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posted May 12, 2007 04:31 AM

I think all the problems could be solved with easier moding and mapmaking.  If they release(d) moding tools, even if it was only 2: for creatures and for spells it would be enough.  People with Radar would be able to hack into it and make a Hero, City, and Special Abilities maker, and eventually a campaign animation creator.
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posted May 14, 2007 04:30 AM

Of course. There should be good mod tools, preferrably deep yet user-friendly.
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posted May 14, 2007 04:52 AM

Spore, anyone?  

(If you don't know what I'm talking about, spore is an upcoming (eventually) game that allows you to make your own creature from a variety of body parts, and add acutrements and weapons.  a dummied down version of that that had panels for

Eyes/Nose/Mouth/Ears
Limbs
Hands/Feet
Clothing
Weapons
<Advanced>
  Spline Modeling
  Hand Animation
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Textures
Clothing Textures

would be just great)
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posted June 15, 2007 09:21 AM

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I like the 3D system.
Personally, I don't know what problems it can cause. (except system requirements)
I mean, you say: "I have to rotate to see some things", but what's the problem if you rotate? Why you have to rush a game so badly that you click End Turn in 1 minute?


exactly.. what's the rush? That turns the game into some sort of freaky speed run..

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posted June 15, 2007 06:41 PM

I really don't care if H6 will be 2D or 3D, but I want the gameplay to be quick, like the previous titles. I mean, the town rotation, the long animations, etc. in H5. Who really needs that? And it's really hard to see anything on the battlefield or on the adventure map. I don't care if H6 is 2D or 3D but it needs to have everything visible.
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posted June 15, 2007 06:45 PM

I wish they would keep the town rotation so it keeps going, even after you click.  Since everything can be accessed through the buttons, we do not need to click the structures.
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posted June 15, 2007 07:41 PM

No offence, people but I'd like it to stay 3D. What's wrong with it? You have to take longer? I just wouldn't like people racing for who gets their turns done first.

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posted June 18, 2007 02:47 AM

I don't care if it's 2D or 3D. I just don't want hour-long animations. I don't want an attack to take an hour. And I'm tired of not being able to see everything I need to on the adventure map.
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posted August 17, 2007 08:56 PM

Well, I personally really like the 3D Heroes5...I'd like it just as much in 2D, but hey, gotta move with the times, right?
The only thing that bugs me sometimes is when you're underground, and you can't click something because there's a cave wall in the way. It's a bit annoying to zoom and turn left or right just to click that gold pile...

Heroes 6? Well, I doubt it's going to be very good...Everyone's going to expect new things to try out, but I doubt Nival has what it takes to do that. They'll probably need to think of new creatures, magic, line-ups, abilities, and a good story...Sorry, but I doubt they can do that.

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posted August 17, 2007 10:13 PM

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new creatures, magic, line-ups, abilities, and a good story


New Creatures: Not really, baring new factions, I think we have good ones now.

Magic: Yes, twice the spells would be good.

Line Ups: See Creatures

Abilities: Only for new creatures and heroes, and they've done well up till now.

Story: They improved vastly from HV to HOF, and I think they will again by Tote.


What they really need that's new is a good, easy to script map editor, and more dragons.
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posted August 17, 2007 10:22 PM
Edited by xerox at 22:31, 17 Aug 2007.

I have some ideas for heroes 6.

Spell Schools= Earth, Air, Fire, Water, Light, Darkness
Expanisions=2
Expanision Spell Schools= Mystic Magic

Haven becomes a bandit type of town. The Griffin Empire has fallen apart.

Inferno demones becomes dark shadowdemones.

The Sylvan Wood Elves becomes magical High Elfs.

The Wizards of the Academy has been transformed into bird men and plan to move their cities to distant lands.

The Dark Elfs of Dungeon has been exterminated by the Faceless and their "zerg/insect".

The Dwarfs has join and ancient faction of giants, valkyrs, trolls etc.

The Orcs has splitted and does no longer exist.

Naga has risen from the seas.

Many of the Angels and superholy priests has moved to the necropolis an the undead. The priests has become Shadowpriests and the angels Deathlords and Fallen Angels.
The weak skeletal dragons has been removed.

Heroes 6 Bandit/Haven Faction creatures:

1. Bandit/Master Rogue
2. Wolf/Werewolf
3. Hunter/Bounty Hunter
4. Outrider/Raider
5. Wanderer/Druid Master
6. Roc/Thunderbird
7. Lightbringer/Avatar of Elrath

High Elves

1. Faire/Faire Princess
2. Apperientce/Spellwarrior
3. Manaseeker/Arcane Destroyer
4. Pegasi Rider/Silver Rider
5. Mage/Soceress
6. Unicorn/Enchanted Unicorn
7. Firebird/Phoenix

Norse/Dwarfs (i had a list for this but i dont remember everything)

1. Wolf/Fenris Ulv/Worg (that swedish, but maybe the word ulv exist in english ;P)
2. Axeman/Berserker
3. Einhar/??? dont remeber
4. Valkyr/Lifebringer
5. Troll/Stone Troll
6. Giant/Fire or Frost Giant
7. Chaos Serpent/Nidhogg

I have a lot more ideas, this was only a part of them.

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posted August 17, 2007 10:26 PM

Uh, it's elrath.
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posted August 17, 2007 10:33 PM

oops fixed. Sadly i am not very good in the heroes lore...
The only thing i know is the history of heroes 3 and 5.
Added norse creatures (hmm, i think i will change einhar to viking, after all i am from sweden).

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posted August 17, 2007 10:37 PM

...When I said new line-up, I didn't mean a completely new game series...
It's just a bit too much...I mean, you pretty much changed every single concept in the game. You made the elves magical, and turned Academy into a bird faction...I sense over-plotting...
Haven into bandits, angels to necro?!
Too much change, that's just not HOMM anymore...

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posted August 17, 2007 10:54 PM

Agreed.  Creatures that should always be in a town:

Haven: Crusader/horse ridey people, Angels.
Sylvan: Unicorns
Academy: Titan
Inferno: Cerebus, Devil
Necropolis: Lich, [some form of ghost or spectre], skeleton
Dungeon: Black Dragon

Also, it's Enherjar and Valkyrie.  I still like the concept, though I did one.
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posted August 17, 2007 11:01 PM

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Agreed.  Creatures that should always be in a town:

Haven: Crusader/horse ridey people, Angels.
Sylvan: Unicorns
Academy: Titan
Inferno: Cerebus, Devil
Necropolis: Lich, [some form of ghost or spectre], skeleton
Dungeon: Black Dragon

Also, it's Enherjar and Valkyrie.  I still like the concept, though I did one.


Things You forgot: (in my personal opinion)
Sylvan: Elvan archers (classic one!)
Academy: I wouldn't say the titan, but more the gremlin and golem...

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posted August 17, 2007 11:05 PM

Maybe your right

But i think there should be templars and paladins in haven faction (without horses -.-).

Yes it is valkyr too. Its just another name for them.
Lol i want h6 now!

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posted August 17, 2007 11:37 PM

I don't know about gremlins.  I agree with you, though they are not strictly classics (only in 2/4) but deffinitly golemzes.
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posted September 22, 2007 06:47 PM

Xerox, this thread is for my H6 proposals. Post yours somewhere else, please.
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posted September 22, 2007 08:34 PM

Why do you even care about something that is 1 month old?
I didnt even read the master post and if you look closly you can find that i have my own HoMM 6 thread.

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