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Ereinion156
Ereinion156


Adventuring Hero
posted July 16, 2016 07:46 PM

Celestial Heavens is actually another community page for Heroes. But if you are searching for an improvement of Heroes 5, I can really recommend the MMH5.5 mod.

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frostysh
frostysh


Bad-mannered
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WHY?
posted July 18, 2016 12:49 AM
Edited by frostysh at 23:11, 18 Jul 2016.

Ereinion156 said:
Celestial Heavens is actually another community page for Heroes. But if you are searching for an improvement of Heroes 5, I can really recommend the MMH5.5 mod.

Nah, first I will done the campaign. But some mods to nerf this Fortress cheating runes would be nice .

I realized some things about Dungeon faction.

In the early game, Destructive Magic is not so useful, because of ~10-20 MP, and 5-16 MP per spell.. Light Magic or a Dark Magic is much more useful there.

 OR   much more useful than

So my Magic skill for Warlock Warrior, for now is:

+ or or

Then

+

And then

or or

Depending of what my mood is .  For Warlock Mage, perhaps this will be Enlightenment + Sorcery + Defense, or something.

About units, I realized that an Upgraded Maiden is much more powerful than unupgraded one, because of "No Retaliation" is deleting the problem of counter-strikes which is make a devastating damage to poor Maidens, with VERY low HP, and DEF.

have a much more survivebility than

the problem is that building which summoning a "Blood Sisters" costs a hell lot of resources ;/ .
The Minotaur is superior creature, with 30 HP, but if you hero have some Defense bonuses the Minotaur becoming a VERY powerful unit which have a good Defense/Attack.

+ .

For now it is ma' basics tactics for Dungeon Warlock Warrior, Minotaur + Defense as early as possible.

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verriker
verriker


Honorable
Legendary Hero
Blood Is Thicker Erwin Water
posted July 25, 2016 07:54 PM

hmm interesting,


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yogi
yogi


Promising
Famous Hero
of picnics
posted July 25, 2016 08:06 PM
Edited by yogi at 20:09, 25 Jul 2016.

verriker said:
hmm interesting,



indeed

"Thanks to Erwin for the contribution!"

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downloading now.  thanks for sharing!
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dredknight
dredknight


Supreme Hero
disrupting the moding industry
posted July 25, 2016 10:08 PM
Edited by dredknight at 22:09, 25 Jul 2016.

So funny and weird that they used H3 Magic guild in this game.

Something that is wonderful is the ATB bar. It looks better than what it is now and it also provides meaningful information for the "cooldown" of the unit.
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Elvin
Elvin


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Tastes like chicken
posted July 25, 2016 11:13 PM

frostysh said:
In the early game, Destructive Magic is not so useful, because of ~10-20 MP, and 5-16 MP per spell.. Light Magic or a Dark Magic is much more useful there.

Quite the opposite actually.

Getting both summoning and destructive is a waste. Actually any dual combination is bad for dungeon.

You have no reason to pick blood sisters over blood furies in creeping. The extra hp is useless because if you get hit it means you have been playing wrong in the first place. More init on the other hand is invaluable.

Using minos is not only pointless but also a bad idea. You'll lose troops without reason.
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frostysh
frostysh


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WHY?
posted July 26, 2016 01:20 AM

Elvin said:

Quite the opposite actually.

Getting both summoning and destructive is a waste. Actually any dual combination is bad for dungeon.

You have no reason to pick blood sisters over blood furies in creeping. The extra hp is useless because if you get hit it means you have been playing wrong in the first place. More init on the other hand is invaluable.

Using minos is not only pointless but also a bad idea. You'll lose troops without reason.

I have no idea how to fight vs monsters without Minotaur and Defense.
The Furies regardless of their high initiative and speed will be hunted by monsters like a crazy, if the monster have a range of >=5 and divided to few stacks, your furies in a bad trouble... A very good example - Gargoyles of Academy, Berserkers of Fortress, etc.. ;(, vs monsters like this is on the "Heroic" difficulty a perfect combination will be a Defense + Minotaur.

20 MP 6-10 MP/The Destructive spell (like ab Icebolt), 2MP/turn regeneration, yeah.... Compared to 4 mp/Slow or Haste - that is a very useful especially in combinations with an Ungraded Maidens + Hing Knowledge of Warlock is making a perfect effect with a disable spells!  
After each battle where are the Destructive Magic has been used, in the early game, you must make a refreshment in the town with Magic Guild - an amazing..

I am actually noob in multiplayer, but this information is based on my own experience.

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zaio-baio
zaio-baio


Promising
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posted July 26, 2016 01:53 AM

frostysh said:

I am actually noob in multiplayer, but this information is based on my own experience.

If you are noob in multi i suggest to try academy/havez. Throng gremlins week 1 + warmashines.

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Elvin
Elvin


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Tastes like chicken
posted July 26, 2016 09:20 AM

As for dungeon I have already covered the basic stuff in the other thread so no need to repeat things. Basic idea is that furies, stalkers and hydras (as of week 2) are all the army you need and the rest is up to your hero.
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frostysh
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posted July 26, 2016 10:20 PM
Edited by frostysh at 22:21, 26 Jul 2016.

zaio-baio - Academy is looks even more complicated for me than Inferno, anyway for now ma' way is the way of Dungeon, Inferno, and Necropolis, and Stronghold.
For Dungeon (Raelag), and Academy (Zephir) I have completed the both campaigns on "Heroic" in the previous version of the game, still in ToTE I have obly first mission for Necropolis (Artheus) so , I want to play multiplayer only with an above mentioned factions.

Elvin -
On "Heroic" my Dungeon on the start of the game have ~10,000 Cash, and ~5 amount of the each resource,

The upgraded Maidens -



5x Ore and 3x Crystals

The hydras



5x Crystals  and 9th village level :/.

Of course you need also build the Magic Guild, at least level 1, which is cost 2,000 Cash :/ .

5 - 5 - 3 = -3 Crystals, and usually Crystals, and Crystal Mines is a heavily guarded, and usually (the map 2x2 Islands, the South-West  grass Island ) the way to the +1,000 cash per week building is guarded very good, i.e. - by ~20-100 Gargoyles, which is obviously deadly to your 5-10 Ungraded maidens. Without Minos , I have no idea how to defeat such monsters without a heavy losses on my side, and how to build 'fast Hydras' .

Is there any tactics that can help me?

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Zenithale
Zenithale


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Zen Mind
posted July 26, 2016 10:48 PM

Well, long time ago, when I played to HeroesV and Dungeon (my less favourite Faction) in Heroic against Computers, I also built and recruit Minotaurs asap (especially if I can't hope to build Hydras). A group of them in a corner and in Defense position can last enough for your Hero to kill most of ennemies with his free attack every turn. So, I won't say that's bad, because like that you can capture some Mines you cannot with just Furies/Assassins and you keep them alive for later.

But, as I said, I am not really a Dungeon master, because that's my hated Faction.
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Elvin
Elvin


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Tastes like chicken
posted July 26, 2016 11:28 PM

I think I only used minos in creeping once, against a sizable stack of master hunters. They CAN help if you have not developed your sp and destructive and/or your level is low but normally destructive and stalkers can get the job done. Depending on the neutrals, it might even be worth aiming for mage guild 3. 3x3 aoe spells work nicely vs neutrals split in 4 stacks.
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frostysh
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posted July 27, 2016 08:15 PM

Elvin - thanx
When I will play next multiplayer game with Dungeon, I will try to use Stalker (Invisibility) + Destructive Magic + Upgraded Maidens (vs low range monsters) and then fast Hydras, but I have a bad feelings about this . Areas of Effect damage Destructive spells it is a good idea! I mean, I can 'bait' the enemy stacks into AoE of Earth Spikes.
I will try it.
But my tactics for now is similar to Zenithale's tactics.

But with Destructive Magic in the roll, after the each battle the Warlock must rest in the village 1 day . This is a big disadvantage comparing to Dark/Light Magic low cost and high duration spells....  

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Elvin
Elvin


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Tastes like chicken
posted July 28, 2016 05:56 AM

Only if you waste mana and/or don't pick your fights carefully. Part of the trick is getting intelligence early.
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xixuegui000
xixuegui000

Tavern Dweller
posted August 20, 2016 12:33 PM

Does anyone come to the fighting?
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frostysh
frostysh


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WHY?
posted August 20, 2016 04:14 PM

xixuegui000 said:
Does anyone come to the fighting?

Of what kind of fighting you talking about? To play map in Heroes 5: ToTE 3.1 ?

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xixuegui000
xixuegui000

Tavern Dweller
posted August 20, 2016 04:39 PM

frostysh said:
xixuegui000 said:
Does anyone come to the fighting?

Of what kind of fighting you talking about? To play map in Heroes 5: ToTE 3.1 ?

Yes,1v1,But I am a chinese,so,little word!we can use hamachi to.
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xixuegui000
xixuegui000

Tavern Dweller
posted August 20, 2016 05:12 PM

tote 3.1,map:Mystic's Vale,Epic,Limit 10 minutes per turn,I just Familiar with the dead and the dungeon,no loading,no MOD,I will use the dead in the map.
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frostysh
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WHY?
posted August 20, 2016 05:47 PM

xixuegui000 said:
tote 3.1,map:Mystic's Vale,Epic,Limit 10 minutes per turn,I just Familiar with the dead and the dungeon,no loading,no MOD,I will use the dead in the map.

I have downloaded the Hamachi, but I have a hell no idea how to configure it with the Tor Network and the Virtual Machine .

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xixuegui000
xixuegui000

Tavern Dweller
posted August 20, 2016 05:52 PM
Edited by xixuegui000 at 18:05, 20 Aug 2016.

I have downloaded the Hamachi, but I have a hell no idea how to configure it with the Tor Network and the Virtual Machine .

You need search in the net,because i can not show it in english.Need to register and manual Stickies .
I have a HAMACHI ID:xixuegui0,Password:123
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