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coman
Tavern Dweller
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posted August 30, 2005 06:21 PM |
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high scores
hey, anyone here knows what factors are used when calculating the high scores in heroes 3 so i could know exactly what i need to do to get a good score?
thanks.
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angelito
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
proud father of a princess
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posted August 30, 2005 06:46 PM |
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Base score is 250.
You have to conquer ALL towns and kill ALL enemies, if not, 25 points will be substracted.
You have to FIND the grail (by digging for it, conquering the town where the grail is built does NOT count!). If not, 25 points will be substracted.
Now there is a special maths including the number of towns existing on the map and the whole number of days u needed to finish the map. The result of that maths (itīs a division) will also be substracted.
Now u get a final result which will be multiplied with a factor refering to the difficulty level u played the map. If u played it on 200%, the score will be doubled. If u played it on 130%, it will be multiplied with 1.3.
The maximum score u can reach is 498 (500 only in theory...)
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pitsu
Adventuring Hero
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posted August 31, 2005 09:42 AM |
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Score = (200-(days+10)/(castles+5)+A+B)*factor
A= 25 if your side (alone or with allies) kills all enemies (standart victory condition)
B= 25 if you (allies do not count) dig up the Grail
"days" of course is the time spent, and "castles" the number of towns you (allies do not count) own.
factor:
Easy= 0,8
Normal= 1,0
Hard= 1,3
Expert= 1,6
Impossible= 2,0
Everything is operated in integers. If the time/castles factor equals to 3.983 it is truncated to 3 prior continuing with calculations.
Maps with special victory conditions (capture a town, transfer an artifact etc) sometimes do not allow standart victory bonus (which is kill all enemies).
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coman
Tavern Dweller
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posted September 01, 2005 06:43 PM |
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Edited By: coman on 1 Sep 2005
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do you have to conquer neutral towns to get "A"?
and what about campaigns and hot seat?
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pitsu
Adventuring Hero
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posted September 01, 2005 08:24 PM |
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Edited By: pitsu on 1 Sep 2005
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do you have to conquer neutral towns to get "A"?
Go for neutral towns as well. It matters not who owns the towns in the begin of cenario. Any town in your color counts in final score. EDIT: eh, misread your question. To get "all enemies defeated" bonus you do not need to conquer neutral towns.
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and what about campaigns and hot seat?
Campaign score is the average of all individual map scores mulitplied by 5. Honestly no idea why with 5 not with 7 or 10 for example.
Hot seat situations are described in previous post. If you are allies, time and defeat enemies are the same for both team members. Number of towns and digging for grail make a difference. If you want to calculate score for loser (non allied hot seat), then number of towns is obviously 0 and "defeated all enemies" cannot apply.
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coman
Tavern Dweller
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posted September 01, 2005 11:46 PM |
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thanks a lot.
just last question, if you're allied with another human player on a hot seat do both of your scores get added together or averaged to get the final score, or only player with the highest score makes final and ally's score gets dropped?
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pitsu
Adventuring Hero
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posted September 02, 2005 09:30 AM |
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Must admit that that have not played allied hotseat myself 
I know that scores for both players are calculated separately and I believe that both are also added to the score table (as long as the score is good enough to fit in there).
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matkov
Hired Hero
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posted September 02, 2005 11:26 AM |
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Must admit that that have not played allied hotseat myself
I know that scores for both players are calculated separately and I believe that both are also added to the score table (as long as the score is good enough to fit in there).
I've played several games hotseat allied with my fiance and you get just one result after the game which is written into hall of fame.
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Have a nice day.
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pitsu
Adventuring Hero
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posted September 02, 2005 12:42 PM |
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OK, if it is one score then it is one score. Can you also figure out how is it calculated?
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matkov
Hired Hero
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posted September 02, 2005 01:11 PM |
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I have no idea. I know the formula, but as we played just for fun (she doesn't play well) we played both together against computer at 130 so the score was really low.
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coman
Tavern Dweller
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posted September 03, 2005 10:25 AM |
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where did you get those formulas anyway?
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tiho
Hired Hero
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posted September 28, 2005 01:00 PM |
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High scores are made very unrealistic because time has great effect on high score.
For example you can make random map (Single map with no underground) and finish this map on couple of days (in week one) and even with impossible or better on hard you get very high scores.
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Xarfax111
Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
The last hero standing
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posted September 28, 2005 01:40 PM |
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Quote:
High scores are made very unrealistic because time has great effect on high score.
For example you can make random map (Single map with no underground) and finish this map on couple of days (in week one) and even with impossible or better on hard you get very high scores.
...yes thats soo true!
You can also run to a soccerground and shoot some goals!! Guess what!?? Youll win at least wiht 20:0 !!! wow that will impress me the same!
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GabyStan
Known Hero
Seeking Wisdom
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posted September 28, 2005 04:15 PM |
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Tiho, you're confusing us, that's why Xarfax reacted like that. You prolly mean time is not that important in Heroes 3 (as in Heroes 2, where time is EVERYTHING), even if you win in 2 days on 200% won't get such a high score (can't get grail and at the same time defeat all enemies and conquer more than 1 extra town etc.). I got very frustrated at first for my poor achievements in Campaigns, so replayed for a much shorter time and gained only 5 points or 10 at most. That's because number of days get divided, and the more you play the more towns you conquer, so you may gain points instead of losing for every extra week spent (not that hard to make those calculations, is it?). I suppose the multiplying by 5 is only to obtain in the end a round result.
Still, I have a Q here (and am a bit lazy to check it up myself lol): is the original home town included in the equation or only the ones you conquer count?
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sarleng
Tavern Dweller
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posted September 30, 2005 10:17 AM |
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Tiho, you're confusing us, that's why Xarfax reacted like that. You prolly mean time is not that important in Heroes 3 (as in Heroes 2, where time is EVERYTHING), even if you win in 2 days on 200% won't get such a high score (can't get grail and at the same time defeat all enemies and conquer more than 1 extra town etc.). I got very frustrated at first for my poor achievements in Campaigns, so replayed for a much shorter time and gained only 5 points or 10 at most. That's because number of days get divided, and the more you play the more towns you conquer, so you may gain points instead of losing for every extra week spent (not that hard to make those calculations, is it?). I suppose the multiplying by 5 is only to obtain in the end a round result.
Still, I have a Q here (and am a bit lazy to check it up myself lol): is the original home town included in the equation or only the ones you conquer count?
Oh.. they include your starting town for that formular...
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GabyStan
Known Hero
Seeking Wisdom
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posted September 30, 2005 10:53 AM |
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Thanks, Sarleng!
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durell
Adventuring Hero
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posted October 01, 2005 04:50 PM |
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the easiest highscore i ever got was on a ROE map called"Good To Go"....on this map you start with everything prebuilt in your town as do your 3 ai opponents play it on 200% and hammer ur opponents week1 or early week 2 to be ranked as an Archangel....nice easy win if its important for ya to show the AI who's boss.
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Sirus_Wraith
Tavern Dweller
Keeper of Balance
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posted November 06, 2005 04:50 AM |
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Yes! Finally right subject...Right now that I know how to get a good score (thanks a bunch!) umm how do they determine the creature that they give you? Like I have been given a medusa and a crusader...but could you get something like an angel or something?
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GabyStan
Known Hero
Seeking Wisdom
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posted November 06, 2005 07:50 PM |
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Yes! Finally right subject...Right now that I know how to get a good score (thanks a bunch!) umm how do they determine the creature that they give you? Like I have been given a medusa and a crusader...but could you get something like an angel or something?
Sure Sirus_Wraith, the best you can get is an Archangel. The ranking order you can find here. But for the High score list take out the outside dwelling creatures (non-native ones, found in castles, you know...).
Good luck! 
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Tiho
Hired Hero
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posted November 07, 2005 02:14 PM |
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Well I don't know maybe my version of wog is different from yours, but I achieved result 450 on small map day 4.I didn't visited any dragon utopias or so
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