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Doomforge
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posted December 04, 2008 05:13 PM |
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My point is that Picasso =/= art to me.
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posted December 04, 2008 05:15 PM |
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Bad art is still art lol  (in each's opinion)
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posted December 04, 2008 06:40 PM |
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My point is that Picasso =/= art to me.
Ok, then my point is that everything is =/= art to me - except my own stuff, of course.
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posted December 04, 2008 07:08 PM |
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You know, how about the critics stop finding 'hidden meanings' of a piece of art, and let the author explain those things - if he can't, it's obvious a random attempt without talent and should definitely not be considered art
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posted December 04, 2008 07:16 PM |
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Ash, you are mistaking artists for critics. Critics and interpreters would just LOVE to do what the artists do - but CAN'T. That's why they explain WHAT they would love to do what they can't.
Artists just CREATE something.
I mean, take for example Paul McCartney. He said, he DREAMT Yesterday and woke up with the melody in his head, certain that he'd heard it somewhere the other day... But no, he hadn't, except maybe in his own subconscious.
So why would he have to explain it? If it's art it speaks for itself, doesn't it?
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posted December 04, 2008 10:27 PM |
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You know, how about the critics stop finding 'hidden meanings' of a piece of art, and let the author explain those things - if he can't, it's obvious a random attempt without talent and should definitely not be considered art
THIS. 
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posted December 04, 2008 10:40 PM |
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You know, how about the critics stop finding 'hidden meanings' of a piece of art, and let the author explain those things - if he can't, it's obvious a random attempt without talent and should definitely not be considered art
not really... an artist explaining his work is like a comedian explaining his jokes...
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posted December 04, 2008 10:48 PM |
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Maybe you're right...
but then, if you make a joke which is VERY lame for you and you can't make a funny one (let's say you lack talent), and then surprisingly, some people find it funny  , do you consider yourself talented, or you were just lucky?
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posted December 04, 2008 10:51 PM |
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"Does it mean this, does it mean that, that's all anybody wants to know. **** them, darling. I say what any decent poet would say if you dared ask him to analyse his work: If you see it, dear, then it's there."
-- Freddie Mercury
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posted December 04, 2008 11:10 PM |
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The above post, IMO, ends this discussion.
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posted December 05, 2008 12:59 AM |
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I think that most literary analysis finds things that were never intended to be there.
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posted December 05, 2008 01:19 AM |
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I think that if Justice produced the next Red Hot Chili Peppers album as per the false rumour it would be the greatest creation in human history.
Mona Lisa, eat your heart out.
(a man can dream)
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posted December 05, 2008 03:21 AM |
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I need help, quick question. Is this art?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkrCMI2fXTo
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posted December 05, 2008 03:48 AM |
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if this is art then yes that is art.
Arts are defined by the sense that they use if i believe...
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Sight: Visual art
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posted December 05, 2008 07:25 AM |
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80% of the available music today consists of techno remixes, so I agree, here.
Lol, totally wrong, but whatever.
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posted December 05, 2008 08:18 AM |
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80% of the available music today consists of techno remixes, so I agree, here.
Techno remixes?
Are you kidding?
It's statements like that that make you seem like your itunes is populated entirely by Final Fantasy battle scene orchestras, but having said that I'm afraid that might ring a little too true for some members here.
'Techno' remixes lol.
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posted December 05, 2008 09:00 AM |
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Nobody else sees this as art? Really?
OK, maybe it's from my "square" engineering type mind, but even though this is not what I normally consider to be "true" art, it did have some appeal to it.
At first I wasn't really sure why. Maybe something about the color combinations? The shapes? Does it matter why it had some appeal?
It took maybe 20 seconds to realize what it was. Come on people, you should be able to figure this one out it's easy.
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posted December 05, 2008 09:26 AM |
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'Techno' remixes lol.
It's typical for most of people to call 'techno' everything from among techno, house, tech-house, dance, and by the way trance (!), drum'n'bass (?) or even electro (sic!), sometimes darkwave  . It becomes somewhat confusing and dangerous for all the EDM scene and beyond, of course leads to misunderstanding and conflict involving all the listeners.
It's usually irrelevant which genre or style particular track belongs, as commercial crap will stay commercial crap no matter whether its techno or not and for that reason statement about crappy techno remixes makes a lot of sense. But please get it right.
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posted December 05, 2008 09:32 AM |
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Well, it doesn't appeal, actually.
There's something wrong with the symmetry (take a look at the upper right - there is something "missing") which is either an oversight or planned. If it's an oversight - forget it. If it's planned, it doesn't capture me enough to try and think about a reason.
Secondly, the colours. Red, blue and yellow with black and 2 kinds of grey. Very basic, only primary colours - , but while black and grey as non-colours are included, grey even doubly, white is missing, though. Would that be of significance?
Shapes are simple as well. Now, if it WAS symmetric, which it isn't, it would be something like a svastika construction, which is - then - what makes you want to look at it: trying to envision the whole of the geometrical concept, the system of coloration (if there is any) and the question, why it's not symmetrical and whether that is significant for the statement.
Art?
Sure.
Appealing?
I prefer real mathematics.
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posted December 05, 2008 09:43 AM |
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Culture evolves it never dies.. unless humanity dies.
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