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Daddy
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posted November 13, 2004 12:30 PM |
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Well, now I know 
Narf, why the hell was this ... sig-thingy disabled? thats a bit annoying, you know?^^
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Sir_Stiven
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posted November 13, 2004 02:35 PM |
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daddy, why are you having a pic from the swedish fairytale "nils holgersson" as signature?
and no, svarog is really mean to be and i never understands that his just tossing back.. give him all the penalties 
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Daddy
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posted November 13, 2004 02:58 PM |
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Well that is because my Name is Nils, too - and I like the story 
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Wolfman
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posted November 13, 2004 03:48 PM |
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hay, wolfie. mr bush had a message, not me. a joke. it was just a suitable occasion to post that killer pic, not that i meant anything serious. i bet stiven knows it.
Oh, I agree wholeheartedly. If I wasn't supposed to enforce the COC, I would have left it. I'd say it was appropriate for the situation, but not for the board. Stivin had it coming.
And Stivin, I didn't give him a penalty for that. 
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Sir_Stiven
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posted November 14, 2004 03:13 PM |
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hmm my guess is that wolfie has been to many american debate shows that he has lost the grip of what we normal people call reality and thats why he spells handles wrong and dont see why svarog should have all the penatlies
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terje_the_ma...
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posted November 15, 2004 01:12 PM |
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Applying the classic "quote-o-rama style" of Other Side to this thread for the forst time :
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Obviously few of you have ever spent a night in a forest under open sky. I havent either for an entire week, but one night and two days - yes. There was a river nearby, where we had a nice refreshment during the hot day.
Few? Bah, probably all has done that. I doubt that the people here are that nerdy; that they haven't slept outdoors for a couple of nights. Even I have, and I'm one of the geekiest people I know
What you need is:
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-sleeping bag
Sensible.
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-a bag of biscuits (the hell with your mushrooms; when you find more than a handful of them, call me)
Even though Macedonia may have a dry climate, at least Norway is very moist. Mushrooms everywhere in autumn. Biscuits for a week? They'd get soggy in two days, not to mention that you'd be sick of the things in a few days...
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-guitar (or other entertainment; not that it would be boring, but it makes nights next to campfire more fun)
Early to bed, early to rise. That's the way to go when you're outdoors. You don't need any 'entertainment' in Mother Nature; you just walk, have a look around, and if things get incredibly boring, start making a hut or something out of old logs.
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-matches (if u want a cool fire at night; not necessary though)
Necessary. Or are you ganna sit eating biscuiys all week? And those fishes you indend to get with your net: are you gonna have sushi? And if you don't intend to bring a tent, you definitely need somewhere to get some warmth... Flint is hard to come by...
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-fishing net (if u r next to river)
Bah. Better to spend this slot on a tent or something.
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-booze
Alcohol is nerve poison. Every time you drink alcohol a little bit of your barin dies. Besides, if it's cold, it's easier to freeze to death if you are drunk.
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What you dont need:
-cell phones (!no! no! no!)
Cell phones are annoying one of the best reasons to get out into the woods or mountains is to get away from these.
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-pots, cans, appliances; anything which reminds of civilization (u'll be amazed how it can work well without those)
I just remembered that I have used flat stones as frying pans. Like you said, amazing how well they work.
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-spare clothes (i know it sounds dirty, but its so much more fun without them)
I agree. For a week, you don't need extra clothes, unless you expect it to be very moist. Extra socks is a must though.
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-gun, knife (freakin paranoid city-boys! )
Knives have more uses than the East Europe use (sticking it in other people ), you know! Guns are just stupid, though.
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-compass (provided u know how you got to the place, u wont need this. plus, there are millions of other ways to find north and south)
Very true.
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Svarog
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posted November 16, 2004 02:41 AM |
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Edited By: Svarog on 15 Nov 2004
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Bah, probably all has done that. I doubt that the people here are that nerdy; that they haven't slept outdoors for a couple of nights. Even I have, and I'm one of the geekiest people I know
Judging by the responses we get here, I’d say you’re not.
Btw, how can you sleep outdoors in cold bloody norway? Igloos?
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They'd get soggy in two days, not to mention that you'd be sick of the things in a few days...
Oh yeah? how much would you be sick from your mushrooms then? So sick that you’ll vomit your intestines together with your anus, i guess. Remember, one amanita in your highly nutricious meal of fungi and soil, and you’re history.
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Alcohol is nerve poison. Every time you drink alcohol a little bit of your barin dies.
Foul words, my friend. If this were true, i guess my brain’s like arafat, dead but not quite.
Are you serious? About alcohol i mean.
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I just remembered that I have used flat stones as frying pans.
lol. Really? What did you use as oil? Cause i find it incredibly interesting if someone brings along oil, but not a frying pan.
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Knives have more uses than the East Europe use (sticking it in other people ), you know!
I mean, I know about one additional use (killing Scandinavian politicians), but now that you mentioned there are more, you really confused me there.
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For a week, you don't need extra clothes, unless you expect it to be very moist. Extra socks is a must though.
Socks!? Man, this is the point where it all became clear to me. We’re talking two different things.
The place where you intend on going looks like this:
The place where I intend on going (correction - already went here) looks like this:
The nights are warm. Not to mention the days - like hell. You can walk naked during most of the day. No socks. Imagine.
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Khaelo
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posted November 16, 2004 06:39 AM |
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Edited By: Khaelo on 16 Nov 2004
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Regarding biscuits:
My brother and his canoeing group got stranded in International Falls region (straddling Canada and the US) without their food thanks to an enterprising black bear. It was high-to-late summer, so they made do with wild blueberries for the last three days of the trip. The necessity of bringing food depends on where you're going, what time of year it is, and how well you know the local vegetation. Wild predators fail far more often than they succeed, so relying on hunting of any kind doesn't sound smart to me.
Regarding fire:
Is there some reason people are bringing matches instead of one of those long-nose lighters? Maybe I'm making this up, but don't matches cease to work if they get wet? It seems safe to assume anything and everything you bring will get wet.
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To me, trying to survive without civilization sounds anything but "simple."
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terje_the_ma...
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posted November 16, 2004 11:22 AM |
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[quoteJudging by the responses we get here, I’d say you’re not.
Btw, how can you sleep outdoors in cold bloody norway? Igloos?
Haven't you seen "Extreme Survival" on Discovery? Find yourself a good-looking pine (with branches all the way down to the ground), dig away the snow around it, and make yourself a nice little bed of branches.
Or just stay indoors in winters, and limit the sleeping outdoors to summers
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Oh yeah? how much would you be sick from your mushrooms then? So sick that you’ll vomit your intestines together with your anus, i guess. Remember, one amanita in your highly nutricious meal of fungi and soil, and you’re history.
Ok, fungi may not be the very best way to sustain a reasonable level of life (esp. not in winters ), but shots of pine are very nutritious, and it's amazing what we can find to eat if we just put away our narrow Western illusion of what's defined as "food". Ant pee is good, sqirrel traps are very easy to make, etc, etc.. 
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Foul words, my friend. If this were true, i guess my brain’s like arafat, dead but not quite.
Are you serious? About alcohol i mean.
I see my brain as a sharp sword (which it actually is, despite my rather bad posts here ). And if you have a sharp sword, you don't go banging it against every rock you can find, do you?
My life as a non-drinker has lasted since June 17th ( ), and hopefully, I can manage to withstand the sweet temptations of being completely wasted for the rest of my life...
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lol. Really? What did you use as oil? Cause i find it incredibly interesting if someone brings along oil, but not a frying pan.
Well, frying pan may not have been the best word to use.
What we did, was that we brought with us some bread dough and some eggs, and "fried" (my mind stands still; I can't make myself remember the correct word...) them on flat, thin rocks over a fire. Worked quite good.
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I mean, I know about one additional use (killing Scandinavian politicians), but now that you mentioned there are more, you really confused me there.
Weel, you can use a knife (if it's a rather big one) to chop wood and whatnot. Hope this was enlightening
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Socks!? Man, this is the point where it all became clear to me. We’re talking two different things.
The place where you intend on going looks like this:
The place where I intend on going (correction - already went here) looks like this:
The nights are warm. Not to mention the days - like hell. You can walk naked during most of the day. No socks. Imagine.
Socks are always usefull if you intend to walk.
Mountain shoes tend to be waterproof, right? And that no water comes in usually means that no water goes out either. So, when you start to walk, you sweat like a pig on your feet (unless you wear sandals, which, imo, is not very sensible in the "wilderness"), and the sweat has no way to go, except into your socks. This makes it easier to get blisters (I hope I used the right word here...); blisters that'll only get worse until you've changed your socks. You should pack two changes of socks for every day, imo, and a towel to dry your feet with.
As for where I'd go, I think this is more like it:
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"Sometimes I think everyone's just pretending to be brave, and none of us really are. Maybe pretending to be brave is how you get brave, I don't know."
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Daddy
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posted November 16, 2004 11:40 AM |
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Hey, it seems that we have two experts here^^
Nice pictures!
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terje_the_ma...
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posted November 16, 2004 12:17 PM |
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Bah.
Thanks for the compliment, Daddy, but I'd hardly call myself an expert (if you were referring to me and Svarog, that is...).
I only went outdoors when I was so young that my parents could still force me, and although I still occasionally enjoy a long walk in the mountains, I try to avoid it if possible.
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"Sometimes I think everyone's just pretending to be brave, and none of us really are. Maybe pretending to be brave is how you get brave, I don't know."
- Grenn, A Storm of Swords.
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Daddy
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posted November 16, 2004 12:20 PM |
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A long walk in the mountains...^^
Well, I would enjoy doing that just as a afternoon-walk near my house - if I could^^ . Maybe that's why I enjoyed the vacations in Austria so muich - 100m and you cold climb and have an awsome view - One day we colloected Mushrooms and "fried" (dont know that word either^^) them with butter- hmmm...^^
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terje_the_ma...
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posted November 16, 2004 12:24 PM |
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Well, it's not many mountains in Hamburg? Schwartzwald would be the closest mountainous area, right?
I am so lucky that when I'm visiting my parents, I have one of the most beautiful landscapes in Norway practically just outside the door. Which is really nice
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"Sometimes I think everyone's just pretending to be brave, and none of us really are. Maybe pretending to be brave is how you get brave, I don't know."
- Grenn, A Storm of Swords.
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Daddy
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posted November 16, 2004 12:44 PM |
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Yeah, that is a fact of wich I could get jealous of you^^
But, well - I am here in a very nice part of Hamburg, so I guess I can't complain
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terje_the_ma...
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posted November 16, 2004 12:48 PM |
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Rügen's not far from Hamburg, is it?
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"Sometimes I think everyone's just pretending to be brave, and none of us really are. Maybe pretending to be brave is how you get brave, I don't know."
- Grenn, A Storm of Swords.
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Daddy
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posted November 16, 2004 01:21 PM |
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I guess, not that far - HH is quite in the north of Germany - and Rügen... Wel, I guess not that far^^ - Dont know wehre Rügen is exactly, though shame on me^^
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Svarog
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posted November 17, 2004 04:29 AM |
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@terje
Brrrr… is that snow i can see in the back? And pines. Talking about Norwegian summer is like talking about fascist multiculturalism. Stay nice and cosy in the Arctic Circle, and come here from time to time to experience +30.
Damn, I hate cold.
I have in mind the same river I posted (Radika), and in summer, you wont need extra socks there, or T-shirts, cause you can wash them in the most clean water in the world (like I did). We’re talking necessities here, right?
I was a boy scout too a long time ago. All of the places we visited, we slept in mountain motels or didn’t (one-day), with bags of sufficient supplies. This “river experience” was only recently.
If you don’t believe me, come visit and I’ll show you places where water actually is a liquid.
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terje_the_ma...
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posted November 17, 2004 11:58 AM |
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There is no such thing as water. There is only snow and ice
@Daddy: Rügen is to the east of Hamburg, I think. I always mix up Hamburg and Lübeck, for some reason... That's why I wrote close.
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