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antipaladin
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posted January 14, 2009 03:35 PM

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Breakfast : A Palestinian 7-year old girls leg, that needed to be cut off. She was near a school building. A child should know better than to reside near such dangerous places.

Lunch : A health clinic. Made with international humanitarian aid, Israel keeps destroying any progress made in the area. Having the responsibility as an occupier to ensure the well being of the area, Israel is a rotten apple for all of the world that follow International humanitarian justice.

Dinner : A family of 5. Father, a mother and 3 children aged 11, 6 and 3. The 3 year old is roasted beautifully with white phosphorous, that has burned the baby through to the bone. Can you smell it?

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Forget the Italian menus or Creek ones, try special of Isreal. You will never be the same.


warning ! offensive abusive ignorant and idiotic post!
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posted January 14, 2009 04:02 PM

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I mean come on imagine your neighbor was bombarding your house. You'd do something wouldn't you? Not just take the beating lol.
You know, 80% of ALL wars in history have been made UNDER THAT EXCUSE/CONTEXT. (aka self-defense)
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posted January 14, 2009 04:06 PM

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I'm definitely not a Zionist, but you anti-Israel people are going too far. Israel is defending itself, and you're condemning it!


Anti-American this and anti-israel that. Always the same "nazi card". I adhere to international humanitarian standards, which of course powerful nations disregard as unfavourable to them. Maybe because their intention is to prevent atrocities in the sense that "might makes right".

So if sticking to international standards instead of those committed by Isreal, yes that does make me anti-Isreal. *rolls eyes*

This besides my provocative earlier post. Honestly, everyone is a bit too calm stand by watchers in this.
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posted January 14, 2009 09:48 PM


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At least (even i don't agree) that was an offensive abusive ignorant idiotic POST
NOT an offensive abusive ignorant idiotic WAR

Feel free to watch with your own eyes some "GREAT" pictures of YOUR bloody war.I would really like to post here the little dead children the SCHOOL "you" bombed.And that "you" i said includes you personally also -and i don't care if that offensive or not- who are from them to support this war.Everytime i hear israelis talking about Hamas rockets and that they have every right to make this war.OK but if you as you say know about losing friends and family and the feeling of being bombed and after that you can make such war believing you are the victims, WHY the palestinians don't believe the same who are the true victims and they are feeling worse than anyone these war.

Enough with your actions, this is going to Jewish community who support the war.Do not wonder about this whole issue about "anti-semitism" as you like to call it.I call it "realism".

And to close here are some phrases that your wise rabbis wrote and many of Jews (specially the zionists) have been taught.Phrases from the second holliest book for Jews, the Talmud:

"The Jews are called human beings, but the non-Jews are not humans. They are beasts."
Talmud: Baba mezia, 114b

"A pregnant non-Jew is no better than a pregnant animal."
Coschen hamischpat 405


"The souls of non-Jews come from impure sprits and are called pigs."
Jalkut Rubeni gadol 12b

"Although the non-Jew has the same body structure as the Jew, they compare with the Jew like a monkey to a human."
Schene luchoth haberith, p. 250 b

"If you eat with a Gentile, it is the same as eating with a dog."
Tosapoth, Jebamoth 94b

"It is permitted to take the body and the life of a Gentile."
Sepher ikkarim III c 25

And here's the phrase which show us the 62 years old Israel
Sanhedrin 57a . When a Jew murders a gentile ("Cuthean"), there will be no death penalty. What a Jew steals from a gentile he may keep.

Yebamoth 98a. All gentile children are animals.

Shabbath 116a. Jews must destroy the books of the Christians, i.e. the New Testament.
Dr. Israel Shahak of Hebrew University reports that the Israelis burned hundreds of New Testament Bibles in occupied Palestine on March 23, 1980 (cf. Jewish History, Jewish Religion, p. 21).

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del_diablo
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posted January 14, 2009 10:24 PM
Edited by del_diablo at 22:29, 14 Jan 2009.

Lets ignore the entire bullsnow about the religion here.
Christians calls Jews and Muslims heretics.
Jews also does the same the 2 the other in a other way.
The Muslims are no better in this case either.
All 3 of them are litteraly encouraging genocide against the other groups except the fact that Jews are all about marriage and blood bonds while the Christians and the Muslims are completely fanatical about converting. Its not really a difference is there?

We should have a law against waging wars due religion <.< So we can actually lay down the real reasons behind the bullsnow wars.
And anybody watched Starship Trooper 1 and 3? Its really good examples of propagandas.
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posted January 14, 2009 10:32 PM

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We should have a law against waging wars due religion <.<
Tell that to Stalin.

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And anybody watched Starship Trooper 1 and 3? Its really good examples of propagandas.
No that's really a good example of how we all are nazis.
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posted January 14, 2009 10:42 PM

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Tell that to Stalin.
You can say plenty of bad things about Stalin, but he never attacked anyone except in self-defense.
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posted January 14, 2009 10:54 PM

do not mix blood wit religion.
The koran has words like the jiah,it gives it justifictions. the new testmony! you delibertly insult ,not the war,not the way of war,but the pople wage war,and you excepct me to be nice about it? MUFF YOU! sirouslly give me one reason why i would spare you if my gun points at you? i'm not trying to morally justify israel,im justa sking,see the big picture rather then small one. if peace cannot be achived by words...enforced by arms,and i couldnt care less what you think,because your either too dumbfolded by the propganda...zionist...get that word out,Jewish religion forget it. Israely population is far not zionist and not jew,just people who fight to defend the homes of there beloved,and if someone will brake in my house i will not hesitete to kill him,with my own bare hands if nessery and i doubt that any of you will nto act the same way. self righouse ignorant,i would like to see how you act in the same metter,when your citezens will be killed and living in fear,then you come preach me,and untill you dont live here,you have no right,in what so ever to give me lection. Fool.
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posted January 14, 2009 10:55 PM

I have a solution...


DONT LET ISRAEL PARTIPACTE IN EUROVISION SONG CONTEST!!!
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posted January 14, 2009 11:03 PM

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do not mix blood wit religion.
The koran has words like the jiah,it gives it justifictions. the new testmony! you delibertly insult ,not the war,not the way of war,but the pople wage war,and you excepct me to be nice about it? MUFF YOU! sirouslly give me one reason why i would spare you if my gun points at you? i'm not trying to morally justify israel,im justa sking,see the big picture rather then small one. if peace cannot be achived by words...enforced by arms,and i couldnt care less what you think,because your either too dumbfolded by the propganda...zionist...get that word out,Jewish religion forget it. Israely population is far not zionist and not jew,just people who fight to defend the homes of there beloved,and if someone will brake in my house i will not hesitete to kill him,with my own bare hands if nessery and i doubt that any of you will nto act the same way. self righouse ignorant,i would like to see how you act in the same metter,when your citezens will be killed and living in fear,then you come preach me,and untill you dont live here,you have no right,in what so ever to give me lection. Fool.


Could you please spell or a little better or use some more spaces and dots? Its worse than my random ranting <.< Or maybe not >.>
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posted January 14, 2009 11:25 PM

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You can say plenty of bad things about Stalin, but he never attacked anyone except in self-defense.
Just like Israel, right?
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posted January 15, 2009 12:43 AM

In this case, Israel is defending itself. But sometimes self-defense goes too far.
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homam
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posted January 15, 2009 01:59 AM

Let's get the things straight to Ignorants.

Israel is a jewish country having more than 70% of it's population Jews.

About religion now.Yes other religions says also things for different religions.But ALL have a common ground.The world peace and the love of the human being.Only in Jewism you 'll found such terrible things. Something that makes me to believe that's the big part of Jewish behaviour.

If you like peace as you say and the only solution to achieve it is with war let me propose you to spread again to all over the world to find your roots.One shinny "morning" your grandfathers remember that they want some borders.Something like that back in the end of WW2:
"-Hey Moishe i can't stand the Europe anymore, why don't we go to the palestine?I have heard that the weather's good there"
"-Nieh the tickets are too expensive"
"-Don't worry Moishe we will go there with British Airlines for free.."
"-For free??Thank GOD let's go!!!"

You STOLE the lands after WW2.All the facts are against you.
And you who said that if someone gets into your home you would kill him with your bare hands go tell that boy to the palestinians.That's what you did to them before 62 years and you ask from them not to attack you?What an irony..

And since you don't want to understand anything at all please keep n mind only this.Most of the world don't like Israel.Maybe now you don't give a **** but someone does.And Israel and Zionists aswell will be punished in everyway as the everyone who commits crimes against humanity.Because when the wrath of the mass becomes unlimited there's nothing that can hold it.Not the zionists nor the God itself.And history has proven that many times.


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posted January 15, 2009 07:26 AM
Edited by DagothGares at 07:29, 15 Jan 2009.

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About religion now.Yes other religions says also things for different religions.But ALL have a common ground.The world peace and the love of the human being.Only in Jewism you 'll found such terrible things. Something that makes me to believe that's the big part of Jewish behaviour.
Your argument is flawed. They say the same thing about Islam and Christianity, the religion that is based on judaism.

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Because when the wrath of the mass becomes unlimited there's nothing that can hold it.Not the zionists nor the God itself.And history has proven that many times.
ehmm... no?

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Most of the world don't like Israel.
Since when has this become a popularity contest?

Why don't you roll over, so the general opinion can stomp on the other side of your face? Form your own opinion based on facts. Don't just... Agh, nevermind...
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posted January 15, 2009 02:22 PM

I am an Israeli.

@Minion: I don't eat Palestinians for breakfast, and I don't say to attack Gaza to kill Palestinians. I don't have any intention to kill people for nothing.

@HoMaM: I don't think that as a Jewish I'm better than any other person in the word.

I also don't call every person who doesn't agree with my opinions anti-semetic.

All I want is to live peacefully in my country. If you attack me, you should know it will have a reaction.

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posted January 15, 2009 02:35 PM

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I mean come on imagine your neighbor was bombarding your house. You'd do something wouldn't you? Not just take the beating lol.
You know, 80% of ALL wars in history have been made UNDER THAT EXCUSE/CONTEXT. (aka self-defense)

So what? I don't really see what this changes. Israel is being bombarded since Hamas took power in gaza (and before that lol). It's a fact thay they've been attacked constantly.
So how is what they're doing not in self-defense? How is their retaliation not justified (I mean the fact that they do something. Not how they do it)?
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posted January 15, 2009 03:34 PM

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So what? I don't really see what this changes. Israel is being bombarded since Hamas took power in gaza (and before that lol). It's a fact thay they've been attacked constantly.
yeah and it's a fact that more palestinian civilians died than israeli in all those years

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So how is what they're doing not in self-defense? How is their retaliation not justified (I mean the fact that they do something. Not how they do it)?
Take a look at history under that context. They were all "justified".

It's like two kids fighting you know? Yeah, let them beat each other to death! No one intervene! or are we going to point fingers "He started!" and "No he started!"?

cause you know there is NOT a moment in history when you say "This is the snapshot of how the world is -- from now on, who 'modifies' their territory or attacks someone else is considered offensive" at a certain period in time, you can't do that, it's just childish to not look at history for exactly the same thing happening -- like Lexxan said.
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posted January 15, 2009 03:38 PM

I understand that this is a very sensitive topic that people have extremely strong opinions about, so it is human nature to become hot tempered and excitable when expressing your opinions. However I must remind you all of the CoC yet again...

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Please do go back and edit your posts, any posts that are left unedited by Monday will be penalized.

Minion, that post you made was disgusting - please remove it.

I don't wish to stop the discussion, but the intensely offensive posting needs to stop. Please try to remember that we have people posting here from around the world - and while you may think that you're posting views on a political situation, you should also remember that the things you say do come across as very insulting to the members who come from these countries.

Think before you post, and double check what you've written before you click 'submit'.

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posted January 15, 2009 09:27 PM

@TheDeath
A. I've already stated my opinion about the ratio of killed civilians.

B. No, when two kids are fighting you don't let them kill each other, you stop them, find out why are they fighting (this time) and give each one what he needs (needs, not wants). However, so far no one except the Egyptians have made a real effort to help the two sides come to an agreement. So until then those "kids" are trying to solve their problems in their way, because they understood a long time ago that they just can't agree peacefully without outside help.
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posted January 16, 2009 12:47 AM
Edited by homam at 00:50, 16 Jan 2009.

What i wanted to hear so much i heard it from Geny.Yeah i don't like Israel's actions now and jews' actions through out years.However this doesn't make me to want rockets in their heads (i said that cause i'm tired of how Jews see the whole issue about anti-semitism). I tried many times in my mind to give some right to Israel but everytime i see all these terrible pictures from Gaza specially the dead 8 years old girl on his father hands after bombing that school.All this gave me anger and you Israelis you have to understand that as i understand that i can't ask from you to live in your homes with rockets flying above your heads.

But the biggest part for being so neggative against Israel is that i blame for this situation only Israel.And i believe it and i will still believe it.I'm not talking for the last years that both sides were wrong.And not to forget that in a war both sides are wrong.I'm reffering as i've said so many times that this land is not yours.And it's a matter of natural reaction when someone takes your property to act.

Also i don't believe that this war is for PEACE.This war is for the elections on Israel and for taking more lands and more lands till you take all the Gaza and the other lands of Palestinians.It's like Hamas rockets work perfect for the Israeli leaders to make this war.Same thing with 9/11

And Israeli politicians should go to a trial next to Hamas leaders for crimes against humanity.That's how the things are in my mind.And i got more upset here from the Israelis who watch(?) all this massacre in cold blood, few miles from their home.

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