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TheDeath
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posted January 19, 2009 04:42 PM

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And what do you mean "find me in Sweden"?
you don't want to know
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posted January 19, 2009 04:45 PM

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Hamas are the terrorists for heavens sake!
And those damn Iraqians too (oops sorry I meant Saddam Hussein)
Burn him at stake! We should have listened to Palin.

sorry for over-exaggerated sarcasm

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Will you people seriously get a hold of yourself going all "ISRAEL ARE NOOBS!" and Israel is this and Israel is that. They are on the freakin defensive here oO.
Soviet Russia was too. So was USA in second World War, but heck, even Japan was on defensive (some people claim that).

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It's documented for crying out loud! There are videos of that stuff! Watch the news.
How did they film it, if it's so cruel, and such a bad battlefield? Maybe they should think how to strategically take them out instead of thinking from which angle is the best shot. Or maybe it was set up?
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posted January 19, 2009 04:46 PM

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However, if you really want to put it in terms of better or worse, here's what I said: Our military is better than Palestinian military. Not in terms of equipment, but in terms of morals. Maybe, just maybe if HAMAS wouldn't hide behind their own people the Palestinian civilians casualties wouldn't be higher than 13 as well.


Pretty hypocritical, I'd say. Israeli army is accused of using Palestinian families as human shields, and that it is a very common method. But not defensing Hamas behaviour, if they shoot rockets from schools. Yet then again, at least many UN sources have told that no place of theirs has been used by Hamas militants yet you have bombed them to the ground. Hard to tell what is the truth. But what is the truth, is that you can't blame the method of Hamas for the 1,300 dead Palestinians. "we did nothing, they just happened to be where we bombed. They didn't need to be there" That is just absurd.


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posted January 19, 2009 04:49 PM

incase you haven noticed its ceasefire...but hamas claiming to have won..i can't understand them,sirously.
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posted January 19, 2009 04:50 PM

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but hamas claiming to have won
If their intention was to make Israel hated or something to "be taken in account" by the UN or other nations (Iran, etc) then yeah.
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posted January 19, 2009 04:50 PM

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However, if you really want to put it in terms of better or worse, here's what I said: Our military is better than Palestinian military. Not in terms of equipment, but in terms of morals. Maybe, just maybe if HAMAS wouldn't hide behind their own people the Palestinian civilians casualties wouldn't be higher than 13 as well.


Pretty hypocritical, I'd say. Israeli army is accused of using Palestinian families as human shields, and that it is a very common method. But not defensing Hamas behaviour, if they shoot rockets from schools. Yet then again, at least many UN sources have told that no place of theirs has been used by Hamas militants yet you have bombed them to the ground. Hard to tell what is the truth. But what is the truth, is that you can't blame the method of Hamas for the 1,300 dead Palestinians. "we did nothing, they just happened to be where we bombed. They didn't need to be there" That is just absurd.




with all due respect,and there is none,i really tink you cannot say,without living in here,for atleast 5 years. you have no idea whats it's like,so please,shut up,please shut up. Thank you.
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posted January 19, 2009 04:53 PM

It's better that way, to not be there. Unless there are palestinians around here. Since otherwise it could get biased
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posted January 19, 2009 04:56 PM
Edited by xerox at 16:59, 19 Jan 2009.

Let them think they have won then.

Israel has killed more children then Hamas (lol why are they could Hamas? sounds like something from McDonalds, mmm... McHamas).
They bomb schools too.

Then you're disgusting. You really really are!!!!!111

In addition, Israel was much smaller when it was born. Why did they not keep it that way?

And as I said before, I dont believe 100% in human shields. There are other ways without killing civilans.



And since im studying buddhism now (and will maybe become part of it, but im to lazy) its my duty to "defend" the palestians since they are the once that suffers the most.
Gaza is like a prison, where everybody is pretty much doomed to die.

Lets hope the ceasefire lasts for a long time.
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posted January 19, 2009 05:01 PM

You may call me sick! Stupid and everything like that, but her is what me and allmost everyone i know thinks about it.

Muslims only wish in life is to blow everything up (Suicide bombers), and as long as theire fight stays in thoose to countries, i don't care.
they can kill each other if they like, and that is maybe the best. I still remember sep 11th (As everyone does), and serioulsy? Muslims/Taliban or what ever they are called is brainless, sick and doesn't think about what they are doing. The muhammed drawing from denmark whasnt anything to be pissed over. It's a drawing! How harmfull can a drawing be?

Woops i shouldn't have said that, but that is the fact!

(Sorry for bad english) I'm 18, but not good at writting english..

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posted January 19, 2009 05:03 PM

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with all due respect,and there is none,i really tink you cannot say,without living in here,for atleast 5 years. you have no idea whats it's like,so please,shut up,please shut up. Thank you.


Your victim act isn't convincing, sorry. You have been forgiven a lot because of that, but there is only so much that it can cover. Killing civilians in the THOUSANDS is not one of them.
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posted January 19, 2009 05:04 PM
Edited by Geny at 17:08, 19 Jan 2009.

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But what is the truth, is that you can't blame the method of Hamas for the 1,300 dead Palestinians.

Can't you? Assuming that we believe that HAMAS is firing rockets from schools and hiding weapons in mosques (although I agree that finding a truly liable and non biased sort is hard), has HAMAS really no responsibility for the deaths of innocents? Of course they were not the ones who pulled the trigger, but still can you really say they have no part in those people's death? I can't.


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There are other ways without killing civilans.

Enlighten me.
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posted January 19, 2009 05:11 PM

Don't want dead civilians?  Don't order your people to attack an enemy state a few hours after the end of a cease fire.
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posted January 19, 2009 05:16 PM
Edited by antipaladin at 17:17, 19 Jan 2009.

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In addition, Israel was much smaller when it was born. Why did they not keep it that way?
what are you talking about?!
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And since im studying buddhism now (and will maybe become part of it, but im to lazy) its my duty to "defend" the palestians since they are the once that suffers the most.

Oh,xerox the 13,mighty protector,enlighten us,how will you protect it? will take a gun and stand before the army,or will sit on you *** and say words you cannot stand behind ?
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THOUSANDS is not one of them.

in the thousands now? i thought the casualitys ware only around thusand. not in the thusands...hmm i guess where killing them in even in the ceasefire eh?
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posted January 19, 2009 06:07 PM

My country had a have total peace for like 200 years.

Buddhists dont use weapons for warfare, just for fun and shows etc. Buddhists dont join competition. The most skilled martial arts people in the world are the Shaolin buddhist monks .
Yet they would never use any of their skills to hurt anybody.

If I become a buddhist, I will also become a pacifist. Eye for an eye doesnt work anymore, its time to step out of the old age (where religion is included, without religion this, crusades, witches etc would never have happened).

Killing over a thousand people is not acceptable, it doesnt matter if Hamas protects weapons et ceterea.

I cant do anything in this conflict. But I can influence others in my surroanding. I can enlighten people in my class that doesnt know. I can make them change their minds.

If I had a gun, and another guy also had that then if the other guy tried to shot me, I would not shot him to death.

Instead I would shot at some other part of his body, so that he did not die but not able to shot me. Then I would call and ambulance or something.

In my buddhism, killing any living life is a crime but it also depends. Just because im turning into buddhism, doesnt mean I must stop eat meat.
Humans are predatoary animals, we have always eaten meat and will always do.
I can however reduce my meat consumatiuon and join animal rights orginsiations to reduce the meat production and make the animals there have such a good life as possible.


Shao'lin Xerox cant see any light in a such bloodthirsty people. I cannot see the other side of you.

Buddhists must however always think on the bright side.

The bright side on this conflict is that human dies. The human speices have a way to high population and its good that its reduced (but a better method would be to force everybody to have a maximum of one child).

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posted January 19, 2009 06:12 PM
Edited by OmegaDestroyer at 18:13, 19 Jan 2009.

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If I had a gun, and another guy also had that then if the other guy tried to shot me, I would not shot him to death.

Instead I would shot at some other part of his body, so that he did not die but not able to shot me. Then I would call and ambulance or something.



A buddhist would not harm another being.  In your scenario, a true buddhist would attempt to deter his attacker through words, not force.  After all, violence achieves little.  Right?
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posted January 19, 2009 06:15 PM

Yes of course, but that was in case there was no other option.


Sweden was neutral in the world wars. Fail on you.
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posted January 19, 2009 06:16 PM

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My country had a have total peace for like 200 years.


THERE WERE NO WORLD WARS!!!!


Not in sweden.
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posted January 19, 2009 06:18 PM

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Yes of course, but that was in case there was no other option.


There is always an option not to use violence.  
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posted January 19, 2009 06:39 PM
Edited by lexxan at 13:21, 20 Jan 2009.

FLAME WAR CAUSE CENSORED
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posted January 19, 2009 06:43 PM

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Dammit, I hate it when thirteen year olds start to claim that they know it all.



Dammit, I hate it when anyone starts to claim that they know it all
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