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cosmin
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posted May 22, 2007 12:38 PM |
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Ok thats good that at least you admit this.
Now for what its gonna do.
I admit that you finally mannaged to follow me here.
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Rn=Ro + max[30 +0.05*(D),5]
let me explain to you how this formula was born:
there are 8 ranks on TOH.
First one has no involment (recruit is given by the number of games - less then 5 if i recall you corectly).
And formula was started like this:
what's the maximum diffrence between a 1600 points player and a new registerd one?
1600 -1000 = 600
how many ranks you go through to reach from one to another? 5
now here they added the the 0 point:
0 means 600
now they reported the 5 ranks diffrence to a 100% procentage:
0.05 = 5/100 = 1/20
so what the formula said here is:
with each rank you advance your overoll value is higher with 1/20
so aplyed this to the maximum diffrence between players:
600*1.20 = 30
Here aplyed the the 0 diffrence (+30) and you get the limit where you are allowed to play against.
To invert the first value, they swiched the D (1000-1600 = -600) - the proportion can be expressed into negative scale also.
so you get and general formula that counts the diffrence between 5 ranks and reflects 1/20 growing into your value.
You still here?
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cosmin
Known Hero
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posted May 22, 2007 12:42 PM |
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Edited by cosmin at 13:10, 22 May 2007.
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Of course i do, you get basic 30 points for the win and then its either deducted or increased , depands on the difference in total points before the game
Read below my friend,
You had no ideea what the formula reflects.
Now the 5 point limit .
That would make you never earn last 1/20 from 100% expression.
So now you report it as 80%. Let's inflate that to get to the real value:
Making this reliable you must change the overoll expression:
So let's build it then:
no 5 ranks but 6 as diffrence
1899-1000 = 899
Ranks we step over: 6
6 expressed as procentage out of 100% (100/6 = 16,66666)
so would be 1/16.6666 = 0.0600000 (we take 0.06)
so 0.06*(D)
now Let's calculate the maximum for 0 margin:
0.06*(1000-1899) = -53.94 (we round here -54)
So Here's your damn formula includding LORD rank:
Rn = Ro + 54 +0.06*(D)
Same you may integrate for Emperor!!!!!!!!!!!!
Have a great day all!
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feluniozbunio
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted May 22, 2007 12:43 PM |
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Now
Rn=Ro + max[30 +0.05*(D),5]
let me explain to you how this formula was born:
Actually this is my formula and i know how did it born lol haha i can even tell you. At first i took existing formula then put max function in wrong place by accident. Then corrected it as fast as i could but still not fast enough coz u saw it first lol.
I know all the theory about existing one so you dont have to explain it to me. Stop repeating things that everybody can figure out from the formula and start giving arguments and listening to arguments of others.
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Of course i do, you get basic 30 points for the win and then its either deducted or increased , depands on the difference in total points before the game
Read below my friend,
You had no ideea what the formula reflects.
omg dude you seriously think im gonna write one page post just to prove i know what is this all about lol i like to keep things simple and focus on whats important, you obviously not.
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Elit
Famous Hero
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posted May 22, 2007 01:40 PM |
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So let's build it then:
no 5 ranks but 6 as diffrence
1899-1000 = 899
Ranks we step over: 6
6 expressed as procentage out of 100% (100/6 = 16,66666)
so would be 1/16.6666 = 0.0600000 (we take 0.06)
so 0.06*(D)
now Let's calculate the maximum for 0 margin:
0.06*(1000-1899) = -53.94 (we round here -54)
So Here's your damn formula includding LORD rank:
Rn = Ro + 54 +0.06*(D)
Same you may integrate for Emperor!!!!!!!!!!!!
Have a great day all!
If my lazy calculations i true this furmula will give:
6 points per win for 1800 vs 1000
14 points per win for 1700 vs 1000
18 points per win for 1600 vs 1000
This look very nice for me and very good reson to risk my points for reward like this.
P.S. I dont know for what you are argue feluniozbunio and cosmin....when you both want same.
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vesuvius
Hero of Order
Honor Above all Else
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posted May 22, 2007 07:53 PM |
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I sit here silently watching you guys argue; the rankings system will NOT be changed.
-to do so, will be disproportional to every other season that has occurred in ToH history, creating an inflationary process
-there is clans, and new clans that pop up have low ranked players in them... get your points in full the clans way (ie, not main rankings points but clans points, which is indifferent to what the players' real points ranking is).
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morgan_le_fey
Famous Hero
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posted June 11, 2007 09:14 AM |
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what about giving everyone 500 free points to start with?
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morgan_le_fey
Famous Hero
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posted June 11, 2007 09:21 AM |
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lessons you say? ask around. the consensus is that you could find far better teachers than ....
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or you could consider it a challenge to learn to play h3 better.
morgan le fey.
Its not about how good i'm play h3. If i beat him 9 from 10 games result will be same. 0 points gains for me and 50-80 for him from 1 win. Why when we are both new for h3 in ToH ?
Its prety simple. ppl are different good in h3/h4/h5. If points are same for all games...ppl will play only version where are most strong.Result will be less games. From this we all loss.
P.S. maybe you can give me some lessons in h3 morgan le fey? 
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The_Mysterious
Adventuring Hero
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posted June 11, 2007 10:05 AM |
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I could ask change for clan size (3>5) and it's not necessary, nor the scoring system of the tournament of honor. 
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