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posted November 29, 2008 04:06 PM |
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Where a blue square is considered "art" ?
Those Microsoft artists are so good, look at that magnificent work of art called the "blue screen of death"  
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posted November 29, 2008 04:34 PM |
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I don't consider abstraction an art myself
Art is art, abstraction is a crappy attempt of people lacking talent to make something that will become famous.
Couldn't agree more
I hate those abstract 'arts', they are just a random bunch of paintings or whatever and they call it 'art'.
btw, it reminds me of:
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posted November 29, 2008 04:42 PM |
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There are certain paintings that are just a few wraps of toilet paper thrown against somehing, but there is abstract art that takes skill AND that can be aesthetically pleasing(okay, this is more surreal than abstract):
and these... things are something for artists. It's made for their sakes, so they could escape all those fiddly rules that was put in art. Anyway, the true artists are those that don't make any money. Just like with sports. The true sportsmen are tose that don't earn any money either. Anyone remember the pencil put through a paper? (the artist said: here! This is you 3d object!):
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posted November 29, 2008 05:29 PM |
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those squares are actually considered art?
But k, we live in a world where Tokio Hotel is considered art, too.. 
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posted November 29, 2008 05:44 PM |
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Art is somewhere inside the imagination, we just are defining it in a way that is wider than Texas.
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posted November 29, 2008 06:02 PM |
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@Dagoth, that first pic is awesome 
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posted November 29, 2008 06:04 PM |
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I know, it's one of the first ones you find if you type 'abstract art' in google search engine. the guy who madethat has one or two who are quite similar.
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posted November 29, 2008 11:09 PM |
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Let's call a necromancer to revive the old cultures.
BTW no need for that,as time flows things change.
Look at the global Economy now.
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posted December 03, 2008 10:25 AM |
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Not really, as Einstein put it nicely, two things are infinite: The universe and human stupidity, although he wasn't sure about the former
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posted December 03, 2008 10:56 AM |
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Well. Art is never art IN ITSELF or AS SUCH - you have to consider the statement behind it. Which means that a piece of art may be considered art in the time it was made - it might be a statement against a dominating style at that point -, but may be considered trash later on.
Abstract art is obviously a dangerous walk on the line between meaningful reduction to basic forms and designs and silly simplification - like Ash's strip shows. 
Anyway, art is something, when it makes you think about it. My first wife used to be a sucker for Modigliani - whom I hated. I used to look at his paintings, saying, look a this neck, look at that arm, they are all too long and completely out of proportion, this is UGLY. But then I realized something: whenever I looked at those paintings I used to lose myself in them, trying to find the flaws in them and what made them so "disproportionate", in short, what EXACTLY was "wrong" with them. In fact, they drew me in.
Which is what art is mostly about, actually.
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posted December 03, 2008 11:36 AM |
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This is directed to all "abstract art sucks" ladies and gentlemen.
In your humble opinion, Picasso, Kandinsky, or Braque for example, had no talent at all? They just tried to splash something that will make them famous? They did it to deceive people to give them cash?
Do enlighten us about what art really is, then.
Picasso could paint the world the way it is, too, which he has proven in his earlier works. However, he chose to create cubism instead. He rejected our reality and substituted his own. That doesn't fall under your definition of an artist?
I suppose you don't count impressionism, expressionism and other late-19th century movements as art either?
Is art really only when a bishop pays you to paint his ceiling?
Do you listen to any music beyond classic?
Why?
It's not music, is it?
It's a crappy attempt of people lacking talent to make something that will become famous.
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posted December 03, 2008 02:42 PM |
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Picasso, Kadinsky, and Braque were artists.
This, on the other hand, is not art. Their art isn't just random shapes and splotches. But much of modern art is. There has to be some thought and some noticeable effort put into a piece of artwork. It is clear that the picture above has neither.
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Do you listen to any music beyond classic?
Why?
Because it's still music, because it's doesn't sound randomly arranged. But some psychedelic "music" with just completely random beats and notes isn't music at all.
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posted December 03, 2008 02:56 PM |
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Do you listen to any music beyond classic?
Why?
It's not music, is it?
It's a crappy attempt of people lacking talent to make something that will become famous.
Haha  if you really ask that I consider 80% of music genres not "music"
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posted December 03, 2008 03:23 PM |
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80% of music
80% of the available music today consists of techno remixes, so I agree, here.
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posted December 03, 2008 03:42 PM |
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Yes, the overwhelming haul of cheesy remixes spoiled the dance music channels so badly I stopped listening to popular music and moved underground.
But once you mentioned it, I feel somewhat obliged to complete the set of GOOD covers of popular songs and air it this year  Let's beat the crap with quality.
Truly saying, unsatisfactory artistic level of so-called club music made me become a DJ some years ago and do quite well in this role.
I'm also an enthusiast of abstract art, precisely the art which does not present anything. I used to collect awesome 3D renders and fractals which are perfectly consistent and balanced, not to mention beautiful although they do not present anything or at least nothing particular.
For that reason I feel justified to call the random set of minimalistic geometrical shapes above utterly worthless. It has no meaning, no aesthetical value, no sense and even does not require any skill to execute. So, whatever your understanding of art is, this object does not fit its definition.
Probably the first guys who painted the white square on black background was a genious, but his followers are honestly suckers.
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posted December 03, 2008 06:35 PM |
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It is art. I agree it's not very compelling, since it's mostly an exercise in composition. Like JJ said, there's a statement behind it, which is a characteristic of every -ism in the early twentieth century. This particular painting depicts reality as completely abstract by reducing it to simple shapes and lines and primary colors. It may be passé today, but a century ago it was groundbreaking.
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posted December 04, 2008 10:20 AM |
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80% of music
80% of the available music today consists of techno remixes, so I agree, here.
The really sad truth............
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posted December 04, 2008 02:26 PM |
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Today it's only a question of how much money you can bleed out of every original trend. Remember punk, for example? The attitude of those punks? Real safety pins stuck through the earlobs, real tattered and ripped Jeans and shirts, real doggie collars and so on.
Didn't take haute couture too long to make pre-fabricated ripped and tattered things to be bought in your favorite boutique. Golden safety pins, fahe dog-collars with silver spikes and so on.
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posted December 04, 2008 05:00 PM |
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People consider Picasso an artist, but I don't like his paintings, idk, they all look stupid to me.
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posted December 04, 2008 05:04 PM |
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Thanks for that information, but what is your point?
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