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Jinxer
Legendary Hero
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posted September 12, 2006 10:24 PM |
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Cleansing and PuppetMaster
Was curious why cleansing doesnt cleanse puppet master? Could someone enlighten me?
Thanks
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Lord_Crusader
Promising
Supreme Hero
UHU!! supreme!
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posted September 12, 2006 10:29 PM |
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maybe for the level of the spells??? I think is something like protection for magic spell in heroes 3... if you don't have expert earth magic then the spell didn't protect of the higher level spells
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Dig Out Your Soul
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Xarfax111
Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
The last hero standing
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posted September 12, 2006 10:46 PM |
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you mean antimagic..not protection of...
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Lord_Crusader
Promising
Supreme Hero
UHU!! supreme!
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posted September 12, 2006 10:53 PM |
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Quote:
you mean antimagic..not protection of...
exactly 
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Dig Out Your Soul
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Betruger
Known Hero
empowered mind
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posted September 13, 2006 12:40 AM |
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Because it all depends on heroes' levels, and light magic mastery.
According to this fan made manual it's like this:
total dispel chance = base_chance% + 3% * (Dispeller_Level - Caster_Level)
where base_chance% is:
40% - no mastery
60% - basic light magic
80% - adv
100% - expert
The game mechanics is pretty well explained in this mentioned manual.
I reccomend it.
ftp://ftp.ubi.com/emea/homm5/community/Heroes5_Manual_en.zip
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Jinxer
Legendary Hero
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posted September 13, 2006 01:21 AM |
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I was expert and you said thats 100% ??
Obviously I missed something.
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Betruger
Known Hero
empowered mind
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posted September 13, 2006 01:55 AM |
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Edited by Betruger at 01:58, 13 Sep 2006.
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well 100% is base chance.
If your opponent was, say, 5 levels higher than you, then it's
100% - 3 * 5% = 85%
Maybe you were unlucky 
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Jinxer
Legendary Hero
*****
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posted September 13, 2006 02:50 AM |
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Edited by Jinxer at 02:57, 13 Sep 2006.
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Yet another retarded aspect of H5... the spell should cleanse PERIOD. Why would I waste a valuable cast turn on a spell that may or may NOT work... lol how retarded. sigh...
I can see it now....Jinxer goes to cast Resurection at a crucial point in game...his hero winds up...the magic aura begins to form..............and.......and....... *spudder* *spudder* NOTHING happens... game over... ohh well better luck next time lol. Game of strategy reduced to roll fo dice. Nice
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Ghasteater
Known Hero
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posted September 13, 2006 06:54 AM |
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Yet another retarded aspect of H5... the spell should cleanse PERIOD. Why would I waste a valuable cast turn on a spell that may or may NOT work... lol how retarded. sigh...
If Thorgrim Cast Mass Haste (in HOMM3) do you try counter its effect with mass slow?
Also if you have master of blessings mass cleansing use only Half-period of time
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Betruger
Known Hero
empowered mind
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posted September 15, 2006 12:36 AM |
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Yeah, and you can always cast magic immunity if you want to be sure
After all, it'd make Puppet Master completly useless if even low level hero could dispell it at 100% chance with a 2nd level spell.
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Jinxer
Legendary Hero
*****
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posted September 15, 2006 01:55 AM |
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Edited by Jinxer at 02:59, 15 Sep 2006.
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And like wise the fact that you cannot dispel it makes it WAY to strong.
In Heroes 3 Dispel worked 100% of time. And H3 game worked great.
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Betruger
Known Hero
empowered mind
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posted September 15, 2006 06:22 AM |
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But then again, in Heroes 3 hypnosion did not lower target's initiative
But what's the big deal? If your hero is of the same level as opponent's, it's 100% chance to dispel.
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