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csarmi
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posted February 14, 2009 04:19 PM |
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What about a more radical solution?
Atk: 8
Def: 3
Dmg: 6
Inn: 14
Spd: 5
Hlt: 14
Sht: 16
Force arrow.
Ignore 50% defense.
No range penalty.
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Nebdar
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posted February 14, 2009 08:05 PM |
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hmm never tried too simulate this solution  But i think the only thing that needs change is Force Arrow and the number of shoots
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Fauch
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posted February 14, 2009 08:24 PM |
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init 14?
if I remember well, I gave init 9 to my own arcane archers
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csarmi
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posted February 14, 2009 10:04 PM |
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Edited by csarmi at 22:06, 14 Feb 2009.
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Yea, 14 init for fast, reliable damage at any range vs any creature with first strike (in the sense that it gets to shoot first almost all the time) - but considerably lower damage.
It would become a very special kind of shooter, really different from master hunter. The damage should be lower in the long run (or at least in short range), however.
Not sure if my numbers accomplish that task, since I didn't make enough calculations. Maybe defense reduction is just too much. What about giving it more attack, but forget about defense reduction?
Or just giving it less attack instead :-)
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Nebdar
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posted February 15, 2009 12:36 AM |
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init 14 LOL  i didn't noticed that at first sight so it will be overpowered
@csarmi did you read the last post on the first page of this thread. My post there you find the links where the other simulations have been made :
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csarmi
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posted February 15, 2009 09:06 AM |
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Edited by csarmi at 09:12, 15 Feb 2009.
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Well those tests are not really relevant here (they are made for entirely different statistics), but if you mean I should you the same tests to balance stats, that's ok. I won't do it, however, that kind of tests would take hours on my comp.
Here you go then:
Attack: 4
Defense: 6
Damage: 6
Init: 14
Hitpoints: 14
Speed: 5
Shots: 16
Shooter, force arrow, no range penalty
Force arrow = 30% defense reduction, knockback
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Nebdar
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posted February 15, 2009 09:20 AM |
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Edited by Nebdar at 09:51, 18 Feb 2009.
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these tests where done entierly for this thread.
And ok i will try to test your proposal when i will be in the mood..
Because the download link have outdated i post here new ones
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Changes in Forth
Atk: 6
Def: 5
Dmg: 8-9
Inn: 11
Spd: 5
Hlt: 14
Sht: 12
Abilit: Shooter
Force Arrow ignores 10% Defence
No Range Pen.
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zaio-baio
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posted June 13, 2010 03:42 PM |
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my suggestion :
more than half the battlefield - 25% ignored defence, less than that - 75% ignored def
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Nebdar
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posted June 18, 2010 02:13 PM |
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but how to do that it is probably immpossible
so thats why there are sloutions with paramters that we can change
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Fauch
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posted June 18, 2010 07:13 PM |
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Edited by Fauch at 19:16, 18 Jun 2010.
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I made it that way :
Hunter
HP 11
Dam 4-6
Ini 10
Att 4
Def 1
Shots 12
Double shot (instead of double elven shot)
master hunter :
HP 17
Dam 4-7
Ini 10
Att 5
Def 4
Shots 16
Double shot, warding arrows
Arcane archer
HP 17
Dam 6-7
Ini 11
Att 6
Def 5
Shots 16
no range penalty, ignore 33% of defense
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