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Heroes Community > Tournament of Honor > Thread: ~ New Tournament "Balrog Hunt" ~ Reports and Rankings
Thread: ~ New Tournament "Balrog Hunt" ~ Reports and Rankings This thread is 12 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 · «PREV / NEXT»
DrOwnage
DrOwnage


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posted June 06, 2009 09:40 PM

DrOwnage wins vs Bala Car. Not much to report here apart from that.

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fiur
fiur


Promising
Supreme Hero
Map Creator
posted June 09, 2009 05:00 PM

Just ended my games against Jinxer today
I won.....
not much to say about the final...

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Zilo
Zilo


Promising
Adventuring Hero
posted June 09, 2009 09:32 PM

Updated score table in the first post.

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Jinxer
Jinxer


Legendary Hero
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posted June 10, 2009 01:15 AM
Edited by Jinxer at 05:47, 10 Jun 2009.

Quote:
Just ended my games against Jinxer today
I won.....
not much to say about the final...




Indeed... I had double army.. Fiur had Double stats.. Both the same Hero Level.... Luck with arts decided this game..  Its a shame to waste all that Great creeping just cause all artifacts in my path sucked and Fiurs arts didnt. I even took the SUNKEN.. and still couldnt get any stat artifacts.. PUH!


Congrats Fiur!!!!

I WILL BE ROOTING FOR YOU IN THE FINALS!!  
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Elvin
Elvin


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Endless Revival
posted June 10, 2009 08:30 AM
Edited by Elvin at 08:31, 10 Jun 2009.

You sure he didn't just play better? I never understood the reasoning that perfect creeping means victory in the final battle.
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Jinxer
Jinxer


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posted June 10, 2009 07:06 PM
Edited by Jinxer at 19:08, 10 Jun 2009.

Read more closely... I didnt say.. PERFECT Creeping.. I said Great Creeping..  And by that I meant.. I never suicided and lost ALMOST no units all game. And Fiur Suicided one of his scouts that had 50 arcanes and handful of treants and some sprites and lost lotta Dancers thru out creeping also.. etc etc.. and then add to that my DE raising.. I had way way higher amounts of army.. and we was both same hero level.. Yet.. I stood no chance in final battle even with Puppet and Frenzy.. because of Sylvans silly high initiative.. and his attack/defense was soooo much higher.. I could not find attack/defense arts.  Fiur Played great.. not saying he played bad... but all I hear about the Great TW map is how BALANCED it is..  if it is soo balanced.. then even Crappy necro should stand a chance.. and when they enter battle with DOUBLE army and same hero level as opponent and then LOSE horribly... then I would say that either the map truely isnt balanced.. or it boiled down to BAD luck with Artifacts.. which is what I said in the beginning  But as I found out about Heroes... 1 perk or 1 spell can completely flip flop end result of a game.. And that is silly.. the 10 hour creeping and thinking and planning process part of game should play a huge role in outcome.  Not get to final battle and roll the dice.

Anyways.. Fiur always plays great!  
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valkyrica
valkyrica


Supreme Hero
posted June 10, 2009 07:22 PM

i've yet to see a similar post about a lucky win on your side jinx
Being a hypocrite ?
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Jinxer
Jinxer


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posted June 10, 2009 07:54 PM

Well you are true that I dont post about my lucky wins... But you know what... Fiur and I have been keeping track lately... and we have noticed.. that there are very very FEW actual close good final battles.  It usually is a slaughter for one side or the other..  And believe it or not.. MOST of MY wins lately.. HAVE been Lucky.  But just like in poker.. you always tell the tales of the Bad beats.. not the Suckouts that went in your favor  But bottom line.. This game is is MOSTLY based on luck.. When you have 2 players that are of similar skill abilities.. the end result is MOSTLY decided by some random lucky roll of the dice occurance during game.. One player got better arts or the needed spell and other one got crappy spells or crappy artifacts.. or during battle the opponents hero was placed right after your hero etc etc.. All those things are random aspects of the game that are outta the control of the players abilities... so there skill and knowledge of game has little to no control over SOO many aspects of this game.

And all my comments are based on games played between 2 similarly skilled players. Ofcourse Strider is gonna beat a Squire 95% of the time based on his skill and understanding of game... he can overcome some of the bad luck aspects that are throw infront of him.. but when 2 players are almost equal in understanding and skill level.. Seems that the lucky aspects of this game are what in the long run controls and determines the outcome more so then the abilities of the players..



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Elvin
Elvin


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posted June 10, 2009 09:37 PM
Edited by Elvin at 21:38, 10 Jun 2009.

It can be for sure but do take into account(regardless of luck) that necro tends to be weaker than sylvan in the long run. In a map like this if expert players can fight week 4-5 it MAY be fine but I have every reason to believe you took at least two weeks more. And the outrageous amount of dwellings helps sylvan gather A LOT of units which is what makes it so good in lategame. It is a hard map to plan ahead if you play the first couple of times if for no other reason but you have said it yourself that you are no crazy rusher I am also aware that this map has a vast array of artifacts many of which not random so as to suit your needs if you know where to find them but I do not remember specifics. I think there is a dwarven set scattered around that would have been nice to collect.

This is another of those maps that have their own rules, it's not a typical H5 game. I personally dislike it but horses for courses..

Edit: Wait you said you have lucky games?
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fiur
fiur


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posted June 15, 2009 12:37 AM
Edited by fiur at 00:39, 15 Jun 2009.

Well I just finished my game against Bala Car
the clash between:
(Bala Car) and (fiur)

final battle Bala Car vrs fiur

PS!  : final battle: day 5 week 2 month 3 so yes long.... very long game

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Elvin
Elvin


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posted June 15, 2009 12:50 AM

Epic
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Strider_HL
Strider_HL


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posted June 15, 2009 08:40 AM

Banzai! Full dwarven set in action!! Maybe you have some fascinating garrison replays too? I doubt there is anything capable of destroying this necro armada

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fiur
fiur


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posted June 15, 2009 09:44 AM
Edited by fiur at 14:19, 15 Jun 2009.

sry no Strider I got no replays from those middle garrisons
(reason why is that I does'nt think its any interest to watch'em)
I used about 50 Wraights, Arch Liches (not sure how many)
and as all knoes those battles is'nt hard for necro at all
About Naadir I never got offered Arcane Intuition, and did'nt got slow (yes I search everywhere) and could'nt get Cotn.......
but with that dwarven set equipped I did'nt needed such spells...

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Zilo
Zilo


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Adventuring Hero
posted June 15, 2009 01:22 PM

Updated score board in the first post.

So far it looks that run towards Eastern Gate of Khazad-dum is led by Fiur and Drownage. Yet the real fight for play-off spots is still ahead

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Jinxer
Jinxer


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posted June 16, 2009 09:26 PM

Found a Nasty Bug on Twilight World.... Game wouldnt let me set Balrogs as Favorite Enemey...
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fiur
fiur


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posted June 16, 2009 09:46 PM

I'm sure you can Jinxer but... to set an favorite enemy at that level (balrog) you need to kill atleast 2... I guess you just killed the 1 in front of that balrog garrison right?
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Jinxer
Jinxer


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posted June 16, 2009 09:54 PM
Edited by Jinxer at 21:57, 16 Jun 2009.

ohh... yes you are right Fiur.. How Silly of me.. Forgot about that little detail.. Thanks for clearing that up... Then the ONLY bug is that there is only 1 Balrog infront of Garrison instead of 2  


Another Question I have about Incorporeal... Seems I recall in past.. Icebolt Missing on Ghosts.. I thought only Lightning Based spells always hit.  DrOwnage tells me that ALL spells always hit incorporeal?? Can someone set this straight?  Thanks
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natalka
natalka


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posted June 16, 2009 10:18 PM

LOL another noobish question. YES ALL SPELLS THAT DO MAGICAL DAMAGE HIT INCORPOREAL. To straighten it more fist of wrath is physical damage. Now let`s see what you understood.

Does fist of wrath hit incorporeal always or it only touches it for a bit. Also another question for advanced level - does horde`s anger hit incorporeal always. And for expert - how was it in 3.0 different or the same

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DagothGares
DagothGares


Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
No gods or kings
posted June 16, 2009 10:22 PM
Edited by DagothGares at 22:30, 16 Jun 2009.

Natalka, my dear, I'm afraid don't understand you under that sexy Romanian accent.
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Fraudatio
Fraudatio


Famous Hero
posted June 16, 2009 10:31 PM

I cant see why anyone would want to kill the discussion on these forums like that Natalka, you`re obviously doing what you can to suffocate stuff that is what should be in here, questions, tactical discussions etc. Why? You`ve shown to be one of the greater players here, so its kindof a shame. The cyclops don`t throw rocks in H5, neither should we i guess. At least not whichhunting like that

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