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Heroes Community > Tavern of the Rising Sun > Thread: Strategic Scenarios - How would you do it?
Thread: Strategic Scenarios - How would you do it?
2XtremeToTake
2XtremeToTake


Promising
Supreme Hero
posted June 22, 2005 10:02 PM

Strategic Scenarios - How would you do it?

Ok i've realized during my free time at school, i find myself coming up with strange ideas for military campaigns and scenarios that seem almost impossible, so i began writing them down. I have quite a few to share. So how many of you would make excellent generals. Heres how this game will work

* I Will give you exact details on what you have (troops under command, weapons, etc)
* There are five times the scenario can be in: Medieval, 1100-1300; Gunpowder Age, 1300-1500; The Age of Revolution, 1500-1920; The World at War, 1920-1960; The espionage age, 1970-Present.
* You will have one or several objectives to complete
* The scenarios range from 3 members on your squad, or an entire army
* Post your strategy, and i will rate it on a scale of 1-10, 1 being the worst and ten being the best
* The strategy's will be based on probable casulties, reality..(Ex. Your army surviving a nuclear blast isnt very realistic) and originality.
* It is up to you what the opponent does, but make it realistic. If you send a 12 man sniper team to atagonize a villiage, the nation isnt going to send their entire army to find them.

So here's the first scenario

Scenario 1
Times: The World At War
Difficulty: Hard


Your Command:

5,000 GI's
56 Light Tanks
30 Heavy Tanks
21 Heavy Artillery
20 old British Spitfires
1 B-52 Flying Fortress armed with one 1600 lb warhead
1 Atomic Warhead

Scenario:
This is an alternate WWII. The germans have occupied Washington D.C., The roads are clear. You and your small army are stranded in a small fort in Southern Virginia, unknown to the enemy. Launching your only nuclear missle would reaveal your position. The enemy has in their command

14,000 GI's
180 Light Tanks
129 Heavy Tanks
31 Heavy Artillery
An Anti-Aircraft Towers (Think Missle Turrets from Starcraft) every 300 yards circling the perimeter of the entire city


Other Rules/Info
The Capitol must NOT be destroyed
AA Guns will quickly shoot down aircraft
Light tanks move faster but have less armor and less firepower
Heavy tanks move slower but are heavily armored and have more firepower
The Anti-Aircraft Towers are powered by a central power plant
Tanks, GI and Artillery cannot shoot down aircraft.

Good Luck!





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2XtremeToTake
2XtremeToTake


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Supreme Hero
posted June 22, 2005 11:37 PM

Nobody? come on we must have some great strategic minds?

Are you all stumped? Lazy? Tired? Stupid? What?
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a_rebirthing_flight


Supreme Hero
with rebirthing power
posted June 22, 2005 11:52 PM

ill have a go but in a few hours
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2XtremeToTake
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Supreme Hero
posted June 23, 2005 01:39 PM

Come on, i know we must have some great masterminds on HC.
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a_rebirthing_flight


Supreme Hero
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posted June 23, 2005 02:33 PM

heres what i got. first u get a light tank and 30 men to go down a road heading for the AA(s)

to the side of the road u get 2 groups of 30 men on each side. the men with the tank make a diversion by shooting nothing. when the enemy leaves the AA the groups on each side go through and disable/destroy the AA.

then these 4 groups of 30 keep going until they reach enemy forces. if tanks are found they will then send the position back to HQ. HQ will then bomb this area using the plane.

if men are found beyond the AA then the groups will send back an estimate and we will send in double to over run the enemies.

this is all i have so can u rate this and tell if its realistic then i will continue
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2XtremeToTake
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Promising
Supreme Hero
posted June 23, 2005 02:35 PM

Quote:
heres what i got. first u get a light tank and 30 men to go down a road heading for the AA(s)

to the side of the road u get 2 groups of 30 men on each side. the men with the tank make a diversion by shooting nothing. when the enemy leaves the AA the groups on each side go through and disable/destroy the AA.

then these 4 groups of 30 keep going until they reach enemy forces. if tanks are found they will then send the position back to HQ. HQ will then bomb this area using the plane.

if men are found beyond the AA then the groups will send back an estimate and we will send in double to over run the enemies.

this is all i have so can u rate this and tell if its realistic then i will continue


Uh, in case you havent forgotten your outnumbered 3 to 1. A group of 30 men would easily be taken out by 2 or 3 tanks.... I give your strategy a 4/10, but thx for trying.

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a_rebirthing_flight


Supreme Hero
with rebirthing power
posted June 23, 2005 02:38 PM

Quote:
first u get a light tank and 30 men to go down a road heading for the AA(s)


if this is the part u are talking about then i will make it clearer. these guys are diversions to let the other guys through. they are sacrifices
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2XtremeToTake
2XtremeToTake


Promising
Supreme Hero
posted June 23, 2005 08:24 PM

Quote:
heres what i got. first u get a light tank and 30 men to go down a road heading for the AA(s)

to the side of the road u get 2 groups of 30 men on each side. the men with the tank make a diversion by shooting nothing. when the enemy leaves the AA the groups on each side go through and disable/destroy the AA.

then these 4 groups of 30 keep going until they reach enemy forces. if tanks are found they will then send the position back to HQ. HQ will then bomb this area using the plane.

if men are found beyond the AA then the groups will send back an estimate and we will send in double to over run the enemies.

this is all i have so can u rate this and tell if its realistic then i will continue


More detailed review.

Ok first of all, every tank is unlikely to be in one spot, so with your ONE bomb, you arent gonna destroy any more than 50 tanks...

How will you send in double when your outnumbered 3 to 1?

Remember People, every AA gun is powered by one central power plant, and you dont have fighters for nothing.

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2XtremeToTake
2XtremeToTake


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Supreme Hero
posted June 23, 2005 11:47 PM

Come on, people, is this one too hard for you all? If it is post so, i mean i KNOW people are reading it, i have seen you on the Who's Online list. Give me some sort of feedback, do you not get it? are you a poor stratigist? Is this Scenario too hard? RAWR


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a_rebirthing_flight


Supreme Hero
with rebirthing power
posted June 24, 2005 02:44 AM

sorry. i thought it said 1,400 not 14,000.

im sorry but i dont think this game is that easy. uu just saud that the AA are powered by one plant. how are we meant to know this. for me this would be impossible to do without a map
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2XtremeToTake
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Supreme Hero
posted June 24, 2005 03:33 AM

Read the original map description carefully.

I started you guys out with a hard scenario, but lets give it a few days see if anyone can come up with one.

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2XtremeToTake
2XtremeToTake


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Supreme Hero
posted June 24, 2005 09:19 PM

If  I post a new scenario, will you guys at least try?!
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tigris
tigris


Supreme Hero
Supreme Noobolator
posted June 24, 2005 11:52 PM
Edited By: tigris on 24 Jun 2005

how about you post a heroes related one this time ?

as a side note i don't think there is any chance to win without using the nuke warhead on those tanks.So i'd say you'll need a diversion to lure the enemy troops out of their dispositive, thus getting rid of the carefully prepared Anti-aircraft measures and avoiding to distroy Washington.To realise this diversion you will need to march all your light tanks towards enemy lines until they are noticed and then return only to lure enemy troops in a right spot.(such as a swamp or a rough mountain area where armoured vehicles can travel slow)As the use of an atomic bomb cannot be combined wuth further ground actions, you'll need to outspeed the enemy and run for cover just before you launch.

In the same time you need to get yor infantry, spitters and and heavy tanks on the move towards washington to squash the remaining enemy troops there(anti aircraft canons suck against tanks). You'll need to fall from behind so you'll attack from the opposite direction your light tanks came.This is the liberation army.You don't need the heavy artillery cos you don't want to build your own capital, so that and a small part of your infantery can remain to defend the current position in southern virginia.
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2XtremeToTake
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Supreme Hero
posted June 25, 2005 12:34 AM

Ah Tigris, very well thought out and planned. Thank you

8/10

The solution i originally came up with

ok i stated the roads around the city are clear, and the anti-aircraft guns are only on the perimeter, right?

Leave your nuclear weapon in virginia, along with a few men i suppose to detonate it. Take every one of your troops around DC, up into Philadelphia or somewhere above it. When  they are all safely up in Philadelphia, explode the bomb in virginia, away from the capital. Startled, the enemy should send around 40-50% of their troops to investigate.

Then, i would send in my artillery, tanks and men to take out the AA guns in a certian spot, clearing a small path for the B52. Also remember i said Tanks, Artillery and Men cannot take out aircraft. Send the B52 in to the central power plant to take out the central power plant. Once the AA guns are disabled, send your spitters in to have a killfest with the remaining tanks, artillery and men. Once you clear about 30% of the remaining army, send in your ground forces as a cleanup crew. Washington DC is yours!

Now defending it is the hard part
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a_rebirthing_flight


Supreme Hero
with rebirthing power
posted June 25, 2005 03:13 AM

could u provide a map next time even if it is a 2 year old drawing in paint, i donnot live in america and i would not know anything about terrain, hills, cliffs, power plants or other states

and i agree with tigris, a heroes map would be alot better
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Supreme Hero
posted June 25, 2005 09:24 AM

um...no heroes...Ill post the new scenario tommorow.
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tigris
tigris


Supreme Hero
Supreme Noobolator
posted June 25, 2005 10:08 PM

Quote:

Leave your nuclear weapon in virginia, along with a few men i suppose to detonate it. Take every one of your troops around DC, up into Philadelphia or somewhere above it. When  they are all safely up in Philadelphia, explode the bomb in virginia, away from the capital. Startled, the enemy should send around 40-50% of their troops to investigate.




Ok i'm not saying that my solution is the best, but..
about this one:

-To detonate a nuclear weapon isn't as easy as it seems, to have control over the detonation itself is even harder.

-Let's assume you manage to pull this off.The whole area should be now contaminated with uranium or plutonium radiations. So detecting a nuclear explosion, your opponent wouldn't make the mistake of sending half his army to be exposed to such radiations.If i were in this position i would send some NBC(nuclear,biological,chemical) patrols with experts in that matter to check things out.What's the point of sending an army on a spot where a nuke was detonated and where you know that all has beed distroyed already?

-Furthermore, you have no guarantee that the opponent will undergo such an action, so basically when attacking the capital you won't have a clue what you will be faced with.

Just my 2 cents right there
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a_rebirthing_flight


Supreme Hero
with rebirthing power
posted June 26, 2005 03:31 AM

i think that we need someone to act as the enemy who will make logical desicions
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