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mamgaeater
Legendary Hero
Shroud, Flying, Trample, Haste
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posted March 08, 2008 06:06 PM |
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i have a question... how violent and or innapropriate is this game. i am considerng buying it and i want to know if i is really bad or no so bad. (ratingwise)
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Protection From Everything.
dota
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ismail222
Known Hero
The Cataclysm
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posted March 08, 2008 06:11 PM |
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It's the best rpg ever right after it's predeccessor diablo 1 and it's not that violent nor inappropriate it's better than gta  .
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Ppl griveing,Ppl
Deceving,Ppl lying,Ppl dying
One Word : Life
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RedSoxFan3
Admirable
Legendary Hero
Fan of Red Sox
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posted March 08, 2008 10:26 PM |
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Necro Summoner: (PvM Build)
I recommend that you have the gear ready to go for this character and that you glitch rush him to hell. You'll have more life this way, and you won't have to spend extra points for your curses as you first start out. 1 point is enough in most things after you get your basic gear, torch and annihilus. My curses have more than enough radius and duration and I only put 1 point into each curse. With my mf gear on, I still have around level 13-15 curses.
Summoning: (67 Points)
20 Raise Skeleton *****
20 Skeleton Mastery *****
20 Skeleton Mage ***
1 Golem Mastery **
1 Clay Golem ****
1 Blood Golem **
1 Iron Golem **
1 Fire Golem **
1 Summon Resist **
1 Revive ***
Poison and Bone: (23 Points)
1 Teeth
20 Corpse Explosion *****
1 Bone Armor ***
1 Bone Wall **
Curses: (7 Points)
1 Amplify Damage *****
1 Weaken
1 Terror
1 Decrepify ****
1 Dim Vision ***
1 Confuse
1 Attract ***
Summary of Build:
You only need 97 points to complete this build, and maxing the skeleton mages isn't even necessary. If you decide you don't want to do mages, then use marrowwalk, and dump the rest of the points into bone spirit and some synergies. I don't recommend golems. They stay alive well enough with just +skills and 1 point in each thing. You can really do whatever you want with this build, I just think mages are the best thing to dump the rest of your points into.
Why these Skills?
Raise Skeleton and Skeleton Mastery:
Regular skeletons at high skill levels, will deal insane amounts of damage. Using semi-magic find gear, I have my skeletons at level 40. I can summon 15 of them and they deal upwards of 600 damage each hit. If I was going for pure +skills, I could easily get level 50 skeletons, by filling my inventory with summon grand charms, arachnid mesh and 2 Sojs. I also don't have a +3 summoning amulet nor a rare +2/+2 amulet. And I use shako instead of a 3 summoning circlet. I could also probably find a rare necromancer shield with 3 summoning and extra skills to raise skeleton and mastery. All of this could conceivably get me up to around level 55 skeletons. Not sure how much it would deal, but I'd guess at least 1000 damage a hit.
Anyway, take my 600 damage a hit from each skeleton. After I cast amplify damage, this damage doubles to 1200. If I get an Act 2 offensive mercenary, the might aura will stack with the amplify damage. And I'll be dealing around 1500-1800 for each skeleton. This is somewhat comparable to a well geared mercenary.
Skeleton Mages:
My mages are about level 37 and with level 40 mastery they deal about 200 cold damage, 380 fire damage, and 50-600 lightning damage. It's a bit complicated to calculate mage damage because blizzard doesn't like telling you. Just trust me on this one, I looked it up based on my skill level.
This will never deal as much damage as regular skeletons, nor will they have the survivability of regular skeletons. However, they are excellent supplimental damage, especially when I encounter a physical immune.
Clay Golem:
Easily the best golem. You aren't going to be caring about damage from your golem with this build. Ever. So then why even summon a golem? Well at high levels he lowers target enemy speed by 75%. This is excellent for any boss or unique that is dealing a lot of damage. Its especially helpful for ancients.
Corpse Explosion:
I think this is easily the best spell in the game. It is half physical, half fire damage. Which means lower resist and amplify damage will both increase the amount of damage this spell will deal. Normally the spell will deal 60-100% the enemies health, but after a curse this will have a good chance of being over that, if the enemy has no resistances. It usually takes 2 or 3 explosions to take out a group of cows in hell mode with only 1 player in the game. At high skill levels, you can click on a corpse in the middle of a 800x600 screen and it will kill enemies in the very far corners of the screen.
Amplify Damage:
This doubles the damage your skeletons will deal. 90% of the time this spell will break physical immunities. This spell stacks with the might aura from the Act 2 offensive merc. This is the bread and butter of killing quickly.
Decrepify:
50% more physical damage, slows target by 50%, weakens target (deals 50% less damage). It does all 3 of these things in a single curse. Ideal for boss battles or for a group of enemies that is killing your units or merc.
Dim Vision:
It took me a long time playing this guy before I appreciated this build. Burning Souls or various other annoying ranged foes can be kept at bay with this spell. Use this against ranged enemies. Very useful. I like to use this against oblivion knights. Though they usually get the curse off before I can blind them anyway.
Attract:
Another great spell. Suppose you have a large group of enemies that is dealing a lot of damage. You can cast this on one of your enemies, and every nearby enemy will attack that monster. This will NOT kill the foe. It will just prevent the enemies from attacking you. It is particularly useful when you realize that your merc is dying or your skeletons are dying. I also use it sometimes when I want to get the first kill so I can start summoning and I need to keep my merc alive.
Teleport:
This is essential to getting fast kills. The build is decent without teleport, but it isn't ridiculously broken until you get this. You may have noticed this from playing as sorc. Your mercenary instantly acquires a new target every time you teleport and it will attack instantly as well, so long as it is no longer lagging from a previous attack.
The same goes for every summon. Your golem, mercenary, skeletons and skeleton mages will all instantly acquire a target and attack that unit the minute you teleport anywhere. So if you teleport next to an enemy. Every minion will attack that unit all at once. Usually what you see is you teleport next to the enemy and in the same animation the enemy is falling to the ground dying. Instantly after that I cast, amp damage and corpse explosion. Usually a couple enemies die and I blow them up. Now an entire room full of guys has been killed in about 3 to 4 seconds. You wouldn't be able to do this without teleport. Your minions will not stack on top of each other the way they do when you teleport next to an enemy. This means about only 3 or 4 skeletons can reach a particular enemy. And in a large crowd of enemies, its usually only 2 maybe 3 skeletons attacking a single monster.
Is this risky? Most of the time it isn't. If you teleport in front of the correct unit, you'll never get hit. Most of the time the enemy is attacking a minion, because your minions are attacking them. However if you teleport into a very large crowd, your minions won't attack each unit and you'll have to rely on your block rate to avoid getting hit.
Generally speaking even when I teleport into the most dangerous of crowds, such as serpents, burning souls, and stygian dolls (all 3 in a single crowd) I usually have enough time to teleport to a safer spot where I can use my minions as a much better meat shield.
Usually if you teleport somewhere and then run away from the unit a step or two, the enemies will never attack you. However if you teleport next to the enemy and don't move, you have a chance of being hit.
What gear to wear?
Enigma (2hr +pul/um)
Shako (pul/um) - Summoning Circlet (pul/um)
Arm of King Leroic (This gives +5 to raise skeleton and mastery) (lem/ko/pul)
Humunculus (pul/um) - Summoning Head w/ +2 or +3 to raise skeleton (mal/hr)
3 Summ Amulet with good mods (cheap)
30+ mf rings (pul-hr) - Wisp (pul-hr) - Soj (1.5-2hr) (I currently wear a perfect nagel and a 37% magical one, magical rings can go up to 40%, those are worth multiple highrunes tho)
Up'd Goldwrap (Cheap) - Dungos (pul/um) - Arachnid Mesh (1.5 hr) - Thundergods (pul) (any of these works find here)
High Chance Guards (Pul) - Good Rare Gloves (Cheap-pul/um)
War Travelers (pul-hr) - Marrowwalk (pul) - Up'd Hot Spur (not sure) - Good Rare (cheap) (I personally use rare mf boots w/ 25 mf and 35 in 2 resists, any of these will work tho)
Torch (any stats is fine) (pul-hr)
Annihilus (any stats is fine) (um-hr+)
Summon Grand Charms (optional) (pul/um each)
If you total up the cost of everything you see here. You could make this character fully twinked, or close to it, spending only about 4 hr. The bulk of the cost will actually be enigma. You'll need ber and jah. You can find low 3os dusks for pul or even less. Probably lem or Ko if its under 400.
After getting a nigma, focus on getting Shako, a torch, Leroic, and Humunculus. You can find all of these for cheap. Low shakos are worth pul. Necro torches are worth almost nothing. Unless you have a 19-20 Ntorch it's not gonna be worth an hr. Average Ntorches are worth um/mal. Low ones are worth pul. Leroic wand you could get for as cheap as Ko or Lem depending on the person. Its a great wand, but I have a really hard time trading it cause the only people who want it never have anything for it. Humunculus will be the hardest thing to get I'd say. You might have to cough up an um to get this thing, but again you could probably get one for pul. This is probably the most expensive unique necro item in the game with the exception of a good darkforce, because its universally the best shield in the game or at least damn good for any necro build.
The rest of the gear, you can use cheap alternatives if you want, such as mid nagelrings, rare mf gloves, rare mf boots, goldwraps, etc...
On the very cheapest end you could make this guy well equipped for 3 hr. On the very very high end, you could spend probably 10-15 hr getting sojs, arach, high wartravs, perfect chancies, blue (magical) 35-40 mf rings, high torch, high annihilus, summon gcs with godly second mods, a godly summoning ammy, a godly circlet, and a godly necromancer shield.
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Go Red Sox!
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Drunk_Lord
Known Hero
very happy hero :)
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posted March 11, 2008 01:21 PM |
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@RedSoxFan3
Sounds promising, but... I'd never learn how to play necromancer correctly. I never got anything good with him. Maybe I just prefer the slash-dash-bash type of hero 
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Drunk_Lord
Known Hero
very happy hero :)
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posted March 12, 2008 11:46 AM |
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Here's my favorite hero and PvWhatever build.
Assassin:
The most likely combos I see with assassin are phoenix and traps. And tiger strike here-there .
Tiger Strike adds INSANE damage. When maxed(20 lvl) it adds 1440% damage  which means that it's enough do around 900 dmg with simple hit(900X14,4 makes around 13000). But if u have luck u can score godly damage. So here is it:
Build 1:
Martial Arts
Tiger Strike - 20
Cobra Strike - 1
Dragon Talon\Dragon Tail\Dragon Flight - 20
Shadow Disciplines
Claw Mastery - 1
Burst of Speed - 20
Very easy build(only around 65 points needed). Here's explanation: U need a finishing move to make use of tiger strike. So it'll be the kicks. Dragon Talon causes physical damage, which isn't screwed by immunities, but there'll be some hard times vs immune to physical on hell. And the Damage isn't that good. Dragon Tail is my favorite for the kick build. Does good splash damage, pity it's fire. Dragon Flight. Cold is good, but casting delay makes it crap  .
It's easy. Just charge tiger(and cobra when the situation is risky) strike and launch some kicks here-there. Also this build leaves u personal choice to develop ur hero further on with ur own style.
Build 2:
Martial Arts
Tiger Strike - 20
Cobra Strike - 1
Dragon Claws - 20
Shadow Disciplines
Claw Mastery - 20
Burst of Speed - 20
Weapon Block - 20 or 1
This build requires much more skill points, but is more efficent. U get the damage from tiger strike with some good katar, pathetic bonus from dragon claws, bonus to damage and critical strike from claw mastery. In fact with u can deal more than 30K damage  that way. Weapon block can be very good. U must max it, or just insert one skill point. There's no middle situation here hehe .
Stats:
Get ready to put many points in strength and dextirity. Some points in live and energy will be good, but not too much. With Burst of Speed it'll be easy to evade big percent of the attacks. Also if u play katars weapon block might be lifesaver.
Equipment:
With both build aim for Natalya's Odium. It reduces dammage by 30% and has many other benefits. If u go katar-using try to find another good katar(maybe Chaos runeword).
Other notes:
If u're a fan of PvP I can tell u that this works fine vs any hero. The sorc may cause u some headaches with her teleport(very funny thing happened to me ones, I was fighting a sorc and I had charged tiger strike to max and I was just kicking the air around me because she just teleported here-there, but the sorc teleported in fronts of me and :KABOOM!:. She had just teleported on my kick ). PvM is easy. Buff and destroy. Watch out for iron maiden(not only necromancers uses this trick) though, I once got my 48K inserted in my assassin's skull .
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JoonasTo
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
What if Elvin was female?
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posted March 12, 2008 12:10 PM |
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No need to put energy with those builds.
Level up mana will be enough.
Oh and watch out those amazons who make use of the glitch that prevents you from hitting them with dragon flight.
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DON'T BE A NOOB, JOIN A.D.V.E.N.T.U.R.E.
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Sargeras
Known Hero
the Fallen
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posted March 12, 2008 12:45 PM |
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...also try hammerdin or wind druid - very powerful  but also expansive
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Now they shall be consumed by the very flame they sought to control...
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Drunk_Lord
Known Hero
very happy hero :)
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posted March 12, 2008 06:14 PM |
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What do u said! My first two heroes were hammerdins
EDIT:Btw does anyone of u guys play Zy-el mod? It's so hard that u may want to hit the computer, btw
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william
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
LummoxLewis
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posted March 15, 2008 09:03 AM |
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My character got hacked by some jerk. He left one character (after he deleted the rest of mine), and then rearranged my potions in my inventory to spell out LOL and then in my stash to spell out a smily face. I was seriously pissed off when I saw this.
I have started again however.
I just hope not to be hacked again but some jerk who has no damn life..
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ismail222
Known Hero
The Cataclysm
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posted March 15, 2008 11:42 AM |
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Sorry for ya,hackers are the worst having no life and no respect for other people's effort,gl starting over.
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Ppl griveing,Ppl
Deceving,Ppl lying,Ppl dying
One Word : Life
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william
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
LummoxLewis
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posted March 15, 2008 11:51 AM |
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Yeah that's true. Worst thing was that I had all this very good gear, mostly given to me by a friend, and I feel bad that the stuff they gave me is now gone.
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radar
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Castle/Haven player
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posted March 15, 2008 01:45 PM |
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What's your new acc name then?
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william
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
LummoxLewis
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posted March 15, 2008 01:58 PM |
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I have kept my same account but I have changed a few things with it. Hopefully it will keep hackers from entering it.
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radar
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Castle/Haven player
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posted March 15, 2008 02:51 PM |
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I need Mav's True Sight, if someone is mercyful enough...
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Drunk_Lord
Known Hero
very happy hero :)
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posted March 15, 2008 08:02 PM |
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Every man has the right to dream  ...
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Drunk_Lord
Known Hero
very happy hero :)
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posted March 18, 2008 04:07 PM |
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Hey, I was hacked too  some guy had taken care of my Natalya's Odium and now I'm just left with one runeword katar and rings and amulet
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EvilLoynis
Famous Hero
The Dark Shadow
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posted March 19, 2008 12:14 AM |
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Javazon
Hey I am making my first Javazon now. It's really great I have my Titans Revenge on and am lvl 44 or something like that. I have the Charged Bolt Strike alread maxed and am now maxing out Lightning Fury.
Anyone know what ur supposed to do in NightMare when u get all those Lightning Immune guys?!
Other thing that's annoying is if you max out the light synergies it takes up like 103 skill points. With your last 7 you can get Valky but it only gets 1 skill point in it lol
Any tips guys?
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"I am both selfish and instictive. I value nature and the world around me as means to an end as well as an end in itself; at best I ... too long to display...
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RedSoxFan3
Admirable
Legendary Hero
Fan of Red Sox
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posted March 19, 2008 05:28 AM |
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Quote:
Hey I am making my first Javazon now. It's really great I have my Titans Revenge on and am lvl 44 or something like that. I have the Charged Bolt Strike alread maxed and am now maxing out Lightning Fury.
Anyone know what ur supposed to do in NightMare when u get all those Lightning Immune guys?!
Other thing that's annoying is if you max out the light synergies it takes up like 103 skill points. With your last 7 you can get Valky but it only gets 1 skill point in it lol
Any tips guys?
Don't max synergies in light and get a 20 valk.
Anyway I quit Diablo 2. I gave away at least 20 high runes of items. 2 nigmas, perfect fire eschuta, several full sets, 5bo cta, a couple GG circlets and pelts, and numerous items worth um-pul, I was addicted lol and playing way too much. It feels good to get away from the game though.
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Go Red Sox!
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EvilLoynis
Famous Hero
The Dark Shadow
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posted March 24, 2008 09:27 PM |
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Mourning
" RIP "
"Conqueror Lumentia Lvl 71"
" Died March 23/08 in Hell Act1 Dark Woods"
" Specialties, Enchant/Orb "
" Items: Spirit, Lidless, FrostBurn, Tals Belt, Kuko Shakaku, Hexfire,and Que-Hegan's Wisdom."
" She will Rise Again revenge herself soon"
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"I am both selfish and instictive. I value nature and the world around me as means to an end as well as an end in itself; at best I ... too long to display...
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Drunk_Lord
Known Hero
very happy hero :)
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posted March 25, 2008 02:37 PM |
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hmm
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