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diegis
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posted February 05, 2007 03:39 PM |
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Edited by diegis at 15:40, 05 Feb 2007.
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I can't imagine situation where i have to face a level 28 wyngaal in hourglass nowadays 
But if wyngaal = banned, player should be given option to restart till he is not available in tavern or start as main hero.
I didnt know about such rule yet sq....In fact is this a rule i dont know..? No offence
I remember Lord told me he was beaten by academy, when played wyngaal...not once , but twice
Yes, cycleguy show me screenshot on atb bar for that game.
It seems cycleguy has ring of speed,staff of netherworld as artifacts but how many times do u get all of them ?
And map is hourglass. Our addict has 40+ games there 
I have situation wyngaal win in hourglass with zero losses before.. because opponent never got chance to move or reliate. He clear stacks every move of the dragons
Haha for the rule, its something i feel fair if a town's hero is banned, that leaves him with only 3 other more useable heroes for sylvan.
You said u won +40 games... , and i suppose in most part of them u used wyngaal...so u can ban wyngaal for yourself... ?!
If luck is, luck to be then...agree with u elit
If I had 1 single chance i take wyngaal in first day, but dont start with him as main hero...unless opponent disagree...fair enough?
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sq79
Famous Hero
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posted February 05, 2007 03:57 PM |
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I can't imagine situation where i have to face a level 28 wyngaal in hourglass nowadays
But if wyngaal = banned, player should be given option to restart till he is not available in tavern or start as main hero.
I didnt know about such rule yet sq....In fact is this a rule i dont know..? No offence
I remember Lord told me he was beaten by academy, when played wyngaal...not once , but twice
Yes, cycleguy show me screenshot on atb bar for that game.
It seems cycleguy has ring of speed,staff of netherworld as artifacts but how many times do u get all of them ?
And map is hourglass. Our addict has 40+ games there
I have situation wyngaal win in hourglass with zero losses before.. because opponent never got chance to move or reliate. He clear stacks every move of the dragons
Haha for the rule, its something i feel fair if a town's hero is banned, that leaves him with only 3 other more useable heroes for sylvan.
You said u won +40 games... , and i suppose in most part of them u used wyngaal...so u can ban wyngaal for yourself...?!
If luck is, luck to be then...agree with u elit
If I had 1 single chance i take wyngaal in first day, but dont start with him as main hero...unless opponent disagree...fair enough?
Did i mention winning 40+ games with wyngaal ?
I as referring to your teammate's game with cycleguy.
Well i never used wyngaal for myself, but if he is in tavern and not agreed on ban.. we used them. Anyways, we noticed the bug when ghast posted on the 2% thingy in the experience for new patch thread.
Most of my hourglass games is versus cycleguy and only 1-2 of of 19 we played, i am wyngaal.
But i heard people insist on choosing him as main hero in hourglass when know he is bugged. To win is nothing glorious or satisfying, but to lose is can only be due to poor playing or extreme bad luck.
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diegis
Supreme Hero
power of Zamolxis
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posted February 05, 2007 03:57 PM |
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yes , ur right man...
by the way, its pity u want to quit..i heared some rumors, but still believe its just a strategy....
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Elit
Famous Hero
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posted February 05, 2007 06:36 PM |
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Lets make it clear. n00bs want to play raondom hero because they CANT play and for this want to FORCE second player to play random too.
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maretti
Responsible
Supreme Hero
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posted February 05, 2007 06:43 PM |
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Edited by maretti at 18:45, 05 Feb 2007.
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You couldnt be futher from the truth. Noobs pick heroes they are familiar playing. If they go random they will be in over their head and are likely to suicide sooner or later.
A true champ can play everything so he makes rules to avoid the most exstreme inbalances, and then he makes the most of what he gets. He will even make the noob pick and beat him anyway. Another reson why he goes random is that he is likely to play so much, that if he picked every time he would get bored sooner than nessesary.
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Elit
Famous Hero
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posted February 05, 2007 06:56 PM |
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You can play random hero if you want...but dont force second plaer to do same. Its like CHEAT.
If you think i cant play other heroes you are wrong. Its just that this is not my "fun".
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vesuvius
Hero of Order
Honor Above all Else
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posted February 05, 2007 07:30 PM |
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Well maybe i'm a newb, but I will not play someone who will have to pick his hero, etc. Its simple as that. Or make restart rules etc. Nothing to with trying to take advantage of someone, its been that way for me since homm2. Playing for ToH is also to play and have fun lets not forget.
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Elit
Famous Hero
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posted February 05, 2007 07:43 PM |
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Edited by Elit at 19:45, 05 Feb 2007.
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Why dont you want your oponent to choose hero ? Is this fair ?
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nevermind
Famous Hero
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posted February 05, 2007 08:11 PM |
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You couldnt be futher from the truth. Noobs pick heroes they are familiar playing. If they go random they will be in over their head and are likely to suicide sooner or later.
A true champ can play everything so he makes rules to avoid the most exstreme inbalances, and then he makes the most of what he gets. He will even make the noob pick and beat him anyway. Another reson why he goes random is that he is likely to play so much, that if he picked every time he would get bored sooner than nessesary.
You should listen to marretti he knows what he's saying
YO MARRETTI!! whats up?
i miss our good games .. when u moving to homm5 already?? you can't play homm3 forever
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maretti
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Supreme Hero
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posted February 05, 2007 08:21 PM |
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I still have the old crapcomp. I wonder how many times i would have to get my ass kicked and how many hours I would have to spend before I was just somewhat competitive. Not really encouraging thinking.
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Crag rules, Orrin and Ivor suck
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nevermind
Famous Hero
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posted February 05, 2007 08:31 PM |
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heh
Well if u study well the info before playing then for you it will take few games to be competitive with avarage players and a bit more with the top but if someone can do it fast it you , go buy a new comp!
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maretti
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posted February 05, 2007 08:32 PM |
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Im waiting for my wife to get it, work related. Thats the problem, nothing happens.
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Crag rules, Orrin and Ivor suck
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fiur
Promising
Supreme Hero
Map Creator
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posted February 05, 2007 09:18 PM |
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Well maybe i'm a newb, but I will not play someone who will have to pick his hero, etc. Its simple as that. Or make restart rules etc. Nothing to with trying to take advantage of someone, its been that way for me since homm2. Playing for ToH is also to play and have fun lets not forget.
Could'nt agree more...... I've played many battles where I know for sure I gonna lose.... but then again I "hang" in.... if I can't win I can Learn!
just my word.....
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cycleguy
Adventuring Hero
Runs through cornfields naked
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posted February 05, 2007 11:38 PM |
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Lets make it clear. n00bs want to play raondom hero because they CANT play and for this want to FORCE second player to play random too.
I guess im a n00b. I think its exactly opposite. I think new players can only play good if they get a certain hero, while experianced players can play with most any hero and still manage to play a great game.
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Aculias
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
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posted February 06, 2007 12:21 AM |
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I disagree.
A noob player non not develope thier skills if they only pick thier heroes.
Exanding new skills in a game requires random.
Only a puss picks a hero because they are afraid they van not win with any other hero.
Only players who hate to lose picks a hero.
Maretti you may be a great heroes 3 player but I also know about the game longer then you.
Picking a hero is a bad habbit & a wuss way to go.
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PhillyWho
Tavern Dweller
clearly intoxicated
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posted February 06, 2007 05:19 AM |
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you know what really makes this game fun, playing the same hero on the same map over and over and over, oh wait Im wrong, that is obsession...
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the_teacher
Supreme Hero
Talk to the hand!
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posted February 06, 2007 08:29 AM |
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excuse elit, he will grow up soon
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jorko80
Adventuring Hero
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posted February 06, 2007 12:01 PM |
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You guys,really don't know what you are talking about(as Elit said) and let's hope you'll see the truth some day and you'll grow up. Let me translate what Elit said,because his english is not good. So the thing is,that an unexpirenced player who doesn't know the game wants to play random, and the real reason for this is,that he relies on the chance that he'll get good hero and the opponent bad hero,so this increases his chance to win the game. I don't like those chances and as I said earlier I don't have any luck for those things. Elit knows me,we played many games,he knows that if I start a game on random,9 out of 10 games I'll have the worst combination possible, so tell me, how do you expect me to play random? If you guys have the needed luck for this ,play this way,it's not for me. Maybe I'm an exclusion,but nevertheless I'll not play random hero,at least until nival balances them.
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TowerLord
Promising
Supreme Hero
Hero of Good, Slayer of Evil
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posted February 06, 2007 12:20 PM |
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You guys,really don't know what you are talking about(as Elit said) and let's hope you'll see the truth some day and you'll grow up. Let me translate what Elit said,because his english is not good. So the thing is,that an unexpirenced player who doesn't know the game wants to play random, and the real reason for this is,that he relies on the chance that he'll get good hero and the opponent bad hero,so this increases his chance to win the game. I don't like those chances and as I said earlier I don't have any luck for those things. Elit knows me,we played many games,he knows that if I start a game on random,9 out of 10 games I'll have the worst combination possible, so tell me, how do you expect me to play random? If you guys have the needed luck for this ,play this way,it's not for me. Maybe I'm an exclusion,but nevertheless I'll not play random hero,at least until nival balances them.
So basically what you are saying is : " I'll have a better hero than my opponent, cause I know how to choose better ... uhuuu " . Well guess what, everybody (or almost everybody) knows what hero is the better one ... so what happens in a sylvan match out, when both of you will want to go for Wyngaal? One of you has to settle for another hero, and he will be disadvantaged and frustrated because he's opponent wouldn't let him choose whom he wants. So the nicer person will say, what the hell lets give it a try, and he will lose because he was nicer .
So that is why going for random heroes is the best solution(and easiest solution) to this problem... cause at least it was fate if you get the worse hero!
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the_teacher
Supreme Hero
Talk to the hand!
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posted February 06, 2007 12:20 PM |
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jorko = elit's double account?
u say bad/weak player relies on the luck to get a good hero. if he's bad player or , at least, worse than u, then no hero will help him too much during the game vs. your higher skill.
so noob luck which makes wonders is out of question. your argument with word "noobs" in statement has fallen.
there mught be the other situation which is moer reasonable, for those who are reasonable persons of course, when 2 players, very close as skill will go random and one gets a super-mega-unbelievable-unstoppable hero (as u pretend that means a huge luck) and the other gets the worst.
few observations here: after patch there is no such hero, except wingall, who can be mutually agreed to be banned from the start, and there is no big difference between the rest, not that difference that could ruin a game anyway.
that so-called put-on-paper strategy before launching represents , in the best case, 80% of the way game really goes, rest its improvisation, so the initial plan can be applied to any hero having that 20% tolerance and it doesnt need to be stuck with one option only.
besides, u have 3 heroes option from the start, and maybe its even better to choose an unexpected one considering the opponent's choice, as a counter weapon.
if i have to give marks to heroes will be like : wingaal 10, and the rest between 5-7, and u cannot get 3 heroes of mark 5 from the same race. as a conclusion,in the worst case u can fight a heroes 6 vs. a heros 7, if wingaal is banned. which is no real biggie to be stubborn and foaming about the random rule.
have a nice day
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