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Heroes Community > Heroes 5 - Modders Workshop > Thread: [Request] Anyone tried green orcs yet?
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Elvin
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posted February 12, 2008 12:44 AM
Edited by VokialBG at 19:49, 13 Feb 2008.

[Request] Anyone tried green orcs yet?

While I don't really mind stronghold the way it is I feel that a green skin tone would be more natural to the orcs. Has anyone experimented with them so far?
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Wulfstan8182
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posted February 12, 2008 02:09 AM

BIGJOKER sort of did for his Quicksilver2 mod, but he only got the goblins done.
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posted February 12, 2008 04:09 AM

Quote:
While I don't really mind stronghold the way it is I feel that a green skin tone would be more natural to the orcs. Has anyone experimented with them so far?


reminds me of H3...

*sorry for that off-topic*

hmm, maybe ur right the green color maybe will suit them better


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DarkShadow
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posted February 12, 2008 04:27 PM

Exluding bloodeye cyclops and poison wyvern's.

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posted February 13, 2008 03:21 AM

The problem with green orcs is that they aren't exactly the type of Orcs you'd expect. Here is the briefing:

Goblins are not Orcs. They are part of a faction that consists of Orcs. Goblins are correctly colored based on their appearance in other stories.

Centaurs...need I explain

Maulers, okay they can be green

Shamans, yes

Slayers, yes

Wyverns, not Orcs

Cyclops, not Orcs

Though the game has a different definition of Orc, my definition is still based on Tolkien's Orcs.

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VokialBG
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posted February 13, 2008 09:00 AM

In "the Hobbit" the goblins are separate race. And actually I think they were brown or black, anyway not green. But imp they will look better green in H5.
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posted February 13, 2008 02:19 PM

who, goblins? i think we should leave it as it is, orcs and goblins are 2 differant things. Nival was just dumb enough to use the name.
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Elvin
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posted February 13, 2008 03:24 PM

I only mentioned orcs though wyverns would obviously look better in a light green tone. Shamans, centaurs, goblins and cyclopses look pretty good as they are but looking at a slayer makes me wish they did not have that sickly half brown half green skin... Warriors look even worse.
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MrDragon
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posted February 13, 2008 08:02 PM

Usualy I'd be all for this idea BUT:
The lore of Heroes V makes it highly illogical from a simple artistic perspective.

A simple breeding chart:
Tiger + Lion = Liger (Not making this up, its fact.)
Likewise (as far as Heroes V is concerned, and only Heroes V.)
Demon + Human = Orc (This includes Goblins who are an Imp/Human hybrid and Centaurs who are a Nightmare/Human hybrid.)

(Heroes V)Demon =/= green    (I know plenty of Demons from other books/games that are green.)
Human =/= green        (Unless exposed to excessive gamma radiation and then become really angry )
So.... if you add that up:
Orc =/= green

As much as I prefer green orcs, it would make no sense.

If the mod is made I'd still use it though

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posted February 13, 2008 08:31 PM
Edited by Cepheus at 14:52, 14 Feb 2008.

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In "the Hobbit" the goblins are separate race.


As a matter of fact Orcs and Goblins were one and the same in Tolkien's books.  The movies had a different opinion.

A mod like this might go pretty well with LotA... and if you take a look at the painting which shows up when you launch the TotE exe (before the title screen, the one with Orcs fighting Renegades), you can clearly see a Goblin with green skin.

I might as well try making this, it's an interesting idea.

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Elvin
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posted February 13, 2008 08:57 PM

Thanks ceph And about logical or not I don't really mind, my request is a matter of preference not lore.
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Lord_of_Chaos
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posted February 14, 2008 12:06 AM

The goblin trapper looks great. Green suits him IMO.
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Wulfstan8182
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posted February 14, 2008 12:13 AM

they look good. but i don't understand how it fits into Nival's legend that they are part human part orc.
[sort of off topic] the shaman's necklace that covers her titts is separated from the body texture. so if you alpha it, they will be topless! [/sort of off topic]
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Elvin
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posted February 14, 2008 12:24 AM

Biology does not say anywhere that offspring have to share their parents' characteristics. For all you know the demons have a green skin genome that is not commonly expressed I forget the term.

And as I said who cares about the lore, mods are for fun.
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MrDragon
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posted February 14, 2008 09:39 AM

You saying all demons have a recessive allele for green skin that acts as a dominant allele towards pink skin?
I can roll with that
(I'm a Biology specialist, so dun start talking genes with me unless you want to get drowned in discussion at a highly educated level.)

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VokialBG
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posted February 14, 2008 09:44 AM

Even in the genetics its possible If the 2 parents have recessive green skin indication
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Elvin
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posted February 14, 2008 02:32 PM

@MrDragon
Actually that would be interested, I always liked biology. Bad thing is that I never learnt the terms in English so some are harder to explain.

I see the green orc army is amassing, great so far! Especially the slayer, I felt that colour was what was really missing
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phoenixreborn
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posted February 14, 2008 08:38 PM

The genetics explanation is hilarious.

Mod looks good too, green works well.

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Cepheus
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posted February 14, 2008 11:05 PM
Edited by Cepheus at 18:30, 15 Feb 2008.

Here's the mod.  There's a few screenshots I haven't bothered with yet, but all the Orc units have been turned green here.

I didn't change the Centaurs, Wyverns or Cyclopes at all - they're not Orcs

To install it just put it in the UserMODs folder inside the TotE directory.

EDIT: V2 - without Shaman and brighter icons:

http://www.mediafire.com/?8tiz2viujfd

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Elvin
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posted February 14, 2008 11:26 PM

Awesome, downloading
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