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Helldragon
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posted March 04, 2005 03:05 PM |
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Poll Question:
please take this poll
i have a persuasive essay due on monday march 7 on having the phrase "under God" in the Pledge. For the power point part of the project, i need to have "statistics". so i decided to take a poll here. PLEASE HELP!
if you have any comments dont be afraid, i might even add your quote to my project!
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Jebus
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posted March 04, 2005 03:10 PM |
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You may need to mention if you're accepting votes from people around the globe or stricly American members...
As a Canadian I'm not sure my opinion on what your pledge should be is appropriate....
(you COULD ask people who pole to say where they are from and then your pole would reflect opinions from around the world)
just a thought....
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Helldragon
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posted March 04, 2005 03:12 PM |
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thanx there
so yea if youre from other countries, you can name so and then i can have extra statistics. and if you feel like it, jebus, you can take the poll too.
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Jebus
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posted March 04, 2005 03:15 PM |
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Edited By: Jebus on 4 Mar 2005
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Quote:
thanx there
so yea if youre from other countries, you can name so and then i can have extra statistics. and if you feel like it, jebus, you can take the poll too.
Just wanted to ask before I did.....
(just to add, I'm a french catholic but don't feel that religious reference should be imposed on all citizens of a country... The freedom to choose is in our bill of rights therefore I find it inapropriate to be in a pledge of allegiance.)
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Consis
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posted March 04, 2005 03:24 PM |
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The American Religious Majority
We are a 76% christian majority country. Most of the majority are some form of Protestant. You will find literally thousands upon thousands of break-away protestant mini-churches who came up with their own name and have their little inner circle of so-called 'bible preachers'. This could be anything ranging from the larger Lutheran sects to smaller community-oriented/funded protestant buildings whose name/title was created by 1-2 generation pulpit preachers.
Basically, we have and unending supply of bible-fanatics who are strangley motivated to cutlivate their own loyal set of followers. This is why America is often referred to as the "kingdom of cults".
On a personal note, I must say that's why I respect the arguments of Lews_Therin. Whenever someone posts a bible quote or reference he is usually there to argue against. I find his arguments are largely based in sound logic most of the time. It's people like him that help balance the growing concern of countries like mine(America) where christian secularism runs rampant and practically out of control.
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Asmodean
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posted March 04, 2005 03:28 PM |
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Irish.
Raised Catholic.
Voted against.
Looking at America it seems hypocrytical of them to have this phrase in the pledge when in the Constitution it says that there should be separation of church and state.
Not an attack - just an observation.
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Lord_Woock
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posted March 04, 2005 03:42 PM |
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Poland here, voted against.
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guitarguy
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posted March 04, 2005 04:01 PM |
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For the record, I had to stay neutral on this one.
Edit: Hawaii, USA.
-guitarguy
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terje_the_ma...
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posted March 04, 2005 04:38 PM |
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We are a 76% christian majority country.
"A democracy can be judged by how it treats its minority." - Some clever fellow. 
So, Consis, are you for or against? I kinda got the imprassion that you're not too positive about it?
Anyway, my own opinion is negative.
There are many atheists who love their country as well, and if they'd been forced to swear alligeance to God to pledge themselves to their country, don't think they'd be too happy about it.
And I guess "patriots" belonging to other religions could be offended.
But of course, it only says "God", not which one....
(Though it's reasonable to assume that it's referred to the Christian one.  )
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Khaelo
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posted March 04, 2005 04:46 PM |
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Edited By: Khaelo on 4 Mar 2005
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Voted against.
USA.
Raised Catholic, now pagan.
The "under God" bit was added during the McCarthy scare in the 1950s. It has no business being there; it should be removed.
Edit: The people voting for the phrase have nothing to say?
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privatehudson
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posted March 04, 2005 07:36 PM |
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British and against. Nations have no business having a religion, it's a personal choice.
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Wiseman
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posted March 04, 2005 08:45 PM |
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Serbia and Montenegro. Against.
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2XtremeToTake
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posted March 04, 2005 08:49 PM |
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Mobile, Alabama USA
Against.
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Helldragon
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posted March 04, 2005 11:07 PM |
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just so we know, this poll is up until sunday night.
"And I guess "patriots" belonging to other religions could be offended.
But of course, it only says "God", not which one....
(Though it's reasonable to assume that it's referred to the Christian one. )"
typically when God is spelled with a capitalized "G" it is refering to the Christian god.
"The "under God" bit was added during the McCarthy scare in the 1950s. It has no business being there; it should be removed."
1952 to be exact...
teehee
and Consis, you seem to know alot...
from wat ive seen, not many americans are taking this poll, not that it matters, its just weird...
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Consis
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posted March 04, 2005 11:20 PM |
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Edited By: Consis on 4 Mar 2005
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Helldragon,
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From what I've seen not many Americans are taking this poll; not that it matters; it's just weird.
Have you been paying attention to the latest federal supreme court cases? Our country is about to decide(once again) exactly where the line is drawn in seperation of church and state. They're arguing over whether sculptures of the Ten Commandments should be allowed on state/federal-owned property. The outcome of this decision may directly affect the pledge of allegiance as well.
**sigh** Some threads I create might just as well be invisible.....
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privatehudson
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posted March 04, 2005 11:27 PM |
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Well let us hope that the proposals reject the idea of a country religion then Consis.
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Svarog
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posted March 05, 2005 02:09 AM |
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Against, of course. as a Macedonian atheist, its none of my concern, but if i were an american it would be discriminative against me.
Legally it's in direct contradiction with the US constitution.
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2XtremeToTake
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posted March 05, 2005 02:19 AM |
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ha though it wouldnt sound right
i was raised saying it with Under god
and i just said it out loud w/o it, it just sounds weird.
they need to add 3 syllables to replace it. It just sounds odd.
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Helldragon
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posted March 05, 2005 08:08 PM |
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ha it really does...
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privatehudson
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posted March 05, 2005 08:17 PM |
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Not being able to formulate good english in your pledge of alliegence is no excuse for a nation having a god though 
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