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Thread: [NCF_based] Skeleton Mage [ This thread is pages long: (1) 2 ] |
Radar

   
    
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the honest one
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posted July 10, 2008 11:11 AM |
bonus applied by VokialBG on 10 Jul 2008. |
Edited by radar at 06:48, 13 Sep 2008.
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[NCF_based] Skeleton Mage
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basics
the New Creature Framework thread by sfidanza: http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?TID=24698
project's web page: http://www.heroes-fr.com/en/new_creatures_framework.php
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stats & abilities
Thanks to Daystar (creature slot), William (proofread) and My-Key (icon)!
Skeleton Mage - Tier 1 upgrade, Neutral, balanced.
CREATURE_298 / CREATURE_SKELETAL_MAGE
power rating: 85

These animated skeletal remains of slain sorcerers wield the forces of Light and Dark magic, regardless of the fact it is a difficult task for a single mage to master both of the magic schools without self destruction. The answer to that riddle is that a reanimated Skeleton Mage is actually constructed from bits and pieces of any number of different skeletons, not a single one.
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1 - 3
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Costs 30 gold.
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Undead. Shooter. Caster. Siphon Mana.
Spellbook:

Mana 10, no mastery

Mana 4, mastery Basic

Mana 4, mastery Basic
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screenshots
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download
http://www.mediafire.com/?20zy52itxsp
Installation instructions: unpack directly into your game directory folder.
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my other creatures: Arcane Blades, Enchanter, Templar, Runelord, Dark Champion, Crystal Dragon, Evil Sorceress (New!)
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Warmonger

 
    
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posted July 10, 2008 12:06 PM |
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Not only looks great, but may also be pretty playable unlike the others. Will have to install it.
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Disturbed-Gnu

 
    
Supreme Hero
Elements of Life
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posted July 10, 2008 12:40 PM |
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Haha, looks cute and evil! The light in its hands is awesome!
Will download him right now!
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del_diablo

 
    
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Manifest
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posted July 10, 2008 01:37 PM |
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I am curius, what value does 1 have?
I mean:
*1skeleton = X spellpower
I want to know(because it got fireball )
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TheDeath

   
      
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with serious business
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posted July 10, 2008 01:40 PM |
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quote: I want to know(because it got fireball )
Archmages have Fireball too 
the spellpower formula is not linear, it's logarithmic
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Fauch

  
     
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posted July 10, 2008 01:54 PM |
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Edited by Fauch at 14:23, 10 Jul 2008.
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the skeletons have a growth of 20 per week I think.
so it's simple, a week of skeletons have the same spellpower as a week of mages or a week of balors.
the fireball of 2 balors = the fireball of 5 archmagi = the fireball of 20 skeletons.
err, no. I've just realised the skeletons cast it with no mastery...
so you can delete the armour of the skeleton without deleting its body.
the effect looks awesome on the picture, what is it?
now, I'm thinking, should I steal it for my mod?
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GenieLord

    
     
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Geny is Kapara
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posted July 10, 2008 02:32 PM |
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Wow, that's awesome! Downloaded.
Except of the fact that it has 8 mana and a Fireball costs 10 mana.
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VokialBG


Hero of Order
Proud to be true Barbarian!
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posted July 10, 2008 02:57 PM |
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It's a masterpiece Just the Bless doesn't fit good with the skellie (Undeads) imo, but this doesn't matter.
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Warmonger

 
    
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posted July 10, 2008 03:31 PM |
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quote: now, I'm thinking, should I steal it for my mod?
Adopt. Yep, we need good creatures and this one is of the best quality. At the same time should be promoted.
Also no reason to duplicate skellies endlessly.
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Radar

   
    
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posted July 11, 2008 04:04 AM |
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so you can delete the armour of the skeleton without deleting its body
Precisely - in original model Skeleton doesn't have anything under his armour that could be uncovered by whiping it out. I just toyed a little with alpha and retextured the armour itself so it looks like a natural chest made of bones (he has no spine though). Take a look at the texture inside the mod
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Except of the fact that it has 8 mana and a Fireball costs 10 mana. 
An ability to cast Fireball instantly would be imba even with no mastery. I resolved it in this way - Siphon Mana increases mana of your casters, so Skeleton's Mage itself too. So you can cast Fireball after sucking the mana out. Unfortunately AI is too dumb to use the combination...
And thanks for the QP.
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"it's so bad enough I can't tell how bad is"
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alcibiades


Hero of Order
The Hammer of Faith
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posted July 11, 2008 04:33 AM |
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quote:
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Except of the fact that it has 8 mana and a Fireball costs 10 mana. 
An ability to cast Fireball instantly would be imba even with no mastery. I resolved it in this way - Siphon Mana increases mana of your casters, so Skeleton's Mage itself too. So you can cast Fireball after sucking the mana out. Unfortunately AI is too dumb to use the combination...
Yes, this is an excellent way to resolve the balance issue! 
And yes, it looks quite amazing, good work.
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Fauch

  
     
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posted July 11, 2008 08:00 AM |
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quote:
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so you can delete the armour of the skeleton without deleting its body
Precisely - in original model Skeleton doesn't have anything under his armour that could be uncovered by whiping it out. I just toyed a little with alpha and retextured the armour itself so it looks like a natural chest made of bones (he has no spine though). Take a look at the texture inside the mod
actually I quickly looked at it, and didn't realise it was a modified armour.
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Kronos1000

  
   
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Fryslân Boppe
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posted July 11, 2008 01:25 PM |
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Great job! It looks as though it has new animations, but it doesn't!
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TheArchLich

 
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posted July 21, 2008 05:15 PM |
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where do i unpack that:
-UserMODs?
-data?
-bin?
Thanks. ^^ and yes i'm not good at these =)
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Warmonger

 
    
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fallen artist
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posted July 22, 2008 12:41 AM |
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quote: Installation instructions: unpack directly into your game directory folder.
Assuming that you already have NCF core installed.
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TheArchLich

 
Tavern Dweller
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posted July 22, 2008 02:00 AM |
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and what is that?
where i can install that?
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DarkShadow

 
     
Legendary Hero
I have no regrets
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posted July 22, 2008 02:20 AM |
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VokialBG


Hero of Order
Proud to be true Barbarian!
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posted July 22, 2008 03:13 AM |
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Seraf

 

Hired Hero
away til august:(
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posted July 22, 2008 04:40 AM |
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BTW, he cant steal mana. He can only transef it to other casters, not to himself. I was fighting against Archliches and the ability was not available.
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Radar

   
    
Responsible
Supreme Hero
the honest one
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posted July 22, 2008 05:25 AM |
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you can suck mana only from heroes, not other creatures
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"it's so bad enough I can't tell how bad is"
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