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Thread: got owned :( 9 ( Tried Sanders Folly ) [ This thread is 3 pages long: 1 (2) 3 ]
Thorin
Thorin


Adventuring Hero
posted September 20, 2005 02:57 PM

Sanderfolly

Me play this map too,and its possible to win,with ressurection and other useful spells,like Haste or slow.But you must have Expert Earth or Air Magic,or you can make it with Expert Fire and Water Magic.Aniway,with two of these.If possible with three or even with all.
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Corribus
Corribus

Hero of Order
The Abyss Staring Back at You
posted September 21, 2005 03:57 AM

Hi all -
It has been a while since I updated this map, which I'd like to do.  Suggestions for fixes / rebalancing would be appreciated.

Corribus

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Everard
Everard

Tavern Dweller
posted December 12, 2005 04:13 AM

Yeah, I can't get from the pheonixe's across to the next bit of land :-P Sander doesn't have scouting, and even with the speculum, he doesn't see far enough into the shroud to open up that bit of land. So I'm stuck...
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doomnezeu
doomnezeu


Supreme Hero
Miaumiaumiau
posted March 29, 2006 12:20 AM

Quote:
Hi all -
It has been a while since I updated this map, which I'd like to do.  Suggestions for fixes / rebalancing would be appreciated.

Corribus


Hi mate,

No need to update anything, the setup is ok, even for starters. As for the post below ye, there is a hero ye release from Sagymiris' prison that has scouting. No need to burden yerself with a secondary skill that, most of the time, does not help.

(PS: hello, all )
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Corribus
Corribus

Hero of Order
The Abyss Staring Back at You
posted April 29, 2006 05:20 PM

Quote:
No need to update anything, the setup is ok, even for starters.

Ok - if you say so. I'm always happy to have to do no work.

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Corribus
Corribus

Hero of Order
The Abyss Staring Back at You
posted April 29, 2006 05:25 PM

Quote:
What is Sanders Folly in HoMM?
I just know it from Diablo 2 as a Set for the Necromancer--
pleasy tell me

regards
Daddy

I always wondered about this - my map was released in 2000.  Diablo2 was released in 2000 also.  I actually never played Diablo2 - and so the name of the map was original.  Kind of strange that the same name would appear in Diablo2, don't you think?  Just a coincidence?  hmm..

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speckledjim
speckledjim

Tavern Dweller
posted September 17, 2009 10:21 PM
Edited by speckledjim at 22:21, 17 Sep 2009.

Just finished this scenario. And all I can say is WOW! It's just perfect. I even wanted, no needed to read story. Even if they were up to 20 pages long

Kudos for whoever made the map *thumbs up*
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pei
pei


Famous Hero
Fresh Air.
posted September 18, 2009 03:45 AM

Im looking 4 a map to play and always heard of this one...what kind is it? Cause i simply hate those maps where i have to re-load millions of times and adventure map is full with events with attacking creatures out of the reach at the point of getting to the location of the event. Im already playing one of those reload maps=astrogonia.
BTW i dont like Chinese style of maps neither.

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OhforfSake
OhforfSake


Promising
Legendary Hero
Initiate
posted September 28, 2009 12:50 AM

I just finished the map, and it's for the "campaing"-type of maps probably the best map I have ever played. (Campaign type, or single player type if you like).

Comparing this map, with the entire set of campaigns from RoE, AB and SoD, this map trumphs all those, not only in the humour department, but also in the quality of serious content.

Though at the end, though the ending is very realistic (in the at least way you'd expect it) and very amusing, I kind of feel the joke was on me, because I'd worked so hard to get this data, that for some reason was so important for this kid (sure he never expected to ruin the fabric of existance, but still...) and for what? For the stupid professor to throw it in the fire or at least that's what I supposed he did, it said he threw it in the flames of his heart or something like that.

Though I do also kind of like the ending, that way you really get personal to all characters and you won't miss the world that much after all, I only feel partly sorry for Jared Morgan (I believe that was his name) for not getting the information he thought important pasted through.

I'd also like some pointers from this Jared Morgan guy on how he could with the army of Albon defeat that huge Necromancer army.

Oh and finally I'd 1537 Mighty Gorgons at the end battle (though let's keep the time secret haha), I got an extra 900 or something like that, because I'd, to begin with a pack down in my area that I decided to keep on growing, and apparantly monsters grows faster and faster, at about the end, they increased with about 60-80 pr. week I believe.

Anyway, the map is great, very much the same atmosphere as when reading a high quality book, which is very positive in my opinion, and I'd certainly recommend it for everyone, though it can get frustrating that not like when you read a book, you'll have to truely battle your way through some of the chapters, and may fail and have to start over.

And then there's sadly the ever present problem with the AI, if you act before you're strong enough, you'll most likely fail and if you outwait the AI, eventhough it gets more power than you pr. time frame, you'll prevail, because it most often divides its powers among many smaller units, isn't taking full advantage of spells and doesn't seem to care much of the stats of the individual hero, so you often ends up facing a hero with about 5 in all stats when you've about 20 on all difficulties.

I like the idea to lock heroes to towns, because that way they have to gather at least for the given town, a problem however is that often the computer decided to run, but with a hero locked in the town, they couldn't rehire the one who ran, and thereby they often would loose a good hero anyway.

I noticed a reference (in parts with the narrator comments in the text-document) that gave me the impression of a similar (at least having a narrator as well) map exists, if I can find it, I may play it through some time as well.

I'll stop this long monotonous talk now, though I'm really fond of the whole concept of the map, the Pirate fleet part, travelling through the swamp part (for some reason my chapter 4 event didn't trigger the first time), the battle against the newly rosen inferno towns, defeating the necromancers and finally taking out LeBlanc himself. (He only had 20 azures in the end, which was less than I expected, I don't know if this is a bug, but I know the army I'd could take out a lot more, especially as the AI often doesn't seem to target gorgons or take DS into consideration (1500 takes about ~150 creatures pr. attack as far as I know)).

Quote:
Quote:
What is Sanders Folly in HoMM?
I just know it from Diablo 2 as a Set for the Necromancer--
pleasy tell me

regards
Daddy

I always wondered about this - my map was released in 2000.  Diablo2 was released in 2000 also.  I actually never played Diablo2 - and so the name of the map was original.  Kind of strange that the same name would appear in Diablo2, don't you think?  Just a coincidence?  hmm..


Well they had released pre-knowledge of some of the items, though you may never know if someone in there was a fan.

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SKPRIMUS
SKPRIMUS


Promising
Supreme Hero
The One and the Prime
posted September 28, 2009 01:09 AM

I'm convinced that it was related, it was a nice surprise when I saw the name of that set.
I think one day I will re-install my H3 just to play this map
(can you believe I played Goldheart [best map I played, also by same author] & didn't get around to playing Sander's Folly? lol with tears)
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OhforfSake
OhforfSake


Promising
Legendary Hero
Initiate
posted September 29, 2009 10:42 AM

I have been thinking, since the Necromancers seemed much more powerful than the humans at Baron's ford, could it be, that Morgan had an advantage compared to Albin, in the fact that the king was there as well, probably holding the Orb of Inhibition and thereby making the magic powers of Sagimyrus and his mages unuseful?

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Drakon-Deus
Drakon-Deus


Bad-mannered
Legendary Hero
Everywhere and nowhere
posted October 04, 2009 02:04 PM

That's possible. Eric Leblanc also has powerful artifacts,like the Sword of Judgement,Lion's Shield of Courage,Helm of Havenly Enlightenment,Golden Bow...so I think that with the aid of the artifacts and with Jared Morgan's tactics,the undead were defeated.I have a question: How did Leblanc get the Orb of Inhibition in the first place?I know it doesn't matter very much,but I was always curious about this.

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Hint
Hint

Tavern Dweller
posted November 09, 2009 11:54 AM

Just finished this map. I'm usually not into these story based map, probably cause i usually dont read the stories at all, but going into this one, i knew it was all about the story, and this one was really something. Thanks to whoever made the map.

Btw the final battle was alot harder than i expected, i went into it with very wrong troops(only tower troops), and since i had no gold to buy a new army(moos, ABs etc) i kinda used a loophole(i think it's one) that this map has. U can get the cloak of undead king in the map. Combine that with a necro hero and those pandora boxes in wizard test, u can get around 100k liches

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sachelos
sachelos


Known Hero
posted November 29, 2009 05:17 PM
Edited by sachelos at 17:38, 29 Nov 2009.

Quote:
Im looking 4 a map to play and always heard of this one...what kind is it? Cause i simply hate those maps where i have to re-load millions of times and adventure map is full with events with attacking creatures out of the reach at the point of getting to the location of the event. Im already playing one of those reload maps=astrogonia.
BTW i dont like Chinese style of maps neither.


Just started to play Astrogonia map, killed Blackies but i cant figure it out yet how to kill down those crystal dragons, any ideas pls

@edit: solve it quite good, lost some pixies but i guess is ok in the end, simple solution at last, now i have to figure it out vs legion rust dragons...lets see

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sachelos
sachelos


Known Hero
posted December 01, 2009 10:55 AM
Edited by sachelos at 13:12, 03 Dec 2009.

hi

Any ideas for "Whirlpools area" ? I'm surfing on the sea for more than 1 hour... a quest guard is looking for "Hero with purple flag", other quest is looking for "Shackles of war"...grrr...

Still i have no clue..any help pls?

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OhforfSake
OhforfSake


Promising
Legendary Hero
Initiate
posted December 03, 2009 01:37 PM

Is this about astrognia? I haven't played said map, but would it not be better then to make a topic about that map, so people who see this topic updated don't think it's a about sanders folly?

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Corribus
Corribus

Hero of Order
The Abyss Staring Back at You
posted December 03, 2009 08:53 PM
Edited by Corribus at 20:56, 03 Dec 2009.

@speckledjim

Quote:
Kudos for whoever made the map *thumbs up*

I made it.  Glad you liked it.

@pei

It's a story-driven adventure map.  Hard but not too ridiculous.

@OFFS

Quote:
I noticed a reference (in parts with the narrator comments in the text-document) that gave me the impression of a similar (at least having a narrator as well) map exists, if I can find it, I may play it through some time as well.

I made several H3 maps.  The reference was probably to my first H3 map, Goldheart, which I'm sure you can find around somewhere.  If you can't pm me and I can send it to you.  My other maps, sadly, were parts of unfinished campaigns (two SoD maps - The Story of the Fool and the Outpost of Progress; and several WoG maps) but (IMO) they're still worth playing.  They have much more detailed stories; I don't know if that's a positive or a negative for you.  Most of them are the same "style", with the exception of Story of the Fool, which is a puzzle map.  All of them are available at Celestial Heavens.

@Dragon-Deus
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That's possible. Eric Leblanc also has powerful artifacts,like the Sword of Judgement,Lion's Shield of Courage,Helm of Havenly Enlightenment,Golden Bow...so I think that with the aid of the artifacts and with Jared Morgan's tactics,the undead were defeated.I have a question: How did Leblanc get the Orb of Inhibition in the first place?I know it doesn't matter very much,but I was always curious about this.

Good question.  I guess we'll never know.

@sachelos
Could you clarify if your question is about Sanders Folly?

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OhforfSake
OhforfSake


Promising
Legendary Hero
Initiate
posted December 04, 2009 08:04 AM

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I don't know if that's a positive or a negative for you.

If I find the story good (which I never know before hand. ), then the more detail, often the better, is my experience.

Quote:
All of them are available at Celestial Heavens.

Thanks, I'll check out Goldheart, The Story of the Fool and the Outpost of Progress sometime.
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cyanight
cyanight


Hired Hero
posted December 04, 2009 01:32 PM

what is
RoE?

AB?

SoD?


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gnollking
gnollking


Supreme Hero
Supreme Hero
posted December 04, 2009 01:36 PM


RoE? - Restoration of Erathia. The first version of HoMM 3.

AB? - Armageddon's Blade. The first addon to RoE.

SoD? - Shadow of Death. The addon to AB.

WoG? - In the Wake of Gods. The best one of all, addon to SoD or HoMM Complete (complete = RoE, AB and SoD).


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