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Thread: Those good, old creatures...
Golemcrafter
Golemcrafter


Promising
Famous Hero
Unlimited Fantasy Master
posted December 19, 2006 01:29 AM

Those good, old creatures...

Many creatures is not in the game yet, althought they (could) have a reserved place in HOMM V. Some of the missing creatures (HOMM II, HOMM III, and HOMM IV) should be return because:
1. I really loved some missing creatures (I marked them with *)
and
2. Here might are such fans who really want to see their favourit creatures.

So I made a list of the missing creatures. I hope I didn't miss one of them
So:

Venom Spawn*


Thunderbird

Cyclops*


Pegasus

Nomad*


Harpie

Centaur

Naga*


Erfreet*


Bandit

Gold Golem*


Basilisk
Wyvern
Gnoll
Ogre
Halfing... and more (I there are anymore left)

A mixture of thease creatures into one town can porbably solve the problem... But how can it work?

P.S: Of course there are creatures you've already put into a town but I wrote them down here because theyare not officially in the game.







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able to picture every single
detail of his faction
accurately, something most of
us would be unable ... too long to display...

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bixie
bixie


Promising
Legendary Hero
my common sense is tingling!
posted December 19, 2006 01:43 AM

lets see now:

vemon spawn wasn't a good, old creatures, just a fairly bad, new creature

thunderbird, ogre and cyclops are bound to be coming in the expansion, either in the orc town, or my stampede (if Ubi take inspiration from it!) the naga have already been decided to be a new faction for an expansion.

alot of the other creatures are either in the game under different names (scout=bandit) or being used in the nuetral factions in further threads.


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alcibiades
alcibiades


Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
of Gold Dragons
posted December 19, 2006 01:48 AM

Quote:
A mixture of thease creatures into one town can porbably solve the problem...


... Which is probably the #1 worst approach to making a good faction.

Wrong: Take units, make up theme.
Correct: Take theme, make up units.
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Daystar
Daystar


Honorable
Legendary Hero
Back from the Dead
posted December 19, 2006 08:19 AM

Quote:
lets see now:

vemon spawn wasn't a good, old creatures, just a fairly bad, new creature

thunderbird, ogre and cyclops are bound to be coming in the expansion, either in the orc town, or my stampede (if Ubi take inspiration from it!) the naga have already been decided to be a new faction for an expansion.

alot of the other creatures are either in the game under different names (scout=bandit) or being used in the nuetral factions in further threads.




Quote:
Quote:

A mixture of thease creatures into one town can porbably solve the problem...





... Which is probably the #1 worst approach to making a good faction.

Wrong: Take units, make up theme.
Correct: Take theme, make up units.


I agree with both.

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actionjack
actionjack


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Famous Hero
posted December 19, 2006 01:06 PM

Quote:
Quote:
A mixture of thease creatures into one town can porbably solve the problem...


... Which is probably the #1 worst approach to making a good faction.

Wrong: Take units, make up theme.
Correct: Take theme, make up units.


I somehow perfer...

Take Theme, Take a Game-playing-style or unique strategy for that faction, make up units that would work along with hero/faction's special ablity.  

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Homer171
Homer171


Promising
Supreme Hero
posted December 19, 2006 02:31 PM

Cyclops and Nomand might come back but other creatures like Golems and Nagas place are allready taken. Nigtmare/Pit Lord before Efreet imo. And i don't miss those Venoms at all.

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GenieLord
GenieLord


Honorable
Legendary Hero
posted December 19, 2006 03:31 PM

You forgot some:
Pikemen
Centaur
Pegasus
Gorgon
Goblin
Orc
Ogre
Bemoth
Harpy
Troglodyte
Evil Eye
Medusa
etc...
etc...

And I think, that putting all those creatures in one town will be mistake.
Again, as I said in Daystar's thread, don't do HOMM4 mistakes.
In HOMM5, every town has one race.
Not doing that, was one of the biggest mistakes of HOMM4.

Learn from past's mistakes.

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alcibiades
alcibiades


Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
of Gold Dragons
posted December 19, 2006 06:01 PM

To be fair, it was not a mistake they "made" with Heroes 4. Look back to Heroes 3 - Dwarves, Elves and Humans in one town; Goblins, Orcs, Ogres and Cyclops in another, etc. Many of the HOMAM towns have always been a mess, and it's only in Heroes 5 that they made it entirely systematic. Still, I agree 100 %, that grouping together a bunch of different creatures without having a very strong theme is a mistake.
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Card_Ximinez
Card_Ximinez


Famous Hero
no
posted December 19, 2006 07:20 PM

Quote:
You forgot some:
Pikemen
Centaur
Pegasus
Gorgon
Goblin
Orc
Ogre
Bemoth
Harpy
Troglodyte
Evil Eye
Medusa
etc...
etc...


He did say pegasus and by the way it's "behemoth"

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KnightDougal
KnightDougal


Bad-mannered
Famous Hero
posted December 19, 2006 09:26 PM

Quote:
Quote:
You forgot some:
Pikemen
Centaur
Pegasus
Gorgon
Goblin
Orc
Ogre
Bemoth
Harpy
Troglodyte
Evil Eye
Medusa
etc...
etc...


He did say pegasus and by the way it's "behemoth"


for the next expansion: DON't FORGET THE SETTLEMENT!!!!
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alcibiades
alcibiades


Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
of Gold Dragons
posted December 19, 2006 10:45 PM

Yawn.
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VokialBG
VokialBG


Honorable
Legendary Hero
First in line
posted December 20, 2006 12:02 AM

*yawn*

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Daystar
Daystar


Honorable
Legendary Hero
Back from the Dead
posted December 20, 2006 03:06 AM

I see your yawn and raise you a snore.

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