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angelito
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posted March 17, 2009 07:41 PM |
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I tried it 9 times now....no good 
Not sure why...I have played the first day without any problems. And I didn't play WoG in between....
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angelito
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proud father of a princess
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posted March 17, 2009 08:08 PM |
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Your save worked fine Vlaad. Thanks. Don't know what is/was wrong here...
Not much to do this day. Bought Commander for Gurni (I love Gurni with a commander...no need for any single army at all  ), and built wolf pen.
DJs turn
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Dj
Promising
Supreme Hero
Always loyal to HC
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posted March 18, 2009 09:38 AM |
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A very banal day for Alagar, just a treasure chest and a construction of Town Hall in his town.
 Ayreons Turn
P.S. why do i download the save file from angelito with .GM6 and when i save my file has .GM4? o_O
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angelito
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
proud father of a princess
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posted March 18, 2009 10:29 AM |
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P.S. why do i download the save file from angelito with .GM6 and when i save my file has .GM4? o_O
Interesting u mention this. My first save of this day 2 turn was saved as *gm5 and not *gm6. Next try was fine though. ´
My explanation: When I have loaded the save from mamga Vlaad, and clicked on the flags to put me on tan, I maybe have put in 3 instead of 2 computer players. I gave the other participants in the hot seat mode numbers for names (player 2 = 2, player 3 = 3, etc...). First settings always show you as red player. When you now start to arrange those colors, you might put in a computer player and "delete" one of the names you have put in at the beginning.
Just a thought...
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Vlaad
Admirable
Legendary Hero
ghost of the past
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posted March 18, 2009 03:58 PM |
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Edited by Vlaad at 16:03, 18 Mar 2009.
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Every time you play you have to type six players. Technically you could type just two, but this way we avoid all the possible errors... and no need to set flags.
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Ayreon
Famous Hero
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posted March 18, 2009 04:57 PM |
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Day 2
Darkstorn went to the learning stone, where advanced learning was presented to him (the other choice was basic first aid), and the town has built a town hall.
Pacifist's turn
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pacifist
Famous Hero
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posted March 18, 2009 06:30 PM |
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Edited by pacifist at 19:35, 18 Mar 2009.
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Rion found a crown that will boost his knowledge so he decided to finish his turn in town and build the mage guild. The spell in the scroll is there too so it will go for a hero without magic book. Catherine received the first aid tent and the scroll and the 34 pikeman. She claimed the sulfur mine beating 17 wraiths without losing a single pike . In the meantime Tazar, after having rested in the cristal mine was ready for a series of fights (storm elementals, hell hounds, water elementals and finally archmagi defending a neutral town. he ended there his journey, seeing already the scorpicores guarding precious goods! That will be for tomorrow. One more hero was hired to collect ressources to build mage guild. Sephinroth heads for the red border guard.
Vlaad turn
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Salamandre
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
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posted March 18, 2009 07:02 PM |
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Vlaad
Admirable
Legendary Hero
ghost of the past
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posted March 18, 2009 07:45 PM |
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Edited by Vlaad at 21:21, 18 Mar 2009.
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Week 1, Day 3
Pyre followed the road south, beat a stack of Stone Golems, picked the Quiet Eye of the Dragon ring and attacked the Fire Elementals guarding a neutral outpost. She lost half of her Imps (so sue me - I don't even intend on using those later ) but got Basic Tactics. Finally, she managed to reach a chest, but still had no gold to build Tavern in her new town and recruit another scout there... So I decided to build Demon Gate in my main town instead. Meanwhile, Calh collected more wood, ore and mercury.
mamga's turn
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Salamandre
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Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
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posted March 18, 2009 07:49 PM |
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@lurker noob comment:
Arf, sultans. I hate fighting those on first week. Good development, Vlaad.
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angelito
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
proud father of a princess
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posted March 18, 2009 09:56 PM |
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So while Green and Rampart doesn't have a road at all, Rion and his Castle area has a cobblestone all the way. He travels at least double amount of steps each day. Is this map meant to be fair in any kind?
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Salamandre
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
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posted March 18, 2009 10:04 PM |
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Smirnow was certainly not a top player but he got serious testers for all the factions. He tried his best to balance it. The castle road ends there where you see on screen, and then it is swamp.
It is impossible to do an identical for all MP map, unless you are some ToH amateur mapmaker. I still think it is a very good map. To play alone
The Pacifist knows exactly what are the bonuses/inconvenient for each race, as he tested it before release and then Smirnow changed a lot of things. He will certainly write here all that. If he remembers it (map got out years ago)
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Vlaad
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Legendary Hero
ghost of the past
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posted March 18, 2009 10:05 PM |
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Edited by Vlaad at 00:54, 19 Mar 2009.
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So while Green and Rampart doesn't have a road at all, Rion and his Castle area has a cobblestone all the way. He travels at least double amount of steps each day. Is this map meant to be fair in any kind?
No.  Truth be told, Pacifist did say so... On the other hand, Dj could have had Gelu, Kyrre or Mephala but chose another hero...
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Salamandre
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
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posted March 18, 2009 10:13 PM |
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It is not the map to blame if the rampart player choose to take the wrong direction day one and keep dwarves. To each one his own style
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pacifist
Famous Hero
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posted March 18, 2009 11:32 PM |
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I don't remember everything but underground factions have to beat lv6 only to reach second town while on the surface there are lv7 blocking the way. Inferno , fortress and necropolis can reach second town in first week, Dungeon has harder fights but has Gunnar later and good hero selection at start can also reach town in first week and even flag lv8 dwelling and build portal of summonning + some hidden gifts. Stronghold has behemoths + castle on first week and can flag lv8 dwelling too. Rampart has Gelu or Gem at choice and all heroes have commander with first aid (those can help any faction if you want). Tower has Dracon. Well I remember having as easy with all factions and in a perdiod of +- 2 weeks all can have similar advancement. Best is to discover the map and its possibilities for each faction. Some imbalances compensate others but difficult to say everything.
Maybe we can start again on lower difficulty so everybody has easier time? We can change factions also if some seem too difficult to play. Also I checked the map and there is an error for Dungeon player that should have been corrected in last version of the map (this one isn't). The event applies to all players except player 1 (red) but it should be except player 3 (orange). That makes it more difficult for Dungeon and it was not meant to be like that.
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mamgaeater
Legendary Hero
Shroud, Flying, Trample, Haste
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posted March 19, 2009 12:44 AM |
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Day 3, Neela started off with a slow start but she is finally ready to take on the advanture... for starters she recruited Dracon to her cause after nabbing a large treasure chest of gold and lotting a bandit camp.
Dracon as it turns out was already well equipped for battle. with his army of enchanters h quickly rode out and slown(?) some fearsome wights... With enough gold for one more hero Neela decided to hire another hand... in the tavern was the powerful king roland and a hero armed with a pixie... Neela found it to be an obvious choice given that the hero's name was Luna. She had heard great tales of Luna's tactical prowess with her deadly firewalls...
(i got pretty lucky but i am behind still)
Angy's turn
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Vlaad
Admirable
Legendary Hero
ghost of the past
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posted March 19, 2009 12:45 AM |
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Edited by Vlaad at 00:56, 19 Mar 2009.
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Pacifist, I think what bothers most of us is not the guards or roads but the fact that you know exactly what you're doing... You keep talking about "hidden gifts" and such, while the rest of us are wandering around looking for Learning Stones. Frankly, I'm not sure any other map would be different. Besides, everybody can check the map... Even if we played a completely random map, one could load the latest save in singleplayer and explore. At least this scenario kicks ***. Finally, we won't fight each other and there are many ways to play against the map...Quote:
Maybe we can start again on lower difficulty so everybody has easier time? We can change factions also if some seem too difficult to play.
I don't know about others, but I would hate to restart now... It took us a week to begin this game. As for the difficulty settings, I think the map is rich enough and unless the player keeps taking exp from the chests he'll be fine. Quote:
Also I checked the map and there is an error for Dungeon player that should have been corrected in last version of the map (this one isn't). The event applies to all players except player 1 (red) but it should be except player 3 (orange). That makes it more difficult for Dungeon and it was not meant to be like that.
You mean when the Blackies attack you, right? We'll warn Ayreon about it and all he has to do is send a scout ahead instead of his main. If he cannot afford 2500 gold, we can all chip in.
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Salamandre
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Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
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posted March 19, 2009 01:10 AM |
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Indeed any map would be same unless you kick Pacifist. He is very annoying even when he never played the map.
I sent him my three maps and he just ridiculized them, finishing before me and mocking on all difficulties. And, believe me, they are difficult. So it is not about knowing the map.
He is a must to have as tester, and I hope this will be heard by all mapmakers who read this. Take him if you have the chance.
For once we have some top players here, so I will follow this carefully as there is always something to learn from. Angelito/Vlaad/Pacifist, great trio.
Come on people, do some effort, we are looking at this
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pacifist
Famous Hero
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posted March 19, 2009 01:25 AM |
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The event must be beaten, a scout doesn't make it disappear. It cancels after first visit but only if the monsters are beaten. He can take another road but it's longer and there are stronger monsters. I remember having played with Dungeon around that difficulty and finally those Dragons were good XP for Gunnar . I said that to Stephan Smirnow and he was supposed to have corrected the problem.
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Vlaad
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Legendary Hero
ghost of the past
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posted March 19, 2009 01:56 AM |
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Edited by Vlaad at 06:22, 19 Mar 2009.
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EDIT: I see. I tested the map in singleplayer tonight at 200% and resources are the least of our worries... So here's hoping Ayreon won't mind if he has to take the longer road and capture his fourth Dungeon several days later...?
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