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Heroes Community > Tournament of Honor > Thread: Battle for Honor for TOE
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Elvin
Elvin


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
posted January 29, 2008 11:21 AM

Actually he's right, it's not about both having it - it ruins part of the planning and making good choices. Consider it part of the 'personal' difficulty. Thanks for the effort though
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Infinitus
Infinitus


Supreme Hero
posted January 29, 2008 11:41 AM

Memory mentor add a bit more freedom in game, i like it ... I have last game on Dragon Pass... Reach level 23, still no light magic offered ... Memory mentor can help in this situation ....

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Jinxer
Jinxer


Legendary Hero
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posted January 29, 2008 02:27 PM

Yes memory mentor can be good if used in that fashion Infintius... BUT unfortunately, it is abused.  People take every skill and ability offered from every witch hut not matter how junky it is... just so they can go to mentor and change it into something they really want.. So on a map that normally wouldnt beable to get Ultimate skill... not you can get it easily everytime.

I was forced to make memory mentor way less accessable on my newest verison of BattleZone-v2.4
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okrane
okrane


Famous Hero
posted January 29, 2008 06:07 PM

so you prefer maps without it?

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godlyatheist
godlyatheist


Adventuring Hero
posted January 29, 2008 07:15 PM

Quote:
Yes memory mentor can be good if used in that fashion Infintius... BUT unfortunately, it is abused.  People take every skill and ability offered from every witch hut not matter how junky it is... just so they can go to mentor and change it into something they really want.. So on a map that normally wouldnt beable to get Ultimate skill... not you can get it easily everytime.

I was forced to make memory mentor way less accessable on my newest verison of BattleZone-v2.4


If a map has 3 hut, then one player gets 2 useful skill form them and the other player get useless ones, the first player has an advantage simply because he's lucky. The mentor can fix the misfortune of the second player, albeit at a price. If the mentor isn't avilable the second guy is screwed, especially later when every skill counts. I don't see whats wrong in this situation when the first player retains an advantage in gold and time spend at mentor. Besides, to get the ultimate when you are missing a crucial perk you're gonna have to spend ~10k to get it. Why, erasing one perk doesn't mean you get the other one, even if you have the requriement. Often you have to erase a whole skill tree to get the skill/perk you want. Heck, I had to spend 20k worth of gold just to get Master of Wrath to show up(I was pissed).

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Infinitus
Infinitus


Supreme Hero
posted January 30, 2008 07:15 AM
Edited by Infinitus at 07:16, 30 Jan 2008.

In my latest game on Hg i spend 40k to reach ultimate

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vesuvius
vesuvius

Hero of Order
Honor Above all Else
posted January 30, 2008 09:22 AM

or simply raise the difficulty of the map to heroic, or reduce the resource amounts so you don't have an easy 40k lying around for skill changes.
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okrane
okrane


Famous Hero
posted January 30, 2008 12:19 PM

In a 2 month game I think paying 40k for an ultimate is reasonable.
I mean, the skill advantage could be compensated by the large army or artifacts one can buy with that money... imho

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Infinitus
Infinitus


Supreme Hero
posted January 30, 2008 12:38 PM

I finish my game on HG, i have Ossir with ultimate, i lost to evil warlock FireDragon-008 First battle hit and run - 1/3 of my army dead in 1 second ... Second battle warlock move first, armaggedon, all my army dead ...  Played many hours, hard thinking, and final battle one second long So memory mentor not so powerful ..

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samiekl
samiekl


Supreme Hero
posted January 30, 2008 12:47 PM
Edited by samiekl at 12:50, 30 Jan 2008.

If dungeon can beat you so easily on HG, it says enough of your skill with sylvan.

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Infinitus
Infinitus


Supreme Hero
posted January 30, 2008 01:26 PM
Edited by Infinitus at 13:28, 30 Jan 2008.

I know i not so good But look at statistic of FireDragon, he is unbeatable at the moment ... http://www.toheroes.com/info204.asp?playername=FireDragon-008&gameversion=5
I think ultimate was not good for this case, better to take in this case  light magic fire resistance ....

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samiekl
samiekl


Supreme Hero
posted January 30, 2008 01:36 PM

Statistics say nothing

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fiur
fiur


Promising
Supreme Hero
Map Creator
posted January 30, 2008 02:27 PM

Quote:
Statistics say nothing

Wrong it says everything.... !!  
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samiekl
samiekl


Supreme Hero
posted January 30, 2008 02:35 PM

Really??? Check my statistics, what does that say about me? Or better, check the statistics of a player who you played much with. What do they say about him? An compare with what you know about that specific player.

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akaihane
akaihane


Hired Hero
posted January 30, 2008 02:48 PM

Statistic on toh ranking means nothing...until there's a ranking system similar to battle net ladder , this toh ranking is just for record purpose. You can play with all the crappy players and get perfect score but another better player can be playing with all the experts and get average scores. In Homm , luck , map/race determines the outcome of the match if played by 2 experts. Even though I'm new to Homm5 but my experiences with homm1-3 tells me so.

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Elvin
Elvin


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
posted January 30, 2008 03:43 PM

Yep, luck, playing with an unfamiliar faction/map can really give misleading results. Looking at my score with samiekl you could assume that I am much better but that could not be further from the truth. Besides if I played only newbies and had a 30-0 score would it mean I am invincible?
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fiur
fiur


Promising
Supreme Hero
Map Creator
posted January 30, 2008 04:51 PM

Quote:
Really??? Check my statistics, what does that say about me? Or better, check the statistics of a player who you played much with. What do they say about him? An compare with what you know about that specific player.


for the record I know about everything of my opponents (when I'm involved) I'm using excel and write everything "down"  
Elvin has looked at my excel file... he knows what I'm talking about...
when it comes to firedragon  well I know he is an good player just test yourself samiekl....
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samiekl
samiekl


Supreme Hero
posted January 30, 2008 04:55 PM

I'm not saying he's not. I just said that you cant judge a player by the numeber of wins/losses he has, because you're not accurate.

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Elvin
Elvin


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
posted January 30, 2008 04:58 PM

I know fiur's point, he has played too many times with each one to know I was commenting more on people you have played a few times only.
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fiur
fiur


Promising
Supreme Hero
Map Creator
posted January 30, 2008 05:32 PM

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I'm not saying he's not. I just said that you cant judge a player by the numeber of wins/losses he has, because you're not accurate.

thats true... just look at me.... so far 82-86 but still a Lord..
 so everything is possible
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