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radar
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posted December 14, 2006 07:31 PM |
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hmm, forgot bout Fallen Angel. that is the most powerful level 7, life drain, way overpowered
no, they are not! life drain is instead ressurection. besides, if they are overpowered vampiers are too. but they aren't. life drain is proporcional to the creatures' tier.
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Homer171
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted December 14, 2006 11:20 PM |
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The life drain of Fallen Angels is ability what comes whit every strike. 50% of damage made comes back is way overpowered for lv7 creature. This is not problem tough when it's not actual town creature in the game i just don't see the point of that creature.
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Doomforge
Admirable
Undefeatable Hero
Retired Hero
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posted December 14, 2006 11:49 PM |
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death knights are way more overpowered and nobody complains 
What's wrong with 50% drain? it's ok for vamps, why it shouldn't be ok for fallen angels? Vampires are so weak in h5 (ahh, the good old h2&h3 times where they kicked butts so hard..) mainly because of the weakened drain, so I don't see a problem.
Besides, my usual anti-level7 dual pitlord+excruciating strike combo will own them quickly and easily, no matter how much HP they drain.
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Elvin
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Endless Revival
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posted December 15, 2006 12:28 AM |
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Well,fallen angels also have outrageously good att/def values as well as damage.Kill some,only for a part of them to be resurrected by the retaliation.Not invincible but a bit more powerful than most.
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Homer171
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Supreme Hero
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posted December 15, 2006 01:27 PM |
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Those Death knights are also some weird creatures! I haven't had them in my army but they could be very powerfull to have againts big stacks but fighting againts them haven't been so hard when they are quite weak creatures and i take them down by range creatures/no enemy retal or whit magics. Again neutral creature what are powerfull but don't really spoil the game cause you can't get them in any town.
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Doomforge
Admirable
Undefeatable Hero
Retired Hero
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posted December 15, 2006 03:13 PM |
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and so you can't get fallen angels in town, yet you think they are overpowered..
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Homer171
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted December 15, 2006 04:07 PM |
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and so you can't get fallen angels in town, yet you think they are overpowered..
Well they are combared to other lv7 creatures but who cares when they arent in any town creatures
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TheDeath
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Undefeatable Hero
with serious business
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posted December 15, 2006 04:14 PM |
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This game is imbalanced, IMHO.
Black Dragons have very high stats, at least higher than Titans, but why do they cost less?? 4500 gold < 4700 gold.
Emerald Dragons cost 4700 gold, but may be tough because of their initiative.
Anyway, the Archangel is the BEST cheater!! it costs only 4200 gold, imagine that! And it is like the Archdevil (4666 gold), or even better (no, I'm not a Haven lover, in fact I'm annoyed by this "angel" cheater). You guys say that your Marksmen make your Angels useless, but why don't you imagine having Devils instead of Angels in your Haven town.. they would make Devils even more useless than Angels (at least those can ressurect fallen marksmen).. In short, Devils cannot possibly be better than angels. They may have the same "power", however due to their "very cheap" cost, the angels are better (in fact, it's cheating, imbalanced) and makes them the cheapest tier 7 unit, except Spectral dragons, of course.
Also the Phoenix has an Initiative of 19 (wow), however it costs 10000 gold so I think they exaggerated a bit here, especially given that they cannot be recruited in your own town. Not worth the price, IMHO.
I hate things that "depend" on stacks non-linearly, or simply make "splitting" or "joining" more better. It simply isn't fair in my opinion. For example, the Death Knights special is more useful against larger stacks -- the Druid's Mana Feed is best when you have only 1 druid in stack, etc.. and the worst of all, that idiotic "spellpower" formula, because it uses Logarithms, instead of linear equations!! this means, the more units you have in a stack, the harder the spellpower will grow.
just my 2 cents.
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Doomforge
Admirable
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Retired Hero
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posted December 15, 2006 04:21 PM |
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This game is imbalanced, IMHO.
Black Dragons have very high stats, at least higher than Titans, but why do they cost less?? 4500 gold < 4700 gold.
Emerald Dragons cost 4700 gold, but may be tough because of their initiative.
Anyway, the Archangel is the BEST cheater!! it costs only 4200 gold, imagine that! And it is like the Archdevil (4666 gold), or even better (no, I'm not a Haven lover, in fact I'm annoyed by this "angel" cheater). You guys say that your Marksmen make your Angels useless, but why don't you imagine having Devils instead of Angels in your Haven town.. they would make Devils even more useless than Angels (at least those can ressurect fallen marksmen).. In short, Devils cannot possibly be better than angels. They may have the same "power", however due to their "very cheap" cost, the angels are better (in fact, it's cheating, imbalanced) and makes them the cheapest tier 7 unit, except Spectral dragons, of course.
Is 4666 or 4200 that much od a difference? I dont think so, it's only 11% more. And I'm going to repeat myself, I'd choose Devils over Angels any time , so it's perfectly fair for me and perhaps for Nival too.
Devils would benefit haven town more than angels, too - Because their damage isn't set at certain value. DivineGuidance doesn't work on Angels, but it works well for Devils. (logical idiocy, but who cares)
And with inquisitors possesing advanced divine guidance, Devils would be a bigger threat than they are when led by demonlords.
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and the worst of all, that idiotic "spellpower" formula, because it uses Logarithms, instead of linear equations!! this means, the more units you have in a stack, the harder the spellpower will grow.
Well that is supposed to be the feature to keep casters balanced, otherwise they would be way too strong in the endgame.
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TheDeath
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
with serious business
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posted December 15, 2006 04:32 PM |
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You forgot about Dark magic opposites like Weakness, which makes Devils inferior.
And about the spellcasters: why should they be "weaker" when I spent a great deal of money and growth "linearly" and I get a "logarithmic" result? It's annoying when the "normal attack" is better than a destructive spell, like the Druid's Lightning bolt (when you have many druids, it's better to attack "normally").
That 11% difference is more than a Vampire Lord, so if you say Zombies are not worth the "money" (not growth), then the difference is quite significant.
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Doomforge
Admirable
Undefeatable Hero
Retired Hero
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posted December 15, 2006 04:36 PM |
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Nope. You say we all would want archangels rather than archdevils in the haven town and I say no. Weakness has nothing to do with it, because who would want to cast weakness on arch devils with 2 stacks of inquisitors ready to counter-bless them, in case the hero wants to cast other spell?
besides, 400 gold more doesn't mean too much since you can only buy 2 of these units @ week.
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TheDeath
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
with serious business
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posted December 15, 2006 04:48 PM |
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I never said you would "want" angels more than devils, I said it's annoying that Angels are cheaper than devils. Casting Weakness with a hero, say a Knight, is a useful concept since Spellpower is not his primary strength anyway.
I know the difference is not MUCH, but why the heck is it anyway? shouldn't it be supposed to be "balanced" at least (even for 1 gold  ).
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