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Heroes Community > Library of Enlightenment > Thread: Worst upgrade in Heroes III
Thread: Worst upgrade in Heroes III This thread is 7 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 · «PREV
Baronus
Baronus


Promising
Supreme Hero
posted July 04, 2016 08:50 AM

Upgrade dwarves is weak to:
http://heroes.thelazy.net/wiki/Dwarf_and_Battle_Dwarf
1 to attack = 5%
+ 67 speed
+ 20% magic resistance but it can destroy your boosting dwarves spell :-)
cost 25% more. Cheap but upg. is weak too...

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forgottenpw
forgottenpw


Hired Hero
posted July 04, 2016 09:48 AM

the problem with all of those is:

1000000% of 0 is still 0
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Baronus
Baronus


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posted July 04, 2016 01:17 PM
Edited by Baronus at 13:18, 04 Jul 2016.

Upg. pikemans:
http://heroes.thelazy.net/wiki/Pikeman
Attack 2 = 10%
Speed + 25%
damages + 25%
Not a lot but cheap cost + 25%.
Zombie a bit better. But this unit is strong.

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PandaTar
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posted July 04, 2016 04:03 PM

Particularly, never fancied much Demons -> Horned Demons. +5 HP and + 1 speed. However low the stats might be, the unit is still cheap, adding 20 gold for its price, but very bad for a Lv 4 unit, not adding any sort of abilities either. The upgrade itself is almost nonexistent.
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phoenix4ever
phoenix4ever


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posted July 04, 2016 04:14 PM
Edited by phoenix4ever at 18:16, 04 Jul 2016.

PandaTar said:
Particularly, never fancied much Demons -> Horned Demons. +5 HP and + 1 speed. However low the stats might be, the unit is still cheap, adding 20 gold for its price, but very bad for a Lv 4 unit, not adding any sort of abilities either. The upgrade itself is almost nonexistent.

An ability for Horned Demons would have been nice, especially for a level 4 unit, probably should'nt be too powerful though, since demons can be farmed.

Edit: Or Pit Lords could make Horned Demons instead?

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OhforfSake
OhforfSake


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posted July 04, 2016 04:32 PM

Imagine you have 120 Demons for easy numbers, this will probably be your main damage dealing stack in an end battle, the total hp of the stack is 4200 or equivalent to that of 14 high hp lvl 7 units. If you upgrade your Demon Stack you gain 600 hp or the equivalent of 2 more lvl 7 units hp wise. The upgrade definitely isn't a must do, but it's neither something that is pretty certain to be wasted.

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PandaTar
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posted July 04, 2016 04:52 PM

Yes, demons excuse for being what they are comes down to pit lords in the end, another costy strange upgrade those are linked.
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Baronus
Baronus


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posted July 04, 2016 05:23 PM

Horneys:
http://heroes.thelazy.net/wiki/Demon_and_Horned_Demon
Speed + 20%
Health + 14%
Poor upgrade... but... cost! ONLY 8% more. Very very cheap.
Of course upgrade is very weak in end of upgrades.
Additionaly there is problem to add new non upgraded to upgraded after battle. Upgrade should be better.
Sceletons and horneys ability is fast additional growth :-) Enough :-)

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JollyJoker
JollyJoker


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posted July 04, 2016 05:57 PM

Technically spoken, the worst upgrade is Gnoll to Gnoll Marauder. You gain the least improvement, plus the upgrade costs 10 Wood which you can't afford, and with every other upgrade being more important, there you go.

The demon upgrade isn't that great either and has the disadvantage that demon resurrection isn't working like with Skeletons which is a pity.

On the other hand, while Skeletons can be resurrected as Warriors, getting the full amount is, in my opinion, better than the upgrade amount.

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Anil
Anil


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posted July 04, 2016 06:01 PM

Pit Lord upgrade is worst 200 more gold for +1 speed.
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JollyJoker
JollyJoker


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Undefeatable Hero
posted July 04, 2016 06:13 PM

If you think you pay for +1 speed you didn't understand the game.

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Anil
Anil


Known Hero
posted July 04, 2016 06:24 PM

Demon farming is useless. You are paying more 200 gold but you can't gain new unit. Just trade hp by hp.
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Baronus
Baronus


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posted July 04, 2016 07:08 PM

forgottenpw said:
the problem with all of those is:

1000000% of 0 is still 0


But percent calculation is correctly.
If you have phonix with 21 speed +1 is only 5% growth, zombie +1 is 33% growth. Its not the same!
Health too. 5 health for black dragon is 2 % growth, for peasant 500% growth!
Only percent calculation is ok.
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Lords give horneys it is powerfull ability 1,5 for battle!

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