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Heroes Community > Other Side of the Monitor > Thread: Acts of war
Thread: Acts of war
antipaladin
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posted February 04, 2008 12:58 PM

Acts of war

Today at 10:30 am by israel clock 2 arabic suicide terrorist from the
soilders of al akza and soliders of abu ali mustafa and another unkown orgensition have breached throw the Rafih passage and managed to get to the Dimona Trade Center and one of them managed to explode inside.
1 woman died,and 38 civilians including woman old and childern are hospitalised. the other one was shot dead by a police officer before managing to detonate.


No metter what,we incaged war on the soilders,on the politics,not on the civilans,by what right did they killed our woman and childern? Israel should relatie and by just,what would you do if this would have happend to you country? what would happen then? why must israel stand thouse atrocitys?!
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baklava
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posted February 04, 2008 03:08 PM

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No metter what,we incaged war on the soilders,on the politics,not on the civilans,by what right did they killed our woman and childern? Israel should relatie and by just,what would you do if this would have happend to you country?

It did happen to my country.
What I've learned is that retaliating on civilians is never justified. And it leads only to more deaths of your own civilians.
It is a hard situation that you find yourself in, but Muslim civilians aren't any more guilty for that than Israeli ones.

And you cannot engage selective war - just on soldiers and politics. You're either at war or not. And war, by itself, brings dead innocents with it. There are no righteous wars, there is no chivalry, there is no fair warfare. That's just the way it goes.

"It is well that war is so terrible, lest we grow too fond of it."
Confederate general Robert E. Lee, in the American civil war
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antipaladin
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posted February 04, 2008 06:10 PM

But war has it own  rules...Those who overgo it are called war criminals right?
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posted February 04, 2008 06:27 PM

I don't think they care how they're called or whether they break the rules as long as they win.
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antipaladin
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posted February 04, 2008 06:31 PM

Well Milosevich is triled for War crimes and crimes against humenity.
then why some arent if war is unfair asyou say,'War crimes' are just the losing side so its a tad hypocriticle.. dont you think so?
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Geny
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posted February 04, 2008 06:42 PM

Again, history is written by the victors. Nothing new in that. Sadly...
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posted February 04, 2008 07:12 PM
Edited by Seraphim at 19:13, 04 Feb 2008.

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Well Milosevich is triled for War crimes and crimes against humenity.
then why some arent if war is unfair asyou say,'War crimes' are just the losing side so its a tad hypocriticle.. dont you think so?



I do not understand this?Milosevic started the war and was sent to tribunal for war crimes for killing Civilians.As the whole balkan war was although only against civillians in my opinion.

As for the suicide bombers,well they just die.Is dying and killing the answer for peace?They are leaded by hatred and that leads to nothing.Poor are those who must leave their lives for doing nothing bad to anyone.

Hate breeds hate just like lies breed hate.
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antipaladin
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posted February 04, 2008 08:24 PM

Didnt expect that statement from you seraphim? are you finally seing the truth?

note that in the palastinan villiages was a holyday and childern ware given candys as celebration of the death of the civilans..makes me want to go all mad but not without reatlition,one of the leaders of the people's front,an organstion that semi responbicbull for todays hit,was taken out by IDF.

makes me want to go snowher citezens but then ill decent to they're levels.

No,Too late for peace. Untill Israel will counqer the entire middle east we will kept be bugged.

Olmart Ehod Israel's Prime minister Does not resignes despite the blame for the last war failer. the death of 119 israely soliders,and still 3 soliders are at imprisoned by the Hizballah,Syria and Iran.450 Arabic Prisoners,responcbile for meny deaths are going to be realised for Gilad shalit,on of the soliders imprisoned.

I say,murder of the prisoners will bring justice. The hizballah keeps poling the Shalit Card whenever they're in trouble. This Cannot be tolerated...
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Geny
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posted February 04, 2008 08:28 PM

Yeeeah... now why don't go take a cold shower and start thinking how we can end this circle of violence instead of drowning middle east in blood?
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antipaladin
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posted February 04, 2008 08:32 PM

How can you really end this? our leaders are as much currpt as they'res are. the Cold war never really ended did it? as USA and Russia steal compeat over power in here.
Israel stands as american intersets becouse of the oil,and Well,Syria stands for russian intersts.. and Iran..has it own instersts..

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Geny
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posted February 04, 2008 08:39 PM

First of, I may be wrong but I don't remember a Cold War in Yeltsin's times.

Second, we managed to get to at least decent relationships with Egypt, Jordan and even Lebanon (read: NOT Hizballah). All that's left are Syria and Palestine.
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posted February 04, 2008 08:44 PM

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Yeeeah... now why don't go take a cold shower and start thinking how we can end this circle of violence instead of drowning middle east in blood?


So long as there is profit in all of the bloodshed, there will be no peace.
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antipaladin
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posted February 04, 2008 08:45 PM

and what about frindly Iran Geny?

Quite oberservtive OD. I wont be surpised if kosovo-serb conflict is something - money realted too.
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posted February 04, 2008 08:49 PM

What about it?
It wasn't that hostile a few years back when Ahma-whatshisname wasn't in charge. If keep the midget at bay until his reign ends it might not be hostile as well.
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antipaladin
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posted February 04, 2008 08:55 PM

Ahamanidjat is not something to be temped with,i think its a thread..Iran is becoming a second soviet union,sending space oribter and all..modernization and yet seemimgly religouse..contradiction..they are up to something,I dont trust them.
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posted February 04, 2008 09:11 PM
Edited by OD at 21:14, 04 Feb 2008.

I highly doubt anybody trusts Iran.  I personally don't, but I'm not for the destruction of Israel and I thought the study on the Holocaust being a "myth" was a hoot.  But really, is there any nation out there that fully trusts the intentions of another?  In my opinion, the world only survives through a very fragile balance of power and fear that war would lead to total annihilation.
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antipaladin
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posted February 04, 2008 10:38 PM

eventually though,our goals are the same,each country want to sucedd prospaer and defend itself,Israel isent a radical state,Avigador Liberman isent the prime minister yet,this whole fear certian is wrong.
trade is what keeps interst going right? money?
The usa LOSES money in iraq now..the doller decents,its on its way for a cosotrophical american bankrupcy and money problam.then again highing everything on one coinge everyware..that be better..
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Moonlith
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posted February 04, 2008 10:56 PM

I really don't think this ever ends.

The day it ends is when palestinians and Israelis protest hand in hand against this pointless war.

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posted February 04, 2008 11:29 PM

It only ends when people start to realize the only thing they are destroying is the future.  
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posted February 05, 2008 12:05 AM

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I really don't think this ever ends.

The day it ends is when palestinians and Israelis protest hand in hand against this pointless war.


A lot actually are. Not a majority but a lot of Isrealis and muslims have come hand in hand complaining about it.
The problem of course is that the voilencen is not only terrible, its also too much spread thinly. should be fast and furious as a retaliation not suffering that lasts for an era. Too slowly like this not only doesnt result in peace. It results in war lasting longer.
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