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Thread: List of heroes who can never get their ultimate ability
SuicidalNecro
SuicidalNecro


Hired Hero
posted June 05, 2006 06:22 PM

List of heroes who can never get their ultimate ability

These heroes, due to starting with a skill, but not the right skill ability, will never be able to get their ultimate. I did not include campaign heroes.

DO NOT TAKE ANY OF THE THESE HEROES IF YOU WISH TO GET ULTIMATE SKILL

Haven
Irina

Inferno
Nebiros
Nymus

Necropolis
Zoltan

Dungeon
Yrwanna

Academy
Narxes
Nur

Sylvan
Anwen
Gilraen
Ossir
Wyngaal

Considering each faction has 8 heroes at their disposal, Sylvan obviously is the worst off.
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Guldan
Guldan


Adventuring Hero
Soon to be banned...........
posted June 06, 2006 03:58 AM

There is this necklace right? which gives +1 to the primairie skill of a hero, with that you can alwyas get ultimate i think. And could you explain a bit more better why these hero's can get ultimate? I do not exactly understand what you mean with: "due to starting with a skill, but not the right skill ability".

But good info!

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Vicheron
Vicheron


Known Hero
posted June 06, 2006 04:34 AM

In order for you to get Nature's Luck you need Vitality -> Last Stand -> Stand Your Ground abilities from the Defense secondary ability. Anwen starts with Basic Defense and Protection which means that she can never get Stand Your Grand and therefore can never get Nature's Luck.

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SuicidalNecro
SuicidalNecro


Hired Hero
posted June 06, 2006 05:13 AM

As Vicheron mentioned, you are limited to 3 abilities per skill.
If you need Battle Frenzy, Nature's Wrath and Flaming Arrows for those 3 slots, but you start with Archery, you'll have no slot available for Flaming Arrows which is required in the chain.

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Guldan
Guldan


Adventuring Hero
Soon to be banned...........
posted June 06, 2006 05:16 AM

Ah, i see, i understand now Good to know this info, keep up the good work!

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Gnoll_Mage
Gnoll_Mage


Responsible
Supreme Hero
posted June 06, 2006 11:57 AM

Why did I think the limit was 4 per skill?
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Krytain
Krytain

Tavern Dweller
posted June 11, 2006 12:05 AM

personally I really dislike the idea that a hero can never get the ultimate ability. They should change it so that you can pick which skill you wish to start with, for example, if a hero were to start with defense, instead of just giving him protection, let him choose from protection/evasion/vitality. Or you could have some way of being able to change you skills around via a special building, pay a small fine or something. Another idea, but maybe cause balancing issues is to allow the picking of 1 skill and 1 ability to start with, rather than a predetermined set.

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weakofrabbits
weakofrabbits


Hired Hero
posted November 02, 2006 09:14 AM

zoltan has the spell bloc ability
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PhoenixReborn
PhoenixReborn


Promising
Legendary Hero
Unicorn
posted November 02, 2006 09:26 PM

So there is ultimate ability, a skill which is what the list is about...for example wizard's can pick arcane omniscience, all spells mastery.

Then there is ultimate racial skill, i.e. ultimate artificer artifacts at half cost which requires the pendant of mastery +1 skill level.

I personally have never tried for the ultimate on any map ever.  Waste of time.
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torvaldur
torvaldur

Tavern Dweller
posted November 07, 2006 04:34 PM

I've never gotten the so called ultimate skill even though I've tried that lately. Is there any special strategy to get it or do I need luck? Often when I level up, the only skills/abilities I can choose is those that aren't needed for the ultimate and therefore fills all the spots for the needed skills/abilities. Is there any special order in which you should choose them?
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damedley
damedley

Tavern Dweller
posted November 20, 2006 05:54 AM

Quote:
I've never gotten the so called ultimate skill even though I've tried that lately. Is there any special strategy to get it or do I need luck? Often when I level up, the only skills/abilities I can choose is those that aren't needed for the ultimate and therefore fills all the spots for the needed skills/abilities. Is there any special order in which you should choose them?


I've been told the best way to go about it is to get the top-level skills (Destructive Magic, Luck, etc.) first whenever possible.  If you do that you'll have more choice in the sub-skills (Archery, Vitality, etc.) and should be pretty much guaranteed at least 1 along the Ultimate path.

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