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balcough_dra...
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posted August 17, 2004 05:36 AM |
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things that should be changed
berserk spell which is level 4
is not line of sight which is unbalanced
every other powerful mind spell is but that is not
can make your 10 phoinxes kill your tact while order mage can not even see phoinxes
i believe this must be changed
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insatiable
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posted August 17, 2004 08:36 AM |
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WHAT ou mean? quilibri?
always wondered how demonology could stay as it is, under the name of 'balance multiplayer modification'..
as i see it, GM need around~ 40% reduce, master 30%
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the_teacher
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posted August 17, 2004 12:29 PM |
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berserk spell which is level 4
is not line of sight which is unbalanced
every other powerful mind spell is but that is not
can make your 10 phoinxes kill your tact while order mage can not even see phoinxes
i believe this must be changed
thats why is called "the mage" . Do not forget the mage behind the mage 
c'mon ball, mass confusion can be worse (same level), you only needed a poor exorcism or some other low level spell to couterattack that even few summoned wolves could have been helped you. besides you got the chaos shield ,so it was an extra risk taken, remember they resisted once.
I really didn't believe you will post something like this. What about your 25 venoms/round? insa is right,maybe not totally , but has at least a good point. Do you think was decent that 30 ice demons/25 venoms per round? but this is the game, i don't complain, its very close to what we need for a true balance , just few minor things to tune up.
I hope to see clearly the effects of new equi release to analyse it as correct as i could, no need for radical changes. IMHO.
all i want is to ask Dalai for a postpone of latest patch until we figure it out if all the changes will work fine, maybe suggest few more.
have a nice day
P.S. don't be upset, i was lucky. where there are no chances i rely on luck and prayers that you suggested me to do
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insatiable
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posted August 17, 2004 01:24 PM |
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balco
you could just send phinix towards-->
or have waited the excorcism guys, or have high speed/morale on them .. or both.. oror..
order spells seem killer once they work, but you just cant be sure.. they dont have the 'value for money' like 'summon crap' spells.. and they dont go with a guarantee either, a mind spell may even fail but never a summon
balco suffer from the 'what kills me is unbalanced' theory?
i told you not get excited, the romanian is dirty little pig.. kolia couldnt pass his swiss ways on him, too few time
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balcough_dra...
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posted August 17, 2004 04:29 PM |
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its not like blind tho
this makes your ceature waste its turn attacking nearest ceature most likely will be yours if opponent casted it
yes mass confusion is powerful but that is also needed for chaos since their spells do not compare with order
i just don't get why all the other ones are line of sight now but not berserk
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Jinxer
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posted August 17, 2004 05:03 PM |
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I agree demonologists need reduced atleast 50%
Good point Insatiable. Wish I had thought of that 
Jinxer
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the_teacher
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posted August 17, 2004 05:09 PM |
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its not like blind tho
this makes your ceature waste its turn attacking nearest ceature most likely will be yours if opponent casted it
yes mass confusion is powerful but that is also needed for chaos since their spells do not compare with order
i just don't get why all the other ones are line of sight now but not berserk
have you heard about voodoo ? thats remote ! just look at that bouncing lil red man dancing on your head, and youll notice the similarity
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balcough_dra...
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posted August 17, 2004 06:46 PM |
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yes i agree demono should be turned down about 25% to 35%
summon 4 to 5 devils
not 8
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Jinxer
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posted August 18, 2004 05:33 AM |
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Summon 4 Devils MAXIMUM! How many Pheonixes or Manti can be summoned with the comparable level Nature dude? Should be about the same in comparison.
ohhh and incase I havent mentioned it... Sanctuary should be made to be cast just like Cloud of COnfusion NOT as a Mass spell.
Jinxer
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balcough_dra...
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posted August 18, 2004 06:03 AM |
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jinxer good ole jinxer
you get 3 phoinxes for gm nature after level 12 or so
and then you would try for gm demono after?just for 4 devils would be a waste of time i think
could get atleast gm comat and master resist on him instead or trying for gm must be 5 atleast theres not many maps to even think to try for gm demono must be special or its a waste of time
and about sactuary i think its fine the way it is only lasts what 3 rounds now correct?
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Aculias
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posted August 18, 2004 06:25 AM |
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Jinxers whining should be decreased by 68% more
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the_teacher
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posted August 18, 2004 10:13 AM |
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Summon 4 Devils MAXIMUM! How many Pheonixes or Manti can be summoned with the comparable level Nature dude? Should be about the same in comparison.
ohhh and incase I havent mentioned it... Sanctuary should be made to be cast just like Cloud of COnfusion NOT as a Mass spell.
Jinxer
jinxer, just in case you forgot, a GM demonologist counts as 2 druids together, because of the number of skills, AND is much harder to built such a demonologist than 2 gm druids.
SO, logically, mathematically, a GM demonologist should summon at least 6 devils (being a sum of 3+3 lvl4 summoning druids ).
The problem not resides in how many you summon, (besides the fact that 1 outta 200 times can get a gm demonologist on a different map than IP), if you're gonna lose the fight, you will, no matter how many will summon at this level of fights. the amount of summoned creatures will affect the chances to win like.. less than 1%. I mean, to be correctly understood, summoning 15 venoms (or ice demons , even devils) or 25 has same result .
it's only about visualizing the number, not else.
there are some other issues , more important, that should be taken in consideration.
and about the sanctuary, maybe i was lucky, but in more than 10 games when it was used agaisnt me, it didnt affect too much the outcome.
have a nice day
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the_teacher
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posted August 18, 2004 10:26 AM |
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almost forgot..
everytime i open HC board and notice a post signed aculias on a serious thread , i feel like another serious matter just died, and need to start with a fresh one, in order to not confuse the weak minded persons.
have a nice day
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balcough_dra...
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posted August 18, 2004 03:24 PM |
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hes just like dingo
all crap
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Aculias
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posted August 19, 2004 04:48 AM |
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Romanians live under one name while it is said 3 times.
Cheat cheat Cheat.
Yalls think I give a crap, all the important issues have been said & done yrs ago.
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insatiable
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posted August 19, 2004 10:10 AM |
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Baalcooouugh!!
ueres my weekly clanwar sonny??
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the_teacher
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posted August 19, 2004 10:41 AM |
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of course balcough is backin off , after we've shaken hands. or maybe gaga should be pushed a bit finish the game ?! the truth is out there
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vesuvius
Hero of Order
Honor Above all Else
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posted August 20, 2004 06:13 AM |
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Baalcooouugh!!
ueres my weekly clanwar sonny??
Haha for once Insatiable you were funny here haha I did LoL
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Hoher
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posted August 20, 2004 09:21 AM |
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jinxer, just in case you forgot, a GM demonologist counts as 2 druids together, because of the number of skills, AND is much harder to built such a demonologist than 2 gm druids.
SO, logically, mathematically, a GM demonologist should summon at least 6 devils (being a sum of 3+3 lvl4 summoning druids ).
The problem not resides in how many you summon, (besides the fact that 1 outta 200 times can get a gm demonologist on a different map than IP), if you're gonna lose the fight, you will, no matter how many will summon at this level of fights. the amount of summoned creatures will affect the chances to win like.. less than 1%. I mean, to be correctly understood, summoning 15 venoms (or ice demons , even devils) or 25 has same result .
Demonologist + Demonary = 4 druid. I think For balance effect of Demonary must be less than now (25-30% is enough).
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the_teacher
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posted August 20, 2004 12:32 PM |
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Haha for once Insatiable you were funny
i guess it happend for the....second time
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