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Thread: HoMM2 strategy anyone? [ This thread is 4 pages long: 1 (2) 3 4 ]
Coldfyrius
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posted August 24, 2001 02:43 AM
Edited By: Coldfyrius on 23 Aug 2001

About the Sorceress Town:

To kill time one day when my CD drive was busted, I calculated how many HP each town could get per week with every building.  The numbers are as follows, includong a %HP of top town:
Warlock:     1785  100.0%
Wizard:      1624   91.0%
Barbarian:   1230   68.9%
Necromancer: 1202   67.3%
Knight:       902   50.5%
Sorceress:    871   48.3%
So, as you can see, Sorceress can't compete in terms of HPs per week.  Which means it can't win a protracted game.
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Sha_Men
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posted August 24, 2001 09:30 AM

Something...

I remember that I could play with sorceress pretty well but in battle I took major casualties always. Usually it meant that you had to get another type of town quickly so you could get some heavy ground troops to protect those ranged. Also blind and some mass slow were very useful for Sorceress.
Necromancer wasn't so bad if you could get skeletons so that HP thing doesn't tell everything. Bone dragons were really terrible but usually skeletons could play role of second 6th level unit in late game.
Knight sucked bigtime and Warlord was way too powerful. Of course it depended how much resources you got and how big map you played...

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Camelnor
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posted August 25, 2001 02:09 AM

Coldfyrius....

take away the L6 creature in each town and sorceress is higher than knight and right in the mix w/the others. so in most of the game before you get dragons and such, they have no less hp then any other castle (or at least not much less)

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Camelnor
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posted August 25, 2001 02:12 AM

a quick note to titan...

titan>>
umm, hate to break it to you but... all the heroes are the same in h2.  arie has just as much of a chance to get a lotta spell power as wrathmont or any other warlock hero.
and the same for all the others.

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posted August 25, 2001 09:27 AM

That's right. The only difference between Crag Hack and Fineous is their names and pictures.
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Darkmyth_Miura
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posted August 25, 2001 10:23 AM

don't u guys think talking about HOMM2 is a bit outdated now?
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posted August 25, 2001 10:41 AM

Why? The name of the site is "Heroes Community"... and some people still play Heroes 2. Heck, some of us even dust off the original HOMM once in a while. The graphics in the earlier games may not be as 'cool', but the fun and the gameplay is still there.
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Lord_Woock
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posted August 25, 2001 04:52 PM

When HoMM4 will come out, this is the list of HoMM games. Number one will be the one i like the best, and four - the one I'll never want to play. And here's the list:

1. HoMM2
2. HoMM
3. HoMM3
4. HoMM4
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Coldfyrius
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posted August 26, 2001 01:50 AM
Edited By: Coldfyrius on 26 Aug 2001

Okay.  Here are the numbers sans level 6.
Barbarian 910
Warlock 885
Necromancer 752
Wizard 724
Knight 642
Sorceress 571
So, no, Sorceress is still in last place.  Did you forget Wells or something like that?  
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Darkmyth_Miura
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posted August 26, 2001 03:16 AM

I dunno about that. Sure, people still play Heroes2, but I don't. After the campaigns are all gone, the game's obsolete.
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Camelnor
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posted August 26, 2001 03:34 AM

knight must have better growth... cuz i just added 1 of each creature together and sorceress won by 1 hp, lol. the sprite = 2 hp, peasant = 1 hp - that was the difference, lol.
but ur right, i bet knight has better growth.  but still, sorceress beats knight in that battle cuz they have 2 very fast shooters who take out rangers b4 they even go, so even though knight has more hp, sorceress easily wins there, and w/the phoenix and crusaders added in, sorceress would win even more easily.

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Darkmyth_Miura
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posted August 26, 2001 05:42 AM

heh, ok, fine, I'll talk about Heroes 2. do anyone of you think the campaigns of Heroes 2 are better than the ones in Heroes 3?
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Lord_Woock
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posted August 26, 2001 05:16 PM

Darkmyth, this thread is about strategies, not just simple chit-chat. I think HoMM2 has better campaigns, cuz you can swith from good to evil and vice versa.
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titan
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posted August 28, 2001 01:51 AM

ehm no im still playing homm II sometimes and Kastore has alot more chance 2 get alot of spell power then some other warlock heroes


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Camelnor
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posted August 28, 2001 02:34 AM

right.....

and how can you prove this...???  you've got the entire heroes community that i would guarentee would disagree w/you, lol.

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Lord_Woock
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posted August 28, 2001 08:01 AM

Umm... Does anybody know where's the post counter?
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Cheesus
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posted August 28, 2001 10:40 AM

hehe

I think the mods removed the post counter Lord_Woock.
Theres been to much trouble about it, i think they did the right thing.
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UnkaHaakon
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posted August 28, 2001 11:40 AM
Edited By: UnkaHaakon on 28 Aug 2001

Balance, or the lack thereof in Heroes 2

Of course the Warlocks have the highest HP totals, but it's also very expensive to build. Even with their extra income. And, you have to amass a lot of resources (primarily sulphur and ore, with a nice chunk of gems thrown in for minotaur kings) to build up everything, even if you skimp on mage guilds.

Wizards are also an expensive town. That's why when you take over a computer run Wizard's castle, it's highly likely you'll find a whole mess of titans unbought. They're bloody expensive. The mage guild, rather than the Titans, is usually the game-winner for them, since it's easy for them to get Expert wisdom early, and take advantage of the extra spells they'll get.

On the other side of the coin, we have the Knight and the Sorceress. The Knight gets stuck with peasants, without a doubt the most useless creature in HOMM2. Sprites can at least get clear across the map, and slap enemy shooters. Crusaders are the weakest 6th level(HP-wise), and knights have no flyers to disrupt enemy shooters. On the plus side, they're very likely to get morale boosts. Sorceress has a better innate spellcasting ability, and the second best shooting lineup in the game. And on maps with lots of water, they can be effective.

One thing very important to remember: That hitpoint total HAS to be split at least in two. You don't have enough slots in any one town or hero to carry everything. Something always has to be left out, and that choice can make or break the game.

Is HOMM2 unbalanced? Yep, it sure is, and that's part of the fun of it. You have the chance to take one of the lower powered towns and really challenge yourself. Or play Necro, and take advantage of all those sprites and peasants out there.

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Lord_Woock
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posted August 28, 2001 05:37 PM

So many HoMM2 fans out here...

When I made this thread, I didn't know it would be a flaming one before September! Thanks a lot to all of you that posted here. I think I'm gonna make a HoMM strategy thread.
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titan
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posted August 29, 2001 12:20 AM
Edited By: titan on 28 Aug 2001

ok w/e
i may be wrong
but ussaully if i play and have other warlock heroe and kastore and they have even exp. kastore's spell power is higher then my other warlock heroe

and not always does the comp player attacks your range units they sometimes attack the near by unit instead

1 more thing i dont know y but when my heroe have a lightninghelm the comp. player doesn't use lightning on me is this always so or not ???


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