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Heroes Community > Heroes 5 - Temple of Ashan > Thread: Facing creatures with 8+ speed
Thread: Facing creatures with 8+ speed
eldiez10
eldiez10


Hired Hero
posted March 16, 2009 04:16 PM

Facing creatures with 8+ speed

i was hoping to get some input on how to creep creatures with 8 speed and above (in other words creatures who can reach your large creatures first time they act).

i like to use the death imbrace set bonus which gives enemy creatures -1 speed it really helps against Djinn Sultan hell chargers firehounds and all those other nasty monsters who can deliver a mortal blow to your stacks.

but since i cant be sure to get 2 pieces of deaths embrace every game and i dont wanna be dependent on warmachines or ligth magic in order to resurrect.

so please post your strategy.


ps if u got some killer moves against mages/arch-mages and battle-mages im all ears to

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Elvin
Elvin


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posted March 16, 2009 04:25 PM

What faction are you referring to? There are more than a few ways. Also depends if the unit has some kind of firebreath attack or just normal melee like archangels.

A typical approach is have several single units covering a ranged unit in the corner. Can work better if you have last stand in which case you cover your archer stack with 2 unit stacks and have double the time to take them down. If the unit is flying stormwind can make the battle a piece of cake, -20% init and -2 speed hurts.

If you are dealing with firebreath units stormwind is a must unless you raise a powerful defensive stack that can take the first blow and keeps waiting with regeneration. Like thanes or cavaliers.
If you are dealing with champions do not place any units in the second line to avoid their champion-charge attack, have them all back and cover your stacks after they move.

Necro doesn't even care because it can raise the units back or use summoning/dark to stop them. Or even act first with swift mind. Dungeon can simply use stalkers go invisible and start nuking..
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Asheera
Asheera


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Elite Assassin
posted March 16, 2009 04:30 PM

Well first of all do not use large creatures when creeping those 8 speed enemies, so as to make sure the enemy won't reach you in the first turn. For Haven for example, Marksmen can be excellent with their Precise Shot at taking high level units easily (protected by a 1 Peasant Stack, obviously), you do not need any large creature to creep. Same goes to magic factions like Dungeon and Academy, in which the hero does most of the job and not your units.
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eldiez10
eldiez10


Hired Hero
posted March 16, 2009 04:52 PM

thx for your response Elvin now i got a couple of things i wanna try. stormwind and last stand

i also uses several single units covering a ranged unit in the corner but never thougt as far as last stand would give me a second time. Fantastic.

one thing i dont get is how storm wind gives -2 speed the skillwheel says 1

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Asheera
Asheera


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posted March 16, 2009 04:59 PM

It was changed in 3.1 patch but the Skill Wheel hasn't been modified. Also I think even in game the description is incorrect.
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eldiez10
eldiez10


Hired Hero
posted March 16, 2009 05:33 PM

ok thats nice to know

anything else not updated  i need to know to improve my game?

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