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SBlister
SBlister


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posted June 15, 2007 08:03 PM

Better names for the Alternatives

Here is a list of names that need to be changed for the alternative upgrades in the upcoming sequel Tribes of the East

ACADEMY
1. Gremlin Saboteur - Good name.
2. Marble Gargoyle - I could live with that.
3. Obsidian Golem - Gold Golem would be better but still livable.
4. Battle Mage - Good name.
5. Djinn Vizier - or Caliph. But still not too shabby.
6. Rakshasa Kshatri - Not bad.
7. Storm Lord - Not the most creative of names but still livable.

DUNGEON
1. Stalker - It's alright
2. Blood Witch - Neh. How about Blood Mistress.
3. Minotaur Captain - Excellent
4. Black Rider - Sounds like the Nazghul.
5. Acidic Hydra - How about something more realistic. I don't have an alternative name tho. Ideas anybody?
6. Shadow Mistress - Shadow Queen?
7. Red Dragon - Good

INFERNO
1. Quasit - A ripped off name but still usable.
2. Horned Leaper - I'm sure they can come up with a better name. Like Infernal Demon.
3. Firebreather - Awful name. Felhound sounds much better. Or doomhound.
4. Succubus Temptress - Good name.
5. Hellmare - Terrible name. Hell Stallion would be much better.
6. Pit Spawn - Not awe inspiring but still usable.
7. Archdemon- GRAND DEVIL!!!!

NECROPOLIS
1. Skeleton Warrior - Good name.
2. Disease Zombie - What about plaguebearer?
3. Poltergeist - Alright I guess.
4. Nosferatu - I don't like the name but I can't think of an alternative. Vampire Archon?
5. Lich Master - Lich King? Or does that sound to Warcrafty...
6. Banshee - Or revenant
7. Horror Dragon - Keep it simple. Ghost Dragon.

SYLVAN
1. Dryad - Ok
2. Bladesinger - Good
3. Sharpshooter - GRAND HUNTER!!!
4. High Druid - Good
5. White Unicorn - Regal Unicorn
6. Anger Treant - RAGING TREANT!!!
7. Rainbow Dragon - Well if the colors keep shifting then fine. If not I would suggest something different.

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Daystar
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posted June 15, 2007 08:06 PM

For Hellmare: -> Black Stallion.
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ChaosRaiders
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posted June 15, 2007 11:24 PM

Don't red dragons live outside? Dungeons live inside caves? Sorry for it but doesn't necessarily make all that nice sence that everyone needs....
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Elvin
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posted June 15, 2007 11:39 PM

Agreed for the most part. Some thoughts:
Shadow mistress is pretty good. Blood witch is not even a witch so it seems kinda...false. Acidic hydra is moronic.

Leaper, firebreather and hellmare are simply bad and unimaginative. Archdemon works.

Lich master, disease zombie and horror dragon are very bad. Lich master reminds me of some pathetic class names called like that to sound cool without even sounding logical. Plague IS a disease and horror...Nosferatu ok but that's what an alternate dracula was called due to copyright infringement so technically it's wrong. It was not the name for a race or something though I don't complain.

Why would someone want to change sharpshooter in a favour of a master/grand something? Anger treant..
The rest work pretty much fine.
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SBlister
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posted June 16, 2007 12:29 AM

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Why would someone want to change sharpshooter in a favour of a master/grand something?

An elven sharpshooter? Doesn't sound logical. Sounds like an elf with a .50 carbine rifle with a scope looking for headshots.

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Archdemon works.

Calling a devil a demon in my opinion is quite demeaning. Stick with calling Grand Devil or something awe inspiring.

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For Hellmare: -> Black Stallion.

Hahahha. Sorry. Just reminds me of the book black beauty.

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Lith-Maethor
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posted June 16, 2007 04:05 AM

um...

since when does "sharpshooter" imply the use of a gun?
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Daystar
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Back from the Dead
posted June 16, 2007 05:16 AM

Americans...
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SBlister
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Rakshasa Commander
posted June 16, 2007 07:57 AM

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sharp·shoot·er  (shärpshtr)
n.
1. One who is highly proficient at shooting.
2.
a. The second military grade of proficiency in the use of rifles and other small arms.
b. One who holds this grade of proficiency.


I rest my case. Hahahahaha. But seriously. It just doesnt sound right in the world of fantasy. Its more of a modern day thingy.

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emilsn
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posted June 16, 2007 09:39 AM

Some names sucks, yes - Some should be changed, yes - Will they do it, yes - I think they scout the forums for names that we figure out and might use them - they will fix those they dont like themself
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posted June 16, 2007 09:46 AM

I generally dislike naming grand/master/higher/lord etc, so unoriginal and boring. When you don't have any idea to name a unit, you just add one of these and voila.. bah. I really prefer "sharpshooter" than another grand/high/supreme hunter. Arch demon doesn't fit too well indeed, but so does "grand devil". There are many devilish creatures in the various myths, why not name it after them? Even Balor would sound better, and definitively better than pit spawn.

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watcher83
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Child of Malassa
posted June 16, 2007 10:03 AM

names that should be changed:
obsidian golem - gold golem
combat mage - battle mage
black rider - black raider
archdemon - Devil Marauder

looks that should be changed: red dragon (loose the armor and make it red); horror looks like a ghost dragon and since it's not a ghost dragon it shouldn't look like one; the firebreather has to go entirely(a new concept).

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VokialBG
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posted June 16, 2007 10:13 AM
Edited by VokialBG at 10:13, 16 Jun 2007.

Marble Gargoyle - Why the marble is red?.
Obsidian Golem - Gold Golem
Combat Mage -  Why not Desert Mage?
Djinn Vizier - The other one (Djinn) is sultan, sultan is higher title then vizier, but agtualy this not bad...
Rakshasa Kshatri - Bahhhhh no comment, just kuck the Rakshasas out of the game
Storm Lord - Zeus , no idea, but Storm Lord
Minotaur Captain - Pffaaaaaaa! Captain! How stupid, they don't want the have grail in the game, cause it's something from the real world, why they want to have captains, "Captain Mino to Marshal Minos do you copy, Captain Mino to the base, do you copy!"
Acidic Hydra - Super cool idea! The best name in the game (this is not sarcasm I like it)
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alcibiades
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posted June 16, 2007 12:01 PM

My personal taste ...

Quote:
ACADEMY
1. Gremlin Saboteur - Good name.
2. Marble Gargoyle - I could live with that.
3. Obsidian Golem - Gold Golem would be better but still livable.
4. Battle Mage - Good name.
5. Djinn Vizier - or Caliph. But still not too shabby.
6. Rakshasa Kshatri - Not bad.
7. Storm Lord - Not the most creative of names but still livable.


I agree with this. Gold Golem would have been obvious, and would have explained the fact that although they are made of the same material, Obsidian Gargoyles and Obsidian Golems have very different properties! Battle Mage obviously should replace Combat Mage - it just rings better. Vizier or Caliph both are fine, and I think Storm Lord (alt: Thunder Lord) sounds pretty cool.

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DUNGEON
1. Stalker - It's alright
2. Blood Witch - Neh. How about Blood Mistress.
3. Minotaur Captain - Excellent
4. Black Rider - Sounds like the Nazghul.
5. Acidic Hydra - How about something more realistic. I don't have an alternative name tho. Ideas anybody?
6. Shadow Mistress - Shadow Queen?
7. Red Dragon - Good


Blood With might create confusion with the Shadow Whitch, so for that reason it's not well chosen. Blood Mistress might work, but only if Shadow Mistress is then changed to Shadow Queen or something else. Black Rider is a natural extension of Dark Rider, so I like that one pretty well. Acidic Hydra is not the worst for me, they could also have gone for Rust Hydra or Chaos Hydra.

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INFERNO
1. Quasit - A ripped off name but still usable.
2. Horned Leaper - I'm sure they can come up with a better name. Like Infernal Demon.
3. Firebreather - Awful name. Felhound sounds much better. Or doomhound.
4. Succubus Temptress - Good name.
5. Hellmare - Terrible name. Hell Stallion would be much better.
6. Pit Spawn - Not awe inspiring but still usable.
7. Archdemon- GRAND DEVIL!!!!


Horned Leaper is actually not that bad imo., because it had to retain the prefix Horned. Hell Hound -> Felhound had been somewhat laughable, Firebreather (Hound) is not too good either. Maybe something like Brimestone Hound or simply Infernal Hound, but neither rings perfect. I like Hellmare and Pitspawn, actually, whereas Arch Demon is catastophical. The should have gone with either some Devil name - Horned Devil, Doom Devil, Death Devil - or something entirely different, like Chaos Lord.

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NECROPOLIS
1. Skeleton Warrior - Good name.
2. Disease Zombie - What about plaguebearer?
3. Poltergeist - Alright I guess.
4. Nosferatu - I don't like the name but I can't think of an alternative. Vampire Archon?
5. Lich Master - Lich King? Or does that sound to Warcrafty...
6. Banshee - Or revenant
7. Horror Dragon - Keep it simple. Ghost Dragon.


Disease Zombie is too close to Plague Zombie. Skeleton Warrior, Poltergeist, Nosferatu and Banshee all are good names to me - albeit the latter could have been called Reaper. Lich Master rings odd with the other names - why not Master Lich or Demi Lich. And Ghost Dragon would have been better than Horror Dragon.

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SYLVAN
1. Dryad - Ok
2. Bladesinger - Good
3. Sharpshooter - GRAND HUNTER!!!
4. High Druid - Good
5. White Unicorn - Regal Unicorn
6. Anger Treant - RAGING TREANT!!!
7. Rainbow Dragon - Well if the colors keep shifting then fine. If not I would suggest something different.


I think levels 1 through 4 do pretty fine. White Unicorn is, well, a bit odd, since the normal Unicorn is also ... white. I would have aimed for something like Moonlight Unicorn or Lunar Unicorn. Anger Treant sounds silly, Raging would indeed have been better, or Battle, War or even Combat Treant. Rainbow Dragon is ... well ... I guess it comes from the Luck connection, but really, that's not a good name. They could go for Blue Dragon, Sapphire Dragon, Ruby Dragon, Aquamarine Dragon ...
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Elvin
Elvin


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posted June 16, 2007 01:56 PM

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Combat Mage -  Why not Desert Mage?

That way we may even consider snow or tundra mage...

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Minotaur Captain - Pffaaaaaaa! Captain! How stupid, they don't want the have grail in the game, cause it's something from the real world, why they want to have captains, "Captain Mino to Marshal Minos do you copy, Captain Mino to the base, do you copy!"

Captain is another word for leader, have you read Ali Baba and the 40 thieves? Their leader was called a captain.

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Acidic Hydra - Super cool idea! The best name in the game (this is not sarcasm I like it)

Please tell me you are joking!
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ZombieLord
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posted June 16, 2007 02:07 PM

Acidic Hydra is not such a bad name for me, but sure it could be better... or worse

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Orfinn
Orfinn


Supreme Hero
Werewolf Duke
posted June 16, 2007 03:12 PM

My suggestions.

ACADEMY
1. Gremlin Saboteur -
2. Marble Gargoyle - but its colors looks bloody, make em sharp blue or something.
3. Obsidian Golem - as said obsidian is a shifting material, its colors can vary alot but keep a dark tone.
4. Battle Mage - because Combat Mage seems weird, even if it means the same
5. Djinn Vizier -
6. Rakshasa Kshatri - it means warrior and I love the color scheme
7. Storm Lord - like it, though Thunder Titan would be nice and please one of the members at CH

DUNGEON
1. Stalker -
2. Blood Witch -
3. Minotaur Captain -
4. Black Rider -
5. Acidic Hydra - if find it good but if another name? hmm, toxic, chaos?
6. Shadow Mistress - great, but please make the hair dye a darker teal.
7. Red Dragon - nice, finally Reddie is back! But change the sickly green leather on his back to black or something, it just dont fit!

INFERNO
1. Quasit - or dark imp...no just kiddin
2. Horned Leaper - obvious name the ability has the same name! Smog demon tnx
3. Firebreather - obvious name. even Fire Hound sounds better!
4. Succubus Temptress -
5. Hellmare - clever use of the past two names
6. Pit Spawn -
7. Archdemon- Like it because the new sets are demons, the past upg are devils. All were counted as demons but thats means liek when Gimli calls the goblins in Moria for "orcs" He just dont care for waht they are, just putting a name on it. Same with the races in Ashan, they all call em demons.

NECROPOLIS
1. Skeleton Warrior -
2. Disease Zombie -
3. Poltergeist - aand I find the name the most funny ever in any HOMM game.
4. Nosferatu - OK but I would prefer Vampire Count
5. Lich Master - Dont see whats the big fuzz is about this one. It fits very well, since his the master of his raised troops, thought of that huh? Doubt so
6. Banshee - Banshee, well femaleish name for an undead, but how can you see if thats a male or female being huh? But change the color to darker purple.
7. Horror Dragon - OK or Ghost Dragon....and purpler eyes, please. I hate pimp pink!

SYLVAN
1. Dryad -
2. Bladesinger - But please, tune down the stats, it overshadow the War Dancer stats like crazy.
3. Sharpshooter - love it but WAY TOO OVERPOWERED! either reduce the defence red ability from 75% to 50 or something.
4. High Druid - Love it, and that wolf gear...mm!
5. White Unicorn - Nice! Blinding white as I hoped for!
6. Anger Treant - Please, another name, what about Arcane, Hateful, Enraged?
7. Rainbow Dragon - hope the colors change so it fits the name!!!!

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Elvin
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Endless Revival
posted June 16, 2007 03:17 PM

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7. Storm Lord - like it, though Thunder Titan would be nice and please one of the members at CH

But I would always expect it to use 'post sarcastic comment' instead of 'call storm'
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Orfinn
Orfinn


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Werewolf Duke
posted June 16, 2007 03:20 PM

Quote:
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7. Storm Lord - like it, though Thunder Titan would be nice and please one of the members at CH

But I would always expect it to use 'post sarcastic comment' instead of 'call storm'


Yeah, lol!
Or 'mass posting'

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emilsn
emilsn


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posted June 16, 2007 08:55 PM

Good or bad

ACADEMY
1. Gremlin Saboteur -
2. Marble Gargoyle - Marble - yeah what the hell... Ill survie
3. Obsidian Golem - !! WUUHUU! Just throw away that bad gold golem and say hello to this guy! This is more new and i like it
4. Battle Mage - It got to be combat mage sorry it sucks yes but read archmages description and you will understand
5. Djinn Vizier - Vizier - Who understands that anyway! Semi good name
6. Rakshasa Kshatri - Never heard of a rakshasa before i played this game and I got a Rani and something else, and now this... Hmm?
7. Storm Lord - He is good looking and well ... Yeah Storm lord, rather good

DUNGEON
1. Stalker - not many options
2. Blood Witch - If just Iron maiden would work Its a torture instrument and good band! ... - But well... again a dead name
3. Minotaur Captain - Since there are no Minotaur kings left because they are slaves this suits well
4. Black Rider - raider, rider, dark, black, grim - A dead name once again ...
5. Acidic Hydra - New creature, new name - I respect this creativity - Maybe just Acid Hydra ? Chaos Hydra would rock too...
6. Shadow Mistress - Shadow Sorceress , but that just screams of magic and these are melee - Mistress is so ... Seductive...
7. Red Dragon -

INFERNO
1. Quasit - This is what ive heard a rip off, but aint every fantasy thing now a days?
2. Horned Leaper - Baaah! hate it... Horned Mastordont(maybe a bit to big)
3. Firebreather - Doomhound, its mean with its new breath attack so make the name evil!!
4. Succubus Temptress - Good for it do
5. Hellmare - Wuuhuu Hellmare, so lovely! Call it Hell Stallion... There are no name for this guy-
6. Pit Spawn - Spawn is not good... But have no alternative.. :S
7. Archdemon- Balor if that is good enought, but i just think it take it to far away from the whole devil thing

NECROPOLIS
1. Skeleton Warrior -
2. Disease Zombie - Aids zombie? Cancer zombie? - This again a dead name
3. Poltergeist - Just dont like the german over it ... :S I want Banshee here
4. Nosferatu - I want some kind of Vampire Knight, Vampire King ...  
5. Lich Master - I WANT BACK MY LICH KING!! WITH OLD HOMM2 SOUND!!
6. Banshee - Like the name just need to be at lvl 3! this is a reaper
7. Horror Dragon - Come on? Ghost dragon yes indeed.. Horror .. Hollow dragon ? naaah ...

SYLVAN
1. Dryad -
2. Bladesinger - (sounds beautiful, just love the blade that sings when it strikes someone)
3. Sharpshooter - Never learnt to love these in HoMM3 - but sure
4. High Druid - Arkane Druid? Elemental druid?
5. White Unicorn - Like it, but there are better . Something more Moon alike
6. Anger Treant - War treant?
7. Rainbow Dragon - maybe have to change it to be a Rainbow coloured, but that would turn out gay - Sahppire dragon is awesome...

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SBlister
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posted June 16, 2007 10:02 PM

From all your suggestions I would change my list once again.

ACADEMY
1. Gremlin Saboteur - Keep it
2. Marble Gargoyle - Keep it
3. Obsidian Golem - Gold Golem.
4. Battle Mage - Good name.
5. Djinn Vizier - Keep it.
6. Rakshasa Kshatri - Keep it. Can't be too fussy.
7. Storm Lord - alc's Thunderlord sounds more appropriate.

DUNGEON
1. Stalker - Keep it
2. Blood Witch - Blood Mistress.
3. Minotaur Captain - Excellent
4. Black Rider - Keep it. No other alternatives.
5. Acidic Hydra - Chaos Hydra. Stick with the old names.
6. Shadow Mistress - Shadow Archon. Hehe.
7. Red Dragon - Good

INFERNO
1. Quasit - Ripped off but who cares?
2. Horned Leaper - Greater Demon.
3. Firebreather - I hear Infernal hound from the others. Still no real good name.
4. Succubus Temptress - Good name.
5. Hellmare - Hell Stallion
6. Pit Spawn - Abyss Lord
7. Archdemon- still GRAND DEVIL!!!!

NECROPOLIS
1. Skeleton Warrior - Good name.
2. Disease Zombie - Rancid Zombie.
3. Poltergeist - I like emilsn's Banshee name idea here.
4. Nosferatu - Vampire Elder.
5. Lich Master - Arcane Lich
6. Banshee - Revenant or Reaper
7. Horror Dragon - Keep it simple. Ghost Dragon.

SYLVAN
1. Dryad - Ok
2. Bladesinger - Good
3. Sharpshooter - GRAND HUNTER!!!
4. High Druid - Good
5. White Unicorn - Regal Unicorn
6. Anger Treant - RAGING TREANT!!!
7. Rainbow Dragon - Well if the colors keep shifting then fine. If not I would suggest something different.

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