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Berny-Mac
Berny-Mac


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Lord Vader
posted June 29, 2008 08:22 PM

Poll Question:
New Bone Dragons!!!

Okay I have made some alternatives to the bone dragons.

1.vampire dragon- has undead ability, no retaliation, life drain, and unlimited retaliation. bout as strong as reg. bone dragon but these skills makes it a killer

2.ghost dragon(a new one)- has undead ability, incorporeality, andaging(from homm3). stronger than bone dragon

3.Dark Angel- has undead ability, revive dead, and no retaliation.
bout as strong as an angel

if you any other's i'll try to add em' to da list
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Vampire Dragon
Ghost Dragon
Dark Angel
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alcibiades
alcibiades


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of Gold Dragons
posted June 29, 2008 08:35 PM

This would belong in the Modder's Workshop and will probably be transfered there shortly.
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Fauch
Fauch


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posted June 29, 2008 09:37 PM

is there an aging ability in the game?

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DagothGares
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No gods or kings
posted June 29, 2008 11:02 PM

No matter, they look imba...

I want em
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DagothGares
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No gods or kings
posted June 29, 2008 11:02 PM

No matter, they look imba...

I want em
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Berny-Mac
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Lord Vader
posted June 30, 2008 02:01 AM

@Fauch: no there isn't, but there should
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red_sparrow
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posted June 30, 2008 04:32 AM

of the 3 i voted dark angel...i think it's a cool idea, and i think if the dark angel were to be added to the necropolis, the death knight should take its place as the tier 6 creature to counterbalance the haven
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sith_of_ziost
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posted June 30, 2008 04:52 AM

All right, a master of the Necropolis should now step in to voice his opinion. As he is out right now, I shall voice it for him. Changing the Tier 7 to an Angel is contradictory to established Necromancy. In the game, it is impossible to raise an Angel ("a being of pure light") as an Undead, so that is out of question. No, Fallen Angels to belong to the Undead either, but the Inferno.

Secondly, Changing the Wights would leave a huge hole in the Necropolis. So the Death Knights should remain Neutral.

So as not to completely destroy your initiative, the Bone Dragon should gain a defensive ability, like Immunity to Dark Magic. That would give it some leadway. The Horror Dragon should gain Fearful Aura, and the Spectral Dragon should gain...Festering Aura or something along those lines.

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Berny-Mac
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posted June 30, 2008 04:55 PM
Edited by Berny-Mac at 17:00, 30 Jun 2008.

@sith_of_ziost: true that, but can't an angel of it's own free will turn to the spider goddess instead of Elrath?
also your ideas of the other dragons would still not be very useful since no matter what crappy aura it has, they need some good abilities like the guys i put up.
As for the death knights, i never said anything bout them, but changing the wights would make a big hole in the necropolis since the death knights don't have anything to upgrade into, unlike the wights
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TheDeath
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posted June 30, 2008 05:07 PM

Quote:
true that, but can't an angel of it's own free will turn to the spider goddess instead of Elrath?
No because he is a pure creature, he never thinks about such things

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Berny-Mac
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Lord Vader
posted June 30, 2008 05:09 PM

who says he cant become a fallen angel that converts to asha?
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red_sparrow
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posted June 30, 2008 10:56 PM

Quote:
All right, a master of the Necropolis should now step in to voice his opinion. As he is out right now, I shall voice it for him. Changing the Tier 7 to an Angel is contradictory to established Necromancy. In the game, it is impossible to raise an Angel ("a being of pure light") as an Undead, so that is out of question. No, Fallen Angels to belong to the Undead either, but the Inferno.

Secondly, Changing the Wights would leave a huge hole in the Necropolis. So the Death Knights should remain Neutral.



well i don't see how if their are human necromancers, why an angel couldn't join a necromantic army
and i don't think it would leave that big a hole, as wights/wraiths could just take the death knights place as a neutral creature...i mean its just an idea of mine so take it with a grain of salt, but i think it would be pretty cool to have an undead army reflect the haven military

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Berny-Mac
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Lord Vader
posted June 30, 2008 11:05 PM

back on topic guys
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podz
podz


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posted July 06, 2008 12:16 PM

man that vampire dragon idea is crappy  way overpowered


however i would like to see it 1v1 agenst an upgraded black dragon


that would be cool but man that ghost one seemed good!


i love the old homm3 and that ability is bazas good work with it




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Mytical
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Chaos seeking Harmony
posted July 06, 2008 12:22 PM

Well, I don't know why it is a dragon anyhow.  The Spider would be their ultimate creature (they worship asha in a spider like form if I rememebr right).  However, if you really want to make undead dragons viable do it like they should be.

Dracoliches.  Some of the down right scariest creatures ever in D&D.  A little physically weaker then normal dragons, but with some powerful magic (dragons can cast, but do to their own magic resistance the spells are weaker, dracoliches loose that magic resistance making their spells stronger.) They can also raise other undead.  So one of their spells would be Raise Dead.  Imagine THAT on your side as a necromancer.
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podz
podz


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Armageddons blade will return!
posted July 06, 2008 12:24 PM

whoah



good old d nd d


the dragolich= hell yeah!!! perfect necromancers pet heehe



good idea



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Mytical
Mytical


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Chaos seeking Harmony
posted July 06, 2008 12:29 PM

Yeah, but people would be calling IMBA if you put those bad boys into the line up.  Especially since they would have a fear aura and a gas breath attack (much like liches death cloud).
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Warmonger
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posted July 06, 2008 12:52 PM
Edited by Warmonger at 12:52, 06 Jul 2008.

In H3.5 they were tier 10 juggernauts and nobody really complained However, now we have access to  a variety of spells and abilities to make them more interesting. This is what people created NCF for, right?

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Berny-Mac
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posted July 06, 2008 02:39 PM

uhh......guys?
this ain't D&D (even though they had some pretty nice ideas).
if you want undead dragons that can cast huge magic stuff like raise dead or something, don't call it a dracolich (it's been used way to many times in other stuff), call it something else.
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Adrius
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posted July 06, 2008 03:23 PM

@Mytical: Yeah, I've thought about a spider for tier 7 too! Imagine the giant spider from Dark Messiah in H5, that would be awesome! (the non-upgraded version should be alive, but one of the upgrades could be undead.)

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