!!!!!!!!! For every so much HP you take (say 100) it looses one of it's attacks!(Hydra is fine with me...) Hydra is one of my favorites you know! Atleast Chimera and Succubus are Cooler tought!
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(Venom)Head of Poison and kindness.
(BLizzard)Head of wisdom and cold.
(Pyre)Head of Rage and Fury!
(Vain)Head of EVIL and Destruction
(Trivia)Head of sex and love
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