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Thread: Welcome to HoMM3 tournament - World Cup league! [ This thread is 15 pages long: 1 2 (3) 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 ]
maretti
maretti


Responsible
Supreme Hero
posted January 06, 2007 02:08 PM

There must be some error in the pointscalculation. I got 32 points for a win even though I had more points than my opponent.
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maretti
maretti


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Supreme Hero
posted January 07, 2007 07:01 PM

Protos started reporting and I confirmed it by writing that I won the game. Still it was registered as a loss for me. Must be an error in the reportingsystem.
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SAG
SAG


Promising
Supreme Hero
WCL owner
posted January 08, 2007 01:28 PM

well...bugs are possible i will fix system after Jan 11 and will correct ratings. Sorry for inconvenience.

if anybody except Maretti had similar bug - please post game description (date, opponent) here.

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SAG
SAG


Promising
Supreme Hero
WCL owner
posted January 08, 2007 03:18 PM

i found pretty interesting thread (click here) that is related to tournament, rules explanations, etc.

few quotes:

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Angelito:
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...2. Those rules are horrific anyway


Canīt agree more.
When will u all accept, that more rules will even unbalance the game more!

How often did u see (even on jebus!), one area had 2 topes, 3 libraries, 4 cons, 12 hives and 28 portal of glory, while the other side had 2 pikemen dwelling and greater gnolls flail as best artefact??
NEVER

But with your rules (no cons/hives) u ruin it completely. Coz now u will find 1 area with 1 tope and 2 libraries, while the other has 2 cons and a portal. So how balanced is that??

If u want a completely balanced game, play CHESS!
If u lose a random game against someone who had better arties and more dwellings....so WHAT??? You will play him more often, and the next game it will be vice versa....if not in the next...then after the 3rd or 4th game!
Why ban a battlespell? One guy has Gunnar and is much faster, while the other has better battlespells. Thatīs fine. If one has Gunnar AND Implo AND 29 Relics AND 9 conservatories....so what?...You had a good and interesting game till the endfight. Report (if tourney game) loss and start a new one.
More and more players tend to eleminate things they had lost against before. Thatīs lame.
See Heroes 3 as it is meant to be....A GAME

To make very few rules which prolly RUIN the game (nothing to do with balance) is ok for me. Like DD, Fly, Diplo (except diplowar, where both have it) and prolly Cartographer. I donīt mention rr or fmg here, coz in my eyes, these 2 things have something to do with honorable play and donīt need to be mentioned explicit. If someone needs to kill me with redrush or without fighting misplaced guards, fine. I go report my loss, but will never play him again...that easy..

If i read statements in Zone or Gamespy like "I donīt play for fun, only for TOH", iīm pretty sure this person missed the point behind any kind of game......having fun and a good time!

See ya....


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Maretti:
No log born hero means you cannot use a hero who starts with log as your main hero. So Monere is banned. No log specs means you cant use a hero with log specialty as main.


damn, really help page for most common rules is a must...even i was not aware about difference between log born and log spec

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prowler
prowler

Tavern Dweller
posted January 13, 2007 01:52 AM

wcl

Hi Sag!
I think i got problem!Mayber a bug maybe not!
I am registered at world cup league but whenever i try to report start, or finish i got error message. Im pretty sure about my password becouse i use always the same pass, but to be sure please email me to jure2705@net.hr  my password-to be sure. My nick is Prowler.

Thx in advance.

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SAG
SAG


Promising
Supreme Hero
WCL owner
posted January 13, 2007 10:24 AM

to PaveTheTitan:  you can use easy chat for Heroes 3 players at GameSpy. Just read attentively this thread

to prowler: i sent password to you

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angelito
angelito

Hero of Order
proud father of a princess
posted January 14, 2007 02:54 PM
Edited by angelito at 14:58, 14 Jan 2007.

Looks like we found the first cheater of that new tournament. Having 480 swordsmen and 80.000 gold week 3 day 1 isn't very common I would say. His name on GS is "2cool4ucris".
He told me today, all was ok, coz "we played a "NO RULES" game. Just lol.....
It was not me who caught him, but I talked to him today.
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SAG
SAG


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Supreme Hero
WCL owner
posted January 16, 2007 04:38 PM

Quote:
There must be some error in the pointscalculation. I got 32 points for a win even though I had more points than my opponent.
FIXED
Quote:
Looks like we found the first cheater of that new tournament.
2cool4ucris is banished, he can't report/confirm games and his rating is 0 now

Error in point calculation that caused inversed reports is fixed now! However wrong reports that were submitted already - still need to be inversed, working on "inverse" button. Also working on guestbook, "offline rooms", rules pages, avatars, FFA & 2v2 games...

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angelito
angelito

Hero of Order
proud father of a princess
posted January 16, 2007 05:04 PM

If u need any help SAG, drop me a line.
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maretti
maretti


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Supreme Hero
posted January 16, 2007 09:33 PM

About the game I mentioned earlier which got the wrong winner. Can you reverse it manually or how will that be fixed?

I tried to make a post game report but got an error message that said I didnt pick the winner (which I did). Then my opponent, who had made the pregame report, reported the game and didnt get an error message.
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SAG
SAG


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Supreme Hero
WCL owner
posted January 17, 2007 06:29 AM

to maretti: i don't want to invert it manually by myself - this will create mess. I will let you to invert game results very soon.

angelito: thanks. Definitely some help will be required, i just don't know which exactly...

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angelito
angelito

Hero of Order
proud father of a princess
posted January 17, 2007 03:00 PM

1 suggestion:
Can u implement a "choice shortlist" (not sure if this is the right word for it) into the report site, where u have to put in the player's name? That way nobody can make a typo anymore, coz he/she choses his/her opponent from a list (like u can do it with the maps).
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SAG
SAG


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Supreme Hero
WCL owner
posted January 17, 2007 06:02 PM

typo in final report is not possible. typo in pre-report is not important because opponent will not be able even to Confirm game...in this case submitter should just delete wrong pre-report and make new one, correct.

also, there are 100 players already and i hope there will be 400+ so i don't think it will be easy to navigate through all these nicknames

however, i will think about your input, maybe will do synch-up-with-typing search...not urgent

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SAG
SAG


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Supreme Hero
WCL owner
posted January 23, 2007 08:13 AM

regarding rule # 9. i performed check on test map...unfortunately no difference between retreat and simple death. need your advise, should i forbid attacking non-upgraded guards (that guard zone, critical object on map, etc) by scouts? or 1 time should be allowed? anyway i have to change rule #9

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angelito
angelito

Hero of Order
proud father of a princess
posted January 23, 2007 03:55 PM

After I thought about it for a while, this rule could occur problems I guess. For every player who uses this "bug" to reduce the amount of units , there is at least one player who uses this option just to check the amount, to be sure if he can win or not, or just to make "poorman's townportal move".

In my last 2vs2, I retreated in a dwarven treasury and rehired my main in the tavern of my ally (IRONMIGHT), to hand him out some minor arties. The only unit on the map near that town have been several bone dragons guarding a box. So I attacked them only to retreat and rebuy hero in my hometown. They were 8 bones and 1 ghost when I attacked. 1 turn later, my ally attacked, and they were 7 bones and 1 ghost. So they were reduced by 1.
Should we rule out such a move?

Maybe we should explain this "bug" on your site, so everyone knows?
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SAG
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Supreme Hero
WCL owner
posted January 24, 2007 05:54 AM

such "check" = 14% discount in quantity...pretty good bonus. In your case i think that pandora was not "critical object". Really critical is block between opponents or way into Treasury zone. I think i will describe in details this bug on site, because it's not widely known in the community. any other opinion? rule #9 is here

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Ecoris
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Supreme Hero
posted January 24, 2007 02:27 PM
Edited by Ecoris at 14:27, 24 Jan 2007.

Are you saying that if I attack a stack of non-upgraded creatures and once in the battle see that there is a single upgraded troop and then retreat without killing any of them, then the number of creatures will be reduced if I attack again?
In case of yes can I do that more than once?
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maretti
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Supreme Hero
posted January 24, 2007 02:46 PM

Yes and yes. You can keep doing that untill there is only 1 unit left.
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SAG
SAG


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Supreme Hero
WCL owner
posted January 25, 2007 09:46 AM

1) i still need your feedback on the topic: what should community allow regarding rule #9. Multiple hit&run is not allowed for sure, question is if it's allowed to attack once (for number check) or not.

2) another bugs that need attention are: "town view" bug and "autocombat" bugs. My proposal is to allow both BUT clearly describe them, so any player can use these bugs. My proposal is based on the factor that it's almost impossible to determine if opponent used these or not. Please post here bug descriptions and feedback - should we allow them or not.

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SAG
SAG


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Supreme Hero
WCL owner
posted January 29, 2007 11:45 AM

Great day today!

I made "invert" and "escalate" options available. Use "invert" for old wrong reports. Use "escalate" when it's new report made by mistake or when when you disagree with opponent's report.

Angelito, btw i had to make fixed selection as you have proposed because seems that system could be case sensitive (it shouldn't be case sensitive though).

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