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Heroes Community > Heroes 5 - Temple of Ashan > Thread: What faction do you hate most?
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Undead_Warrior
Undead_Warrior


Known Hero
I hear voices in my head.
posted January 06, 2008 12:00 AM

Poll Question:
What faction do you hate most?

And most important, why?

I hate the flower sniffrers and the sado maso dungeon. Sylvan are so much on the bright side that they makes you sick, and you must be a sado maso to like the dungeon creatures. I am alergic to the bright side!

Responses:
Stronghold
Fortress
Necropolis
Inferno
Academy
Dungeon
Haven
Sylvan
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Homer171
Homer171


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posted January 06, 2008 01:04 AM

Sylvan for me as well. I like to play whit them but as an enemy they are quite annoying. I like all towns but Necropolis is the only what i don't like to play whit, unless i really wish to give some handicap to weaker player.
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fiur
fiur


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posted January 06, 2008 01:16 AM

Quote:
I like all towns but Necropolis is the only what i don't like to play whit, unless i really wish to give some handicap to weaker player.


Then you should try to play en "real" necro player one day  

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xerox
xerox


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posted January 06, 2008 01:33 AM
Edited by xerox at 01:35, 06 Jan 2008.

Necro.

They are veru annoying to play against (spectres...) and you must have dark magic to make them powerful and fun to play.

I dont like Academy either.
Why are they in a desert with muslim clothes and childish creatures?

And inferno si quite annoying because you cant win with them unless you have a War Machines.

But my list for the three most annoying factions is:

1. Academy
2. Inferno & Necropolis, same place.

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Desscythe-17
Desscythe-17

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posted January 06, 2008 09:25 AM

i don't like fortress the most

i vote on the fortress because i hate those runes(kinda boring) and their 7th level creature is AGAIN a dragon, i think there are enough dragons in the game and we don't need those dwarves because they are copies with runes and skills and abillities i don't understand!!!

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DarkShadow
DarkShadow


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posted January 06, 2008 09:36 AM

i vote academy,theyre too balanced.

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Desscythe-17
Desscythe-17

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searching for my master:Titan
posted January 06, 2008 09:39 AM

i almost forgot to make a top three.....

ah well...
i rate them all


1st place(most hated)FORTRESS i did already explain why....
2nd place NECROPOLIS they're not really boring ore dumb but in a long fight (i love long fights) you cannot win with those stupid bone/spectral/ghost dragons
3rd place DUNGEON it's not kinda wrong but i hate the population it is so less (there's nothing wrong with shadow and black dragon:the only dragons i like)
4th place euhhh  STRONGHOLD ? i don't like their creatures but i don't have TotE so i don't really know.....
5th place HAVEN mmmm......in the begin i like to fight with them but on the end they are to expensive.... and they don't have anything of extraordinary powers.....
6th place SYLVAN less population but i like their druids,hunters and treants
7th place INFERNO kinda cool with their unholy fire..but like Xerox said: you really do need war machines
8th place(most liked by me)ACADEMY it's a bit childish but i can truly win with it and i love the thunder of the mighty titan and djinns,mages,golems and rakshasas are so cool!

this was desscythe-17 live from HOLLAND

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HartZa
HartZa


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posted January 06, 2008 11:05 AM

Academy & Haven since they are better (im)balanced than other factions. Fortress is at 3rd position.

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emilsn
emilsn


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posted January 06, 2008 11:21 AM

Haven is such a boring faction. You play them to much, you play against them to much and then you just get sick of them.. irritatiing

Necro and academy is boring too.. But mostly because i suck at playing them
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Moonlith
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posted January 06, 2008 11:45 AM

Stronghold.

Retarded lineup featuring an admittedly cool beast POSING for a cyclops just because they gave it a single eye, unique skills on level up that tear it completely out of the system and give it a unique special seat, a retarded racial skill that was made BEFORE the creatures, after which the CREATURES instead of the racial got nerfed (in HP) just to make sure it wasn't TOO overpowered, and frankly, I really don't like the lore of orcs being demon/human hybrids.

With orcs you can really tell that the statistics were made just to fit the racial skill and not to fit the creature itself.

Lamest Stronghold faction ever in the history of heroes of might n magic, regardless wether or not it is fun to one-hit-KO enemies with them.

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Elvin
Elvin


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posted January 06, 2008 11:59 AM

Funny I could say the exact opposite As for what was made first you can't really tell, apart from low hp the units are pretty decent. Liking the lore or not is another matter.
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Adrius
Adrius


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Undefeatable Hero
Stand and fight!
posted January 06, 2008 12:13 PM

I hate all factions controlled by a player with cowardly tactics.

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Moonlith
Moonlith


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posted January 06, 2008 12:16 PM

Oh come on

- They aint cyclops! They are big monsters with a single eye. If there had been no requirement for it being a Cyclops, it would have had two eyes and was named something different. Exact same beast.

- The fact they have completely unique skills suchas shout and shatter magic is plain wrong. It puts them on an elevated, special cushioned seat from which they can look down upon all the other factions who are bound in the same system. It's like making a completely new set of gameplay rules for a single faction - whatever limits and balances had been set for the first 6 races and to some extent Fortress, don't apply to Stronghold.

- Decent units? Every single Stronghold creature has HP below average for its tier level with the exception of the shamans and tier 7 beast (I'll restrain myself from calling it cyclops). Typically the paokai have decent HP and that's because bloodrage doesn't affect them!

- On top of it all, you are FORCED to play a certain strategy - keep moving just so you don't lose that highly valuable bloodrage without which the faction would completely suck. Without which their troops would fall even faster than demons.

Instead of making an interesting might faction which simply doesn't concentrate as much on magic, they designed a complete new set of rules for them. It just doesn't fit with the other factions.

It's like a Zerg faction in the middle of 7 Proton factions. And for Starcraft that concept worked, but for heroes of might and magic, it doesn't, unless you make all other 7 factions as well totally unique. Which is not the case.

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Elvin
Elvin


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posted January 06, 2008 12:37 PM

Quote:
- They aint cyclops! They are big monsters with a single eye.
Quote:

Uh huh. And what do you think cyclopses are? Ok maybe it should look more humanoid but a game has the freedom of lore

Quote:
- The fact they have completely unique skills suchas shout and shatter magic is plain wrong. It puts them on an elevated, special cushioned seat from which they can look down upon all the other factions who are bound in the same system. It's like making a completely new set of gameplay rules for a single faction - whatever limits and balances had been set for the first 6 races and to some extent Fortress, don't apply to Stronghold.

Right and why is that necessarily bad? There is more strategy in overcoming them with the usual tactics. Besides shout is the equivalent of sorcery and shatter a counter instead of use of magic. I think it's fair enough.

Yes the units are pretty decent considering the insane boosts they get from the barbarian And I am not even considering the rage bonuses.

Quote:
- On top of it all, you are FORCED to play a certain strategy - keep moving just so you don't lose that highly valuable bloodrage without which the faction would completely suck. Without which their troops would fall even faster than demons.

Ah but you are wrong there. Defending will only cost you 30 rage which you will prefer at times. In the need for attack I see something unique and more interesting than the usual turtling and cowardly tactics.

As you have often said you are too traditional and will not accept interesting new rules when you see them. Free your mind
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Cleave
Cleave


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posted January 06, 2008 12:52 PM

I don't like Haven because it is too "standard" I like their design but I find them too formulaic and a bit boring. Still Training is a fearsome ability (allowing for really LARGE stacks of Paladins).

Quote:
- The fact they have completely unique skills suchas shout and shatter magic is plain wrong. It puts them on an elevated, special cushioned seat from which they can look down upon all the other factions who are bound in the same system. It's like making a completely new set of gameplay rules for a single faction - whatever limits and balances had been set for the first 6 races and to some extent Fortress, don't apply to Stronghold.


I see your point but I like the Stronghold (a lot) trouble is the AI can't play them and any human player facing them is going to get Dark Magic because Barbarians can't do much against PM and Frenzy (even with Shatter Dark).

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I like all towns but Necropolis is the only what i don't like to play whit, unless i really wish to give some handicap to weaker player.


No offence but I don't see the Necropolis as a weak faction. Creatures immune to many annoying effects. No losses, endless mana with Mark of the Necromancer and free extra creatures every week. That sounds good to me. Still, it's a matter of taste.

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Lathspell
Lathspell


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The Great White
posted January 06, 2008 01:23 PM

Though I like the big goblin throwers (funny as hell and damn strong) the most hated faction for me would be stronghold. Nice creatures, nice abilities, but way to dependent on blood rage, which can be easily taken care of with some focus. I rather hate the fact that you only gain 100 blood rage per attack (melee) but you loose a few hundreds when you're attacked. And of course, I really hate the fact that they have no real spells, just those little cries...

1. Stronghold
2. Dungeon - even though I like magic over might, an entire faction that is entirely dependable on destructive spells is a bit too much...And I'm sick of the new creatures. Dark elves? Lame.
3. Academy - well I used to like ranged races, and I still do, but as I see, they just don't work well in Heroes 5. And their spells value quantity over quality (aka more knowledge, less spellpower). Though it would be nice if you could actually get their ultimate and have all the spells at expert level.
4. Fortress - Nice little guys. Love the Magma dragons. They're a real pain to take down.And the Thanes are nice, but the rest of the creatures are a bit to lame for my taste. (With the exception of the black bears).
5. Silvan-Haven - I don't really have any likes or dislikes about these factions. They're really nice, both really offense oriented, can take care of battles rather fast. Sweet creatures too (angels, Paladins,  Crystals, Arcane Archers).
6, Necropolis - Just my fav. Dark magic is pretty much my favorite magic school, and I love the bonuses of undead creatures, even though they are kinda weak. Love theirs specials too.

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Elvin
Elvin


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Endless Revival
posted January 06, 2008 01:31 PM

Actually I'm glad you only gain 100 rage lest stronghold get unbeatable. In a long game they have few losses and as a counter to the focus there is call of blood or fear my roar. Yes you can focus on one unit but in the meantime the others will continue to accumulate rage, that is the point.
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Seraphim
Seraphim


Supreme Hero
Knowledge Reaper
posted January 06, 2008 01:34 PM

1.Academy-Can not stand them they just suck
2.Inferno is the underpowered faction in my sight so nr 2 in statistics.
3.Sylvan
4.Fortress
5.Dungeon
6.Haven
7.Stronghold
8.Necropolis My favorite.I made my personal mod that buffed them with inferno.
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Anakrom
Anakrom


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posted January 06, 2008 01:37 PM

I donīt like Academy and Inferno. Academy have ugly town and creatures, doesnīt have many weak points, and I donīt like the idea of using artifacts too. Inferno doesnīt suit me, I despise depending on Warmachines, dwellings are costly and creatures fragile.

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skullman
skullman


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banned
posted January 06, 2008 01:38 PM

Sylvan cause they are a bit overpowered i mean about the druids and hunters and crystal dragons
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