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Zilo
Promising
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posted May 17, 2009 09:23 PM |
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Does this tournament games counts in toh rankings?
Yes, every game should be reported as usual for ToH. Only difference is that u should write about that game here, in the forum, too.
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So we choose three Heroes and after that strike-out?
You can do it (and, imo, thats the most interesting and fair system). But official rule is that both players choose particular town and hero.
In other words, you can agree with your opponent to use strike-out system or simply go all random. But if you both can not agree on which system to use, then its "choose town/hero" rule.
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Elit
Famous Hero
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posted May 18, 2009 05:59 AM |
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pls Lord Michal and Destro msg me in msn for arange when we can start games. msn: elitte_bg@yahoo.com
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LordMichal
Known Hero
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posted May 19, 2009 01:48 PM |
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I just read about some scener or what, what is it? Somebody cheats here or what?
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Zilo
Promising
Adventuring Hero
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posted May 19, 2009 10:21 PM |
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I just read about some scener or what, what is it? Somebody cheats here or what?
LOL, what answer do you expect? "Yah, everyone is cheater!"? 
In short - heroes playing always was based on honor and trust in another player. I and most other players in ToH play only with those ppl that you know pretty much and enjoy playing with them. Of course, there are means how to cheat and if somebody wanna do its hard to detect or prevent it. Yet, since I know fairly well most of the tourney participants, my subjective opinion is that there are no cheaters what-so-ever.
You described it very good in another thread - you play for fun and good emotions, so do I and so do most of the others 
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LordMichal
Known Hero
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posted May 20, 2009 01:59 PM |
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Good to know Thank you. I think that we will start with Elit in next days. GL and HF for all
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Elit
Famous Hero
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posted May 23, 2009 06:59 AM |
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Edited by Elit at 07:06, 23 May 2009.
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We started game with LordMichal last night. I'm Academy/Nur vs Haven/Vitorio. Its replays from shipiard guards.
MyShipiard
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Week 2 i decide to attack my teleport ....its was stupid Colossus but game suprised me bad 
MyTownTeleport
Few days later i did another mistake and click "Turn" before move any hero  . We did save week 3 day 7. Look like both from us is still alive so game continue
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Fraudatio
Famous Hero
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posted May 23, 2009 08:28 AM |
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DrOwnage and myself has started aswell, he generously offered me a new game when i suicided one of the first days, so we started again for the Hunt. The setup is me Nathir, and he is Naadir. We followed each other quite closely, both taking the mine garrison rather late, he one day earlier than me. Then he broke runes etc while i had to do one more round back to castle. So now he is quite some days ahead of me, he took necro mega dwell easily with his 20 wraights, 24 lich masters and some skelliearchers.
But - as long as there is life there is hope, even though I had a horrible few turns yesterday. Hopefully next game status is "Nathir strikes back" 
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Zilo
Promising
Adventuring Hero
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posted May 23, 2009 09:18 AM |
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Nice replays Elit. Hehe, Nur is da bomba, one of the best heroes here indeed Also that Vittorio fight was nice as well, entering shipyard garn without mana was bold move from LordMichal.
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Zilo
Promising
Adventuring Hero
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posted June 22, 2009 09:41 AM |
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4. Final ranking in the group is determined by the number of wins. If two players have same number of wins, the decisive factor is the win in the game between them. If three players have same number of wins, their final rank is decided by playing 3-way game on map "Rat Race".
Since it looks quite possible that the rule about 3 players with same number of points will be needed, some explanations here:
A. All 3 players involved can agree between themselves on all issues regarding additional game/games. This means that you three can play Rat Race with any rules you can agree (e.g., those proposed by Elit or Fiur) or even use another map/maps to determine top 2 players (e.g., play 3 more Twilight games or play Arena map for fast lotery)
B. If 3 players involved cannot reach the agreement, following rules should be used:
- one 3-way game on Rat Race, random town/hero, hard diffuculty
- first player who is out of the map (meaning, first player who has lost all his heroes and all towns) gets 3rd place; second player out gets 2nd place; the winner of the game gets 1st place
- no other rules
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Elit
Famous Hero
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posted June 22, 2009 09:51 AM |
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- first player who is out of the map (meaning, first player who has lost all his heroes and all towns) gets 3rd place; second player out gets 2nd place; the winner of the game gets 1st place
This is very very stupid. First who is out is one from top 2 faster in midle. So if he loss why he need to be n3 when last player is not ever go in midle? If you start think logical sistem can be very simple:
1-2 fight -->winer won n1 and dismis all. In game stay next 2 most weak for fight for second place. Winer get n2 losser n3.
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Kispagat
Famous Hero
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posted June 22, 2009 03:27 PM |
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If you start think logical sistem can be very simple:
1-2 fight -->winer won n1 and dismis all. In game stay next 2 most weak for fight for second place. Winer get n2 losser n3.
I think this proposal makes sense to avoid town sitting.
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Zilo
Promising
Adventuring Hero
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posted June 22, 2009 04:24 PM |
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If you start think logical sistem can be very simple:
1-2 fight -->winer won n1 and dismis all. In game stay next 2 most weak for fight for second place. Winer get n2 losser n3.
I don't mind it at all. As I wrote before, its all in your own hands, all i'm concerned is that you let me know the results Besides, Destro and Slayer can still make some surprizes happen, so may be there won't be any need for this one..
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DIEGIS
Supreme Hero
power of Zamolxis
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posted June 22, 2009 11:01 PM |
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Edited by DIEGIS at 23:06, 22 Jun 2009.
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when this thread came up?...If its not too late Id like to join
edit: ooops ive just noticed....its 2l8...next time then
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Jinxer
Legendary Hero
*****
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posted June 23, 2009 01:31 AM |
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Edited by Jinxer at 01:35, 23 Jun 2009.
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I would like to make a suggestion... I would like to have ANOTHER Balrog Tourny Started... mainly for Amateur level players on the map.. forexample.. this first tournament was obviously designed around the experts.. this first round was pretty much to decide which amateur got to play in round 2.. But I am suggesting another tourny where there are no players already in the 2nd round.. and all players that enter it must have only few games played of map.. For example.. less then 10 games played.
I have to admit.. this map has a certain charm to it.. but it IS a map that you MUST do your homework on... I am just now after a couple games starting to understand a few things about map.. but to little to late for this first tourny. I did silly stuff like not knowing how many steps it takes to get to shore from town and where to go to beable to get boat summed and get on.. I was always 1 hex short..
@ Zilo... can you organize an amateur version of this tourny. Basically I want another shot at map  My first few games were sacrifced to learning the map.. To bad I dont have patients to play and do my homework in Single player.. I mighta done better in first tourny.
Even tho I still have small miracle of chance to beat DrOWnage. He has beaten me to middle.. but I survived the Balrog garrison so I am feeling some hope.. Maybe he will get a bit aggressive in middle garrisons and die there BUT then if miracle does happen and I beat DrOWNAGE... then I need fiur to beat DrOwnage so that there will be a 3 way tie for the 2nd spot so even tho things look grim... there is STILL a chance
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DrOwnage
Adventuring Hero
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posted June 23, 2009 03:48 PM |
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Edited by DrOwnage at 15:52, 23 Jun 2009.
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d silly stuff like not knowing how many steps it takes to get to shore from town and where to go to beable to get boat summed and get on.. I was always 1 hex short..
Maybe somebody can ask the right question concerning how many turns it takes from a to b and Zilo posts answers, because that's something i sometimes ask myself, but i find it too boring to find it out in single player. Would be good if this is made known, because it puts the inexperienced player at a serious disadvantage here if one doesnt know those things.
I'll start with stuff i've gotten from zilo:
Player 2 position:
- from start island to Titans & Wolves only possible in one turn with navigation and sextant
- from wich hut on start island to lvl 6 isle without anything in one turn
Both positions:
- Key hut can be freed and sextant can be taken without disembarking
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fiur
Promising
Supreme Hero
Map Creator
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posted June 23, 2009 04:09 PM |
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- from wich hut on start island to lvl 6 isle without anything in one turn
warning! if U stand 1mm wrong next to hut blue Player U still miss lvl.6 dwelling by 1 mm
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DIEGIS
Supreme Hero
power of Zamolxis
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posted June 23, 2009 04:49 PM |
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I would like to make a suggestion... I would like to have ANOTHER Balrog Tourny Started... mainly for Amateur level players on the map..
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Zilo
Promising
Adventuring Hero
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posted June 23, 2009 05:56 PM |
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First of all, i'm glad that Jinx doesn't give up till its over, thats the spirit! Although I would be really surprized if Drownage will lose 2 games in a row, he is getting better and better and, imo, he will do very well in play-offs, too. But u never know..
Regarding one more tourney - lets not be hasty, burrarum Lets first finish this one + Fiur will start his pretty soon. Although, may be some tourney on another map, like Genesis, is an option as well, no?
Regarding mega-tips - you ask questions and I will answer gladly. In any case, distances to objects are almost identical in both sides, so almost everything you can do on one side, you will be able to do on another. And indeed you can reach titans/wolves in one turn with navigation and indeed you can attack lighthouse guards and tent guards from the sea without landing.
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Kispagat
Famous Hero
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posted June 23, 2009 07:34 PM |
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Edited by Kispagat at 19:35, 23 Jun 2009.
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And indeed you can reach titans/wolves in one turn with navigation and indeed you can attack lighthouse guards and tent guards from the sea without landing.
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I did not know this last one about key tent
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Jinxer
Legendary Hero
*****
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posted June 23, 2009 08:30 PM |
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Edited by Jinxer at 20:45, 23 Jun 2009.
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Just Finished with DrOWNage... and I learned ALOT this game.. DrOWNAGE is a very honorable player.. his only fault is he is not patient enough
BUT... unfortunately I have to retract my request for another tourny.. The game and map had soo much potential as I said.. I was starting to feel the CHARM to it.. The balance was fairly decent. UNTIL!!! I experienced the Staff AND RING combo!! It has been sooooo long since I played on a map that did NOT have the MOD that puts them both in same hand slot. To beable to equip BOTH of them artifacts NO matter how Fast you are to get to middle etc.. is just ULTRA ULTRA silly. I am sure I would have lost the final battle anyways... But as everyone knows INITIATIVE wins battles. All during game I noticed that DrOWNAGE was allowing massive amounts of his army to die in the pursuit of advancement on map. And I kept wondering why?? I killed 230 Skirmishers and 120 MGuards in Balrog Garrison... I killed almost 100 BattleRangers and 40 MGuards in Ring Garrison.. etc etc.. and then when I seen the final battle initiative I understood why.... army doesnt matter when you have the higher stats and Initiative.. It was at that point that I lost the respect for how the Map is Balanced.
Sure there should be some rewards for getting to middle first.. But to make the reward sooo Grand that you can disregard how much army you lose to get there is horrible concept. This is 2nd game now that I have entered final battle with more army and had ZERO chance due to Initiative and Stats.
Either need to ban one of the RING or STAFF... or add the MOD that puts them both in same slot... Basically should never beable to use both.
And yes I know the first thing you will say is... Just be faster and beat them to the arts lol.. but being fastest on Map should NOT always be the Key most important strategy on every map. Should be a nice balance of fast and steady ( not losing as little army as possible) i.e. if you are gonna go ULTRA fast and lose army... to get such HUGE middle bonuses then the lack of army SHOULD affect and cripple you to some degree in final battle. Middle bonuses should HELP for sure.. but never be game deciders.
Keep in mind there are 2 human Brains fighting vs. each other.. when you make maps that are won and lost by fastest to middle players.. it becomes Beating the MAP.. not beating your opponent. Just some thoughts.
Thanks for Game tho DrOWNAGE... I did enjoy playing you and did learn alot from you. So game was not a total waste. Hope for a rematch on genesis soon
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