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Thread: Welcome to HoMM3 tournament - World Cup league! This thread is 15 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 · «PREV / NEXT»
maretti
maretti


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Supreme Hero
posted December 30, 2006 01:02 PM
Edited by maretti at 13:05, 30 Dec 2006.

You forget hit and run, red rush, necromancing, joiners and scrolls.
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black_knight
black_knight


Known Hero
LT League
posted December 30, 2006 02:32 PM

And where is dvelling's or no grail rules :]

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SAG
SAG


Promising
Supreme Hero
WCL owner
posted December 30, 2006 03:17 PM

rules  will contain descriptions of all most common rules, mandatory part and recommendations.

tourney is OPENED now! Good luck to all!

P.S. i will continue updating site after January 11, now busy.

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Ecoris
Ecoris


Promising
Supreme Hero
posted December 30, 2006 06:52 PM

Quote:
You forget hit and run, red rush, necromancing, joiners and scrolls.
I guess the rules about necromancing, joiners and scrolls are implemented in the template, but what about the others, could you be more specific?

Your rating system is good btw.

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maretti
maretti


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Supreme Hero
posted December 31, 2006 01:07 AM

Quote:
Quote:
You forget hit and run, red rush, necromancing, joiners and scrolls.
I guess the rules about necromancing, joiners and scrolls are implemented in the template, but what about the others, could you be more specific?



I forgot about no grail too.

About necromancing: The only thing I can think of in this regard, that is implemented in the template, is that you cant get necro towns if you start with random town. But you can pick necro as starting town, which this rule dosent forbid. What you cant do however is raise skeletons with the necromancing skill. 2000 skellies in your army is a very unbalancing factor whatever town you play.

About joiners: This rule is about one specific situation. Some creature doubling at the beginning of a new month. Some of these will join you, even if you dont have diplo. You are not allowed to accept them.

About scrolls: Normally lvl 4 and 5 scrolls are not allowed. The reson is that they are too light guarded. Getting town portal or implosion from beating horde imps is to easy.

No red rush means, that on day 1 of a new week, the red player (in a 2 player game) is not allowed to attack the blue player, with troops bought day 1. He is allowed to attack if he wants, he just cant use troops bought that day.
Imho this is not allowed either: On blockbuster or a similar temp, red uses new troops to kill the block (which he can only beat with new troops), then gives the new troops to a scout and then takes blues town.

The no hit and run rule has been discussed in another thread. There is no simple way to define it so ill refer to that thread.
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angelito
angelito

Hero of Order
proud father of a princess
posted December 31, 2006 01:34 AM

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You forget hit and run, red rush, necromancing, joiners and scrolls.
Not really.
- I don't care about joiners, coz u either rarely play till second month, and on the other hand, those joiners are lev 1-4 and are placed all over the map, so everyone could get some. I really don't care. And only the units which double ona first day of a new month could join without diplo (on a random map), all other units which are present since the very first day will never join.
- I never made a rule about scrolls either. You can find a tome in a warriors tomb aswell, which is not guarded at all. And no1 cares about that.
- I also never made a hit&run rule in a game, coz for me, this is part of honorable play. If someone thinks he has to hit and run me to win a game, I will say "Good game, I report my loss", and then will never play this guy/girl again. That easy. For me, there is no need to make a rule about that. People who use that tactic will be known pretty fast on Gamespy, and no1 will play them, so they will kick themselves out of the tourney. It will be interesting to see which players will use this tactic and which not.
- Necromancing can't be ruled out in general, coz when both play necro, it will be fine.
- Red rush should be mentioned in standard rules, yes. This one I forgot.
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black_knight
black_knight


Known Hero
LT League
posted December 31, 2006 11:46 AM

Error in report! Check your login, your password and opponent's login

WTF !??

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God2
God2


Adventuring Hero
Your benevolent deity
posted January 01, 2007 03:47 AM

I've never played Heroes 3 competively, and when I play, I always play on 130% on the maps that come with the game. Still, I would be interested in trying out competitive play by joining this tourney, but I am unsure about some of the "unwritten" rules. For instance, what does "hit and run" refer to in this game?
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william
william


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Undefeatable Hero
LummoxLewis
posted January 01, 2007 05:45 AM

I don't know what hit and run is but is it when:

you are in battle, you take out some of their troops but seeing as though you cannot win that battle you retreat?

Or did I get that mistaken?
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Ecoris
Ecoris


Promising
Supreme Hero
posted January 01, 2007 02:51 PM

I guess it means attacking with a hero with few but fast troops then you cast a damage spell and retreat again before the opponent gets any chance to hit you. If the opponents hero is close to your castle you can rehire the (assumingly powerful) hero and do this several times.
Fire immune creature + armageddon is one of the most effective.
It's not really fair because the hero gets multiple castings like this.

Is it allowed if you only do it once and don't attack with the same hero and the full army afterwards?

Could you link to the thread where hit and rush is described?

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God2
God2


Adventuring Hero
Your benevolent deity
posted January 01, 2007 02:57 PM

Being allowed to do it once seems reasonable enough, but not more with the same hero.
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SAG
SAG


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Supreme Hero
WCL owner
posted January 01, 2007 06:54 PM

folks, almost nobody reported games yet. i'm not sure that system works fine. please post exact description of all bugs (if any).

to black_knight: i see that your rating increased. Are you sure that you have any problem?

to all : please be attentive to your logins/passwords and say if you have any problems with reports...


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maretti
maretti


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Supreme Hero
posted January 02, 2007 12:25 AM

About hit and run, read  here


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william
william


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Undefeatable Hero
LummoxLewis
posted January 02, 2007 02:10 AM

I wont  be allowed to participate yet, and I think Angelito knows perfectly well.

My Router blocks the HOMM3 Port so I am unable to play, but when I do unblock it so that I can play, we only get to have 1 or 2 turns before it gets an error in the connection while playing, and I certainly don't want to do that over and over again, so when I get it working perfectly and Reinstall it once again I can participate and hopefully learn  something from all you vets at the game
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black_knight
black_knight


Known Hero
LT League
posted January 02, 2007 10:28 AM

Quote:
folks, almost nobody reported games yet. i'm not sure that system works fine. please post exact description of all bugs (if any).

to black_knight: i see that your rating increased. Are you sure that you have any problem?

to all : please be attentive to your logins/passwords and say if you have any problems with reports...




Now all ok

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maretti
maretti


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Supreme Hero
posted January 02, 2007 04:43 PM

When you confirm a report you cant see whether you confirm a win or a loss and it would be nice if there was a link to the main page after you have reported.
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maretti
maretti


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Supreme Hero
posted January 03, 2007 10:46 AM

Pressing "start report" i get this message: "Error in report! Check your login, your password and opponent's login." This happend after my opponent made a pregame report, I have no idea what he reported, cause I cant see it or confirm it.

Looking at my profile I have one amount of points. Looking at the rating list I have another amount of points.

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SAG
SAG


Promising
Supreme Hero
WCL owner
posted January 03, 2007 05:27 PM

to Maretti:

i just checked, there is no any discrepancy. You have 1064 points at all pages (rating, profile and search). 3 possible reasons:
1) close browser window after any report
2) cookies (maybe you need to delete cookies)
3) perhaps server slowly refreshs database...try to visit page again in 10-15 minutes after report.

Regarding "confirmation". At this point you don't confirm "WIN" or "LOSS", you just confirm that you started some game. However i will definitely add game description because now you see only date.

Regarding "error"...well i don't know, see recommendations above.

Quote:
a link to the main page after you have reported.
yes, i will add. 2 weeks later.

to all:
BTW , going to add possibility to report "DRAW" game (sometimes it happens lol) and "ABANDON" game.

9 games reported so far. well good start, keep it going!

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maretti
maretti


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Supreme Hero
posted January 03, 2007 11:20 PM

Turns out I reported a win to many by mistake. I thought I was confirming facts on the first game I played. Imo the player confirming a game should be able to see what he is confirming and both players should make the post game report for it to take effect.
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Hexsist
Hexsist

Tavern Dweller
posted January 05, 2007 12:26 PM

There is rules?? DO u ahve a special patch to prevent this things from happening? EG.
If i use my BD or GD for a Armageddon 's blade effect.. is that not permitted? also, can i use Ressurection spell to revive my army after i used Elementals to reighn in battle? I just gave away my most used stratagies.. tsk tsk. Suppose things have to be regulated thn.

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