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Elit
Elit


Famous Hero
posted February 06, 2007 01:21 PM

What i'm telling you are lazy to learn game for this want to play random. Dont forget for fun and rest we have Warlords where all is random. Clan is serius turnament.  

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PhillyWho
PhillyWho

Tavern Dweller
clearly intoxicated
posted February 06, 2007 01:31 PM

i think it is lazy to not learn all heroes
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Elit
Elit


Famous Hero
posted February 06, 2007 01:41 PM

PhillyWho lets make 5 game on hourglas/hard/no limit/no dinamyc battle/no use keys. We will play random hero but if i beat you all 5 games You will stop play random.

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the_teacher
the_teacher


Supreme Hero
Talk to the hand!
posted February 06, 2007 01:59 PM

maybe u can choose a real map, not hourglass, cause this is far from being a MAP.

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diegis
diegis


Supreme Hero
power of Zamolxis
posted February 06, 2007 02:05 PM

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maybe u can choose a real map, not hourglass, cause this is far from being a MAP.

lol...and y that?
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Elit
Elit


Famous Hero
posted February 06, 2007 02:05 PM

lol the_teacher, What is "real" map for you ?
hourglass is balanced map. Have enough artis to can get good and bad. Not like maps where have 2-3 arts and if all is bad you cant do any. Here have enough strong monsters to loss your army if you cant play
What you dont like in this map ?

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Aculias
Aculias


Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
posted February 06, 2007 02:43 PM

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You guys,really don't know what you are talking about(as Elit said) and let's hope you'll see the truth some day and you'll grow up. Let me translate what Elit said,because his english is not good. So the thing is,that an unexpirenced player who doesn't know the game wants to play random, and the real reason for this is,that he relies on the chance that he'll get good hero and the opponent bad hero,so this increases his chance to win the game. I don't like those chances and as I said earlier  I don't have any luck for those things. Elit knows me,we played many games,he knows that if I start a game on random,9 out of 10 games I'll have the worst combination possible, so tell me, how do you expect me to play random? If you guys have the needed luck for this ,play this way,it's not for me. Maybe I'm an exclusion,but nevertheless I'll not play random hero,at least until nival balances them.



That dont make sense at all.
If a player is inexperienced & he sucks but he wants to pick random so he can get a chance to get a great hero.
Why not just pick the hero then so you can start off with a great hero.
Elit not only does it not make sense the way your buddy described it but reek lol.
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Elit
Elit


Famous Hero
posted February 06, 2007 02:59 PM

He want to play random because dont want second player to pick "decent" hero. So dont tell me he doing it for fun and dont care for result. Its just cheap.
Every 1 is wellcome to accept my chalenge to PhillyWho. Rules is same only for undet i will choice his hero and he will use him for main


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fraudatio
fraudatio


Famous Hero
posted February 06, 2007 06:57 PM

Dead Vikings

Thanks for the nice words SQ79 - I know there are more games to come for us

To this discussion - I don`t see where that "random race" discussion came from now that everyone is playing Clans. I guess that solves itself - I can always go random and reload untill i get Necro so it is a proper clangame

As for the random hero - I will only play random hero (if there isnt a player I know that has some good reasons for picking). And why is that?

In the beginning I always picked heroes, When playing Necro I used  Vladimir in the start. Then I tried Naathir and liked him. Later I was told Kaspar was great, so I tried him. And I played him a long while cause obviously he is easy to play with.

At this stage I thought nothing of all the other Necroheroes. Then I had to try other necroheroes, and guess what, they are great!

I always get a great startinghero, cause there is no thing as a poor necrohero At LEAST not two. And every hero demands a new tactic, now that is a part of the exitement when starting a game - in a game with Ghast now I am playing Orson for the first time, and guess what? He rules!! After I started playing clans, and random hero, the game has been much more fun, cause it is 7-8 heroes that I may play, and everyone have their own options when it comes to skill etc.

Random hero also saves for the possibility that someone always pick the most advanteous hero/map combination to have all the odds in their favour.

It is OK to know that Elit for instance wont play random - then other non-random players can play him and vice versa



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Elit
Elit


Famous Hero
posted February 06, 2007 07:11 PM

fraudatio: Nice story. That you are telling confurm that undead can be played with every their hero and it dont mather much with wich one you will play, and for that undeads want to play all random when they play vs any other race.  
Ppl pick specific hero to use some strategy.

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nevermind
nevermind


Famous Hero
posted February 06, 2007 07:37 PM

I don't understand all this talk about

wyngaal
With all do respect maybe he's overbalanced on 1 map which is hourglass cuz the massive amount of units make the first turn more crusial.

But no talk about deleb? deleb is much more overpowered then wyngaal on any map (except hourglass ) and i'm willing to prove it to anyone who challange that

And btw lol elit

Quote:

Here have enough strong monsters to loss your army if you cant play
What you dont like in this map ?




Read again its your own words i didn't touch nothing

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fraudatio
fraudatio


Famous Hero
posted February 06, 2007 07:40 PM

Quote:
fraudatio: Nice story. That you are telling confurm that undead can be played with every their hero and it dont mather much with wich one you will play, and for that undeads want to play all random when they play vs any other race.  
Ppl pick specific hero to use some strategy.


I happen to be in a undead clan, so yeah, i gotta go for one of them. Thing is I would do the same with any other race, and no, I do not think there are such things as 2 totally useless heroes in any faction.

How about this: I played Ghasteater on the extremely open map Mystic Vale. I got Deleb, he got Sylvan. Of course i offered a reload, but then Ghasteater, as the great player he is figured, no, I can do this. I was at his place at day 6-7 first week. To put the story short, he killed me in the end, after a massive tactic to hold me down.

But don`t let me critizise you, feel free to play exactly how you want. The imortant thing is that both agree.

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Elit
Elit


Famous Hero
posted February 06, 2007 07:46 PM

"But don`t let me critizise you, feel free to play exactly how you want. The imortant thing is that both agree."

100% agree with you.
Important part is both players to agree rules and play honest. No lie, no dirty trap.  

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sq79
sq79


Famous Hero
posted February 06, 2007 07:56 PM

I bet few would select inferno as random if they don't get to choose deleb.
She is like wyngaal in open maps like mystic vale etc.. But academy/havez sometimes can prove to be a challenge over her.
But there is almost no challenge to wyngaal in hourglass or maybe bfh and other big maps.

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nevermind
nevermind


Famous Hero
posted February 06, 2007 08:36 PM

Quote:
I bet few would select inferno as random if they don't get to choose deleb.
She is like wyngaal in open maps like mystic vale etc.. But academy/havez sometimes can prove to be a challenge over her.
But there is almost no challenge to wyngaal in hourglass or maybe bfh and other big maps.



SQ i'll take that challenge on BFH

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sq79
sq79


Famous Hero
posted February 06, 2007 08:41 PM
Edited by sq79 at 20:44, 06 Feb 2007.

I told u i banned him
Try others who use him
If we play, can we set time to 20min/turn ? lol
1 hour turns make me feel like resigning

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fiur
fiur


Promising
Supreme Hero
Map Creator
posted February 06, 2007 09:02 PM
Edited by fiur at 21:03, 06 Feb 2007.

well well...

as Fraudatio says... as "we" both agree then it's okay and so on...


but here is some statistics  over my battle against Deleb and Wyngaal, I will not "name" my opponent...

November 2006, Map: DML "he" Sylvan: Wyngaal, me Sylvan: Vinrael result: victory
December 2006, Map: DML "he" Deleb, me Necro: Naadir result: victory
this month: Map:Hourglass "he" Sylvan: Wyngaal me Necro: Naadir result: victory

(a side note I've lost 3 times with Wyngaal myself....   )
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Valentin
Valentin


Adventuring Hero
grr
posted February 06, 2007 09:35 PM

Idan, on BFH with Deleb,  you will lose alot of games. You can ask Zilonite how he beat me with Haven. Zilonite was really good strateg. Also deleb can fall from Necro, Academy, Sylvan, Dworves somethimes  etc.

Really the turn limit is imortant. I have no patient to wait lazy players who move too slow. They are losing my time!

Offcourse on the other side of problem are too fast players. Like a Diallin. He wanted only 2-4 min turn limit! It was a gread battles but when he lose 3 games on row - he stopped TOH

Only NOOBS can always want "random hero".  Good players must choose heroes and somethimes for fun, to use random hero - in Warlords for example.  H5 has soo large and deep strategy, it is funny to use "random hero" only cause you need to have difficulty.

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nevermind
nevermind


Famous Hero
posted February 06, 2007 09:57 PM

SORRY BUT ALL POSTING HERE MAKE ME ANGRY HERE IS RESULT

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Idan, on BFH with Deleb,  you will lose alot of games. You can ask Zilonite how he beat me with Haven. Zilonite was really good strateg. Also deleb can fall from Necro, Academy, Sylvan, Dworves somethimes  etc.


VALENTIVE READ WELL WHAT I WRITE NEVER ONCE DID I SAY A CERTAIN HERO CAN'T LOSE IN A CERTAIN GAME GIVING 1,2,3,4 EXAMPLES WILL NOT CONVINCE ME A STATISTIC OF A MUCH LARGER GAMES IS CLOSER TO THE TRUTH.


Quote:

Really the turn limit is imortant. I have no patient to wait lazy players who move too slow. They are losing my time!



THAT IS PROLLY THE STUPIDEST THING I EVER HEARD IF YOU WANT U CAN COME HERE LOOK AT MY SCREEN AND IF U CAN DO WHAT I DO IN LESS TIME I GIVE YOU 500$ (and no winning more games doesn't mean u do what i do)


Quote:

Offcourse on the other side of problem are too fast players. Like a Diallin. He wanted only 2-4 min turn limit! It was a gread battles but when he lose 3 games on row - he stopped TOH



FRANKLY TIME LIMIT MAKES ME SICK TO THE STOMACH


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Only NOOBS can always want "random hero".  Good players must choose heroes and somethimes for fun, to use random hero - in Warlords for example.  H5 has soo large and deep strategy, it is funny to use "random hero" only cause you need to have difficulty.



WITH ALL DO RESPECT MR.VALENTIN SOME PLAYERS WHO BEEN PLAYING HEROES FOR TOH YEARS NOW HAVE MENTIONED THE OPPOSITE TO WHAT U SAY SO I WATCH MY WORDS I THINK ITS QUITE INSULTING CALLING A PLAYER WHO BEEN PLAYING FOR YEARS A NOOB HAVE SOME RESPECT.

After reading some strange posting in this thread it was building up inside me and valentin let it loose it was bound to happend no hard feelings
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maretti
maretti


Responsible
Supreme Hero
posted February 06, 2007 10:12 PM

Any vet knows that a player who wont allow his opponent time to play well is a noob. No need to get upset here spy.
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