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Zilonite
Famous Hero
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posted May 21, 2007 12:55 PM |
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Edited by Zilonite at 13:07, 21 May 2007.
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How about new simple subtourney?
As the end of season with Ceasars and clan finals is still quite far away, may be we can make little elimination subtourney - one that a couple years ago was known as "Map Master"?
Basic idea:
To battle it out, who is da best ToH player on one particular map.
How it might go on:
The simpliest tourney possible:
- all games of the tourney are played on one particular map;
- elimination tourney, one lose and you are out (therefore good number of participants would be 16 or 8);
- both players are free to agree on what rules they want to play their game - only obligatory rule is that all games should be played on one particular map;
- in case if players can't agree on rules for their game, there is a set of simple rules that should be used instead.
Possible rules (if players can't agree on something else):
- random town/hero
- sim turns/quick combat on
- no time limit (?)
- no other rules 
How we can start it?
If Ves will give his blessings and promise to add some medals or prestige points to winner , this one can be one of official subtourneys. If no, we can run it just for fun...
In any case i'm willing to help in organising all this (only there should be somebody else, who can help out with posting of results in internet - may be Fiur?)
But as for now, there are two questions to all of you:
 1)would you be interested to participe in general?
2)which map/maps you would like to see as a map for this tourney?
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Zilonite
Famous Hero
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posted May 21, 2007 01:04 PM |
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Sample answer: 
1)yes, desire to participate in such a tourney is one of my most wicked and tourmenting thoughts ever;
2)Maps:
- Heritage of Deleb;
- Ashes and Sands (what a surprise about those two, ah? )
- Battle for Honor
- DML
- may be HG
Also I wouldn't mind to make this tourney on some new map that nobody has studied in details so far...
And also random map with no specific template might be an option...
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fiur
Promising
Supreme Hero
Map Creator
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posted May 21, 2007 01:15 PM |
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Quote:
Sample answer:
1)yes, desire to participate in such a tourney is one of my most wicked and tourmenting thoughts ever;
2)Maps:
- Heritage of Deleb;
- Ashes and Sands (what a surprise about those two, ah? )
- Battle for Honor
- DML
- may be HG
Also I wouldn't mind to make this tourney on some new map that nobody has studied in details so far...
And also random map with no specific template might be an option...
I like your Idea Zilonite!
but What About Forgotten Kingdoms  (I'm currently made an version who I added an lvl.3 dwellngs on each side requested by SQ79)
I've been away for a few days now....
and yes I can help as much as I can (if you need any help
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feluniozbunio
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted May 21, 2007 03:19 PM |
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Sure i would be intrested hyhy i recommend HoD as a rush map and bfh as a large map (or medium if u prefer) I dont like bigger maps since the game is so long that i lose patience.
Also, if this is going to be single elimination id introduce some restrictions on things that are very much luck dependand such as ring of speed and staff of netherworlds
Those idems are too powerful generally in my opinion. There is no problem to lose few games to them in ladder games but when you are out because of them in single elimination tournament, it sucks.
Lets fight is a cool map too. Huge armies many artifacts and small map together.
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Elit
Famous Hero
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posted May 21, 2007 04:16 PM |
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Maybe some ppl dont like 2 weeks map. BFH is not balanced. Ashes and Sands look good if necro is ban here.
Dont think idea is good. Activity is low for this. If you want challenge start play h5+h3 or h5+h4 like me
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feluniozbunio
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted May 21, 2007 05:14 PM |
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H3 and H4 time is over, now its time for H5 If you dont like certain map you just dont play this tourney Elit, theres room for only 4/8/16 people anyway No need for more. It would be too long
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sq79
Famous Hero
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posted May 21, 2007 05:26 PM |
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Edited by sq79 at 17:28, 21 May 2007.
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Such a tourney would be nice
I like to play random town random heroes also, let fate decide all
As for banning ring and staff, i think banning 1 would be just nice, banned both will somehow make the battle sequence too easy to forsee
As for small maps, hod and dml would be nice. I think zilo and betruger's last updates really balanced the map well 
Larger ones though, bfh is not a good idea though i feel .. Player 2 seems to have a slight advantage since they tend to clear map 1-2 days faster, because 1 day can decide who gets armour + hill fort.
Anyways, i like hourglass as big maps, but i know most don't like to build 3 towns. Strangely, games there doesn't take as long as bfh so far. I was finished off in week4 day 1 last game there
Another suggestion maybe battlezone ? Tome of light is available there, also staff and ring is banned there. Only thing is.. the sphinx always asks stupid questions
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Elit
Famous Hero
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posted May 21, 2007 07:11 PM |
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H3 and H4 time is over, now its time for H5 If you dont like certain map you just dont play this tourney Elit, theres room for only 4/8/16 people anyway No need for more. It would be too long
Maybe your time is over
If you want this extra turnament you can make it very easy. Find 4/8/16 active plaers and start. You no need Ves or any other for private turnament.
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feluniozbunio
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted May 21, 2007 07:16 PM |
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And thats exactly what Zilo is trying to do here but if Ves would agree it would be much more exciting if there were some awards for winner, i have never won anything in toh yet 
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Elit
Famous Hero
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posted May 21, 2007 07:29 PM |
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I have much experienced for private turnaments in other games...main chess
1st find players...its easy ask them in MSN.
2When you have ppl make acceptable rules for all.
3 Have fun.
Why its cant be from ToH and need be private: Because all ppl need be high rank plaers. If here have alot nobies you cant end turnament fast, because they are low active. Optimal will be 8 players.
P.S. If you have problem to find last 1 i can join...but you all need report loss to me
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feluniozbunio
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted May 21, 2007 07:34 PM |
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1st find players...its easy ask them in MSN.
2When you have ppl make acceptable rules for all.
3 Have fun.
I think that will be the procedure to start tournament. But we can agree all rules here in forums.
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Why its cant be from ToH and need be private: Because all ppl need be high rank plaers.
I don't understand this.
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Elit
Famous Hero
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posted May 21, 2007 07:45 PM |
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Why its cant be from ToH and need be private: Because all ppl need be high rank plaers.
I don't understand this.
What you can't understand ?
Why need be private or why need play only hihg rank players?
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Destro23
Promising
Famous Hero
Keeper of GrongGrong
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posted May 21, 2007 08:45 PM |
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I like the idea also. I'd play for sure.
Maps I'd like
Ability
Heritage of Deleb
Battlezone
Battle for Honor
I think the best way to do that is to run multiple maps in the tourney, ie have Map Masters with divisions.. xx xx xx ect
Another idea which is something I loved when playing in the Bastards tourney was we had a blind map tournament, single elim.
I believe there were 3 map makers who put together 8 maps, which granted is a ton more work now than in h3, but yeah you were matched up and given a map to play that noone had seen before it was a blast.
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feluniozbunio
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted May 21, 2007 08:50 PM |
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Cant you just look at it in editor after you dl it? I know we can agree not too but theres always the possibility right?
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CMEPTb
Adventuring Hero
Little Angel Of Death
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posted May 22, 2007 09:42 AM |
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I'm in. Maps looks good.
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Possible rules (if players can't agree on something else):
- random town/hero
- sim turns/quick combat on
- no time limit (?)
- no other rules
Add new one option: one restart not longer first turn by both players. If they wants, of course
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Ghasteater
Known Hero
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posted May 22, 2007 10:33 AM |
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He-he seems it good idea.
Since i addicted to 1 online flash thing i will not able play more than 1-2 games per week. But hope it will be enough
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insatiable
Supreme Hero
Ultimate N00bidity
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posted May 22, 2007 11:23 AM |
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we have to bring Wyngaal back.. to mend the 'banhole'
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sq79
Famous Hero
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posted May 22, 2007 11:28 AM |
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we have to bring Wyngaal back.. to mend the 'banhole'
Wyngaal can solve the staff+ring problem...
But would be unimaginable if wyngaal has ring+ staff
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feluniozbunio
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted May 22, 2007 01:17 PM |
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One load is good idea. Everybody gets screwed sometimes its sad to lose like this... wait the sec you were saying bout restart hehe.. may be good thing too
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Jinxer
Legendary Hero
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posted May 22, 2007 01:32 PM |
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How does bringing wyngaal back help anything?
Sylvan already has the highest inititaive without rings staffs...they dont need any help.
I never understood why wyngaal was a sylvan hero to begin with. An initiative hero like this needs to belong to a town that suffers from low initative.
Its bad enough about the random first round start atb bar. If the final battle isnt ruined from that aspect the rest of the rounds NEED to be fought with the armies own merits.. adding + 20% initative or more to an entire army and other guy not having that is just to un balancing. This game is already like 80% luck based... I think map makers trying to balance the game by removing some of these factors is a good idea.
If Ubisoft woulda made this a multiplayer based game instead of a campaign based game, we wouldnt have to worry about all of this.
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