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GenieLord
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posted May 07, 2007 05:03 PM

Racism

Ashrah posts sometimes replies like:
Quote:
Forget it boy, you will never be an Incubus.

Incubi and Succubi shun countries like israel, so it kinda impossible.

Quote:
I pity the fools that live a lie.
I pity the fools that live for religion.
I pity the poor-people that found themselves born around and in israel.
I pity the poor-people that found  themselves born with extremly religious parents.
It truly bothers me.
It would bother me even if I were not Israeli.

Written in the Code of Conduct:
Quote:
"NO insults, abuse, racism or sexism"
Well, it insults.
You can call it abuse.
And it's definitely racism.

Please, do something to stop it.

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tnt_addict
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posted May 07, 2007 05:16 PM

Yes I saw those posts too and like 2 days ago sent an IM to Pandora but she didn't reply so I dunno what's happening with this kind of stuff.

Deffinately wrong
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Geny
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What if Elvin was female?
posted May 07, 2007 05:17 PM

I've got one very important thing to say:

Rasicm is bad!

There, you can lock the thread now.

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angelito
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posted May 07, 2007 07:20 PM

I'm really far far away from being any near to racism, but "to pity somebody" is no insult or anything near.
So I really don't see the point saying "I pity people living at this or that place" being racism at all.

Or maybe I miss any different meaning of the word "to feel pity for somebody".
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baklava
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posted May 07, 2007 07:27 PM

I usually try to stay out of stuff like this, yet I never succeed...
So,
Quote:
Incubi and Succubi shun countries like israel

Is it bad if someone says that demons avoid your country?

Quote:
I pity the poor-people that found themselves born around and in Israel

As you can see, she didn't say "fools" but "poor people". So she actually feels sorry for people born in Israel (just like she feels sorry for children born with religious parents). I mean, she considers your country unsafe and perhaps traumatic to live in. With all those wars with muslims and stuff that's not really far from the truth, I think you'd agree. I too know how horrible it is to grow up in a country with fronts and bombings all around it, and in it. But she never said anything about Jewish people. I mean, I pity the poor people born in Somalia or Ethiopia; but I don't hate them, nor am I a racist. It just saddens me that they are born into such probable suffering.
Be the Ashrah's case this or just seeking attention (or probably both), accusing someone of racism and antisemitism is quite serious and I recommend taking everything into opinion before jumping to conclusions.
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EliteKill
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posted May 07, 2007 07:45 PM

Well, it might be easy for you to say that's it's not exactly racism, but for us (Me, GenieLord, Geny, and TNT) who are the people that are "pitied" it is hurtful. I don't know how ir looks from your side, but from my side it pretty much looks like racism

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Geny
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posted May 07, 2007 08:41 PM

Sorry, EliteKill, but count me out this time.
Yeah it did hurt when I first read it, for about a second and a half.
Then I reread it, remembered some of Ashrah's posts and read his "last post".
You don't need to take so close to your heart everything you read here. Ashrah's been here for a while, you should know that when he tries to hurt someone he doesn't write someone like "I pity you", he has much more evil ways to say things.
So I refered to it as a bad joke that's all. And I really advise you to do the same.
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GenieLord
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posted May 07, 2007 08:43 PM

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Sorry, EliteKill, but count me out this time.
Yeah it did hurt when I first read it, for about a second and a half.
Then I reread it, remembered some of Ashrah's posts and read his "last post".
You don't need to take so close to your heart everything you read here. Ashrah's been here for a while, you should know that when he tries to hurt someone he doesn't write someone like "I pity you", he has much more evil ways to say things.
So I refered to it as a bad joke that's all. And I really advise you to do the same.
After reading his "last post" I didn't know what to think. Is everything a joke or he really meant it? I'm confused. However, it's not okay. Treating it like a joke doesn't make it right.

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EliteKill
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posted May 07, 2007 08:56 PM

GenieLord is right. I can start cursing people around here, and right after it say it's a joke. That still doesn't make ok, and now being taking it on a much higher scae (just for the fun of it ), imagine if Bin-Laden came to the US and said that 9/11 was a big joke... Yeah, I just had to let it out

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Geny
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What if Elvin was female?
posted May 07, 2007 09:06 PM

Actually, Elitekill, you just proved my point. You had to let it out, you thought that it was witty. Do you think the victims of 9/11 would think so too? Should you be penalized/banned for hurting their feelings?
I think no, because you were only trying to make a point and this sentence looked okay to you. Not all people have a great sense of humor and not all people know how to express themselves gracefully and I don't think we should crucify them on the spot, unless of course what they said was a direct insult.
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tnt_addict
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posted May 07, 2007 09:14 PM

And anyway...

Hashtray is silenced and probably will be banned from the forum after creating his 3rd account here while trying to make fools out of everyone
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Geny
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What if Elvin was female?
posted May 07, 2007 09:16 PM

So let me just repeat myself:
Quote:
Rasicm is bad!

There, you can lock the thread now.


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baklava
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posted May 07, 2007 10:23 PM

Quote:
Well, it might be easy for you to say that's it's not exactly racism, but for us (Me, GenieLord, Geny, and TNT) who are the people that are "pitied" it is hurtful.

Well, instead of pity, we usually get this:



That's a Serbian orthodox church in Kosovo. Or at least was one.
Trust me, I know what hatred is.
I thought that after years of blood conflict with your neighbours (not to mention WW2) you'd at least learn not to chill out when someone pities you...
National hatred is based on far worse things than pity. I supposed you'd know that, just like we in the Balkans know it. After all the wars that happened in our regions I pray that we get some pity instead of bloodshed, for a change.
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Aculias
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posted May 08, 2007 03:51 AM

Wesley is Wesley.
It dont bother him.
So dont let it bother you.

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william
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posted May 08, 2007 08:06 AM

I don't see that pitying someone is racism.

Genielord, if you do have a concern you should report it to a moderator
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pomo
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posted May 08, 2007 09:12 AM

While I'm not sure that the quoted examples constitute racism (they never refer to any racial/ethnic group - they do seem to me to be insulting), Ashrah's posting record as a whole is very clearly racist.

I realise by the way that Ashrah is an alter ego, but that doesn't change the fact that what was posted is racism.

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TitaniumAlloy
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posted May 08, 2007 10:19 AM

I'm not racist.

I hate them all equally..
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vhilhu
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posted May 08, 2007 03:40 PM

Quote:
I'm not racist.

I hate them all equally..


yea the puny homo sapiens always think so well of themselves... although theyre all f-ng ugly and dumb...
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pandora
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posted May 08, 2007 04:41 PM

You are absolutely right, the things he was saying were racist and disgusting.

Lich_King believed all along that "she" was Wesley, which would of course mean ban - but we didn't know. Now we do, and it is stopped.

I'm very sorry to those of you who were rightly offended and upset by his crap.
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Aculias
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posted May 08, 2007 08:21 PM

Many things to get offended about.
Hav ing Wesley get to you id funny to me.
What he likes, he likes to get people under thier skin.
Pomo you care way too much about what people think.
That can get you into trouble.
Yea some stuff he said was crazy.
So what, I never read what he replied anyways.
Maybe thats why I never figured out who it was.
I DIDNT CARE.
You did.
Thats why your offended & he is laughing at you like I am.
It's crazy to get offended by a person like that.


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