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Disturbed-Gnu
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posted May 26, 2009 09:28 PM |
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HC - DJ
I think it's time for a difficult battle between HC members in the fantastic arts of electronic music.. Trance, Techno, Dance ... you name it. What ever your specialition is..
This competition is about creating the best Track via electronic music programs or a DJ station.. ( So actually it's a producer competition, but i like the name DJ better ;p )
Rules: (There is always rules)
1: I decide what category you should make.. (It can be hard to see the difrent at some tracks, but i will do my best.)
2: You may ofcourse not just take a track and mix it with some other tracks.
3: And it's forbidden to use other tracks already made. There is so much music out there, so this rule would be hard to keep.
Before i ask for more people to join the judge, i would like to see how many interestet, and how long time you should spend on it.
I myself usually creates an okay track in a month or two..
And while you are posting, please tell me your favorite DJ, and how you feel about Tiesto being number 1... Thank you
EDIT 1# Round 1! Make an electronic track.
DJ's on the Station:
-CELFIOUS
-DJ
-KESNAR
-William
You will be judged on Smooth Fading
And Great Bass kicks
And Originality
And variation in sounds (I hate tracks with the same sound all the way)
And your choice of instruments (If you look at Barcodo Brothers Flute and theire Spring?, and DJ Mangoos Eurodancer, and all thoose with a special intrument..)
And ofcourse if you use voices from wellknown artists.
And if you sing your self, and makes the voice fit the music theme, i'll give bonus too..
And how your background repeating sound fits the rest. Or vice versa
You get 1 point for each acchieved task (ABOVE)
-- So last thing to say is: Let me hear some damn good music
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posted May 26, 2009 09:40 PM |
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How many attendants do you expect? More than 0.017?
Gonna complete my production this summer - I repeat it for a few years already, but no effects have been seen.
In the meantime we can finally discuss electronic music, glad I'm not the only one who plays with it.
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and how you feel about Tiesto being number 1
PR has strong influence on weak minds. Seriously, I didn't hear anything from him for year and a half. He is artificially sustained concept rather than an individual artist.
Recently I've heard greta set from Mike Nichol, although he has nasty habit of talking over and over while he hasn't anything interesting to say.
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Disturbed-Gnu
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posted May 26, 2009 10:10 PM |
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I didn't expect many, actually none.. But it isn't that hard to create..
But we can change this thread into an Electronic Music discution then.
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PR has strong influence on weak minds. Seriously, I didn't hear anything from him for year and a half. He is artificially sustained concept rather than an individual artist.
He is number one! Not only by PR, but seriously, you don't find any other Dj traveling the world arround to give concerts. He is the top of the list, his name is known all over the world, and more known than any other. How can you miss all that?!?
The king of electronic music IS Tiesto.
And i'm going to hear him live in next week ;p SKIVE BEACH PARTY
Mike Nichol is good ;p But i don't like his categori so much. It's not too hardcore and neither too soft, he is in the middle.
And his songs/tracks takes time arround 9 minutes. He reminds me of a danish DJ/Producer.
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Celfious
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posted May 26, 2009 10:34 PM |
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I will join!! This encourages me to use all the downloads from http://www.freesound.org/index.php
They quite possibly have over 10,000 sounds that are free to download. It only requires a basic registration and valid email.
Dang it.. I have helped the competition!! lol
Well, it doesn't matter, William will win if he posts
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Warmonger
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posted May 27, 2009 07:14 AM |
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He is the top of the list, his name is known all over the world, and more known than any other.
In this awe you forgot about the most important thing - the music.  The mere fact something is popular doesn't mean it's any good. Often opposite.Tiesto had his best time in 2000-2004 and you all have to get over it.
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And his songs/tracks takes time arround 9 minutes.
Oh no. That's too much compared to average DJ set.
Actualy I as talking about his mixing skills, not productions, which used to be great last year btw. Never heard anyone else sucessfully using pitch fade in such dynamic way.
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Disturbed-Gnu
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posted May 27, 2009 04:35 PM |
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I will join!! This encourages me to use all the downloads from http://www.freesound.org/index.php
They quite possibly have over 10,000 sounds that are free to download. It only requires a basic registration and valid email.
Dang it.. I have helped the competition!! lol
Well, it doesn't matter, William will win if he posts
I didn't think ther would be any one to join. Well that's fantastic ;p
Then we just need at least one more to join ;p
BTW the freesound.org is kinda paridise for electronic music creators.
.. And that makes me think: What programs do you use to edit, make, create and finish your music? (Please don't say Fruity Loops, i hate that)
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In this awe you forgot about the most important thing - the music. The mere fact something is popular doesn't mean it's any good. Often opposite.Tiesto had his best time in 2000-2004 and you all have to get over it.
Oh yeah, he is known all over the world, but that is useless because there will be people hwo doesn't like his music genre.
But 2000-2004 only? I don't know about you, but i love The Elemenets of Life! So for a Tiesto fan like me, his music will never end..
But we could discuss that for ages without movin on.
I'm looking forwad to his new album.
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Oh no. That's too much compared to average DJ set.
Actualy I as talking about his mixing skills, not productions, which used to be great last year btw. Never heard anyone else sucessfully using pitch fade in such dynamic way.
Hmm, neither me. He knows how to impress people..
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To move on, what do you think of Paul Van Dyk?
I remember the one EA used in Need for Speed Underground 2. (It was a Cirrus remix but the original is awesome too) Slow Soft Dance/Trance. It's a very good track for relaxing a bit..
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Elvin
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posted May 27, 2009 05:35 PM |
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Like him, let go is probably my favourite. Castles In The Sky, tell me why, angel are pretty relaxing as well.
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Map also hosted on Moddb
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baklava
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posted May 27, 2009 05:54 PM |
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(Please don't say Fruity Loops, i hate that)
What's wrong with Fruity Loops? I use Fruity Loops. It can be fun as hell.
Though I'm not a fan of electronic music in general.
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Dj
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posted May 27, 2009 06:41 PM |
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i can join too. i use fruty loops too. Here is an evidence that i can (but that doesnt mean that i make good tracks) create a track somehow  . it's my 1st and last attempt. i didnt have time and motivation to create others. maybe with this contest i will make more songs. btw - i hope u noticed i'm more on the rock side  ^_^
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kesnar
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posted May 27, 2009 07:19 PM |
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Here's an album I have uploaded...
http://www.last.fm/music/kesnar
But I'm in exam's period so I don't think I will participate with something new(if you want pick one from the album)
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Disturbed-Gnu
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posted May 27, 2009 08:57 PM |
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Oh yeah! Sweeet! More joiners ;p Thanks DJ and Kesnar..
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What's wrong with Fruity Loops? I use Fruity Loops. It can be fun as hell.
Though I'm not a fan of electronic music in general.
Yes i can be fun, but you mostly can hear it was made in fruity loops, unless you really did edit the sample with fx: Cool Edit Pro 2 (Which i think is best, but i had a discution with errh ? on HC, and he had another favorite edit program)
I have or rather did have Fruity Loops, it is fun yes, and you can use it for creating music. So basicly the program does whatever you whant in electronic music ;p
I did create some tracks, but people could hear that i created it in fruity loops, so i deleted it...
Now i'm searching the net for sounds (drums, bass, guitar strings and you name it..) and samlples it with AVS media, and then make some pitching, blending, and what ever need to be done with cool edit.
And i think the results is so much better.. (But i didn't take my time to learn fruity loops)
DJ# That's for sure fruity Loops ;p Youre in.. Thanks. 36 seconds is a bit short, but it was electronic
Kesnar# I'll say its a bit difrent from what you normally hear, so that just makes it classic ;p
Is it a real album?
EDIT 1: Actually did you know that DJ Mangoo is using fruity loops ;p
Just to mention one we knows that use FL Studio
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TheDeath
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posted May 27, 2009 09:07 PM |
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LOL Cool Edit is a wave editor, not a sequencer! It doesn't even support VST instruments, 90% of the plugins out there are in that format.
It is good for wave editing I agree, but for MUSIC???
Soundforge and Adobe Audition (Cool Edit's successor) have a bit of sequencing in them but are far below a Digital Audio Workstation like FL Studio (FL Studio is also bottom-of-the-line).
Good (and expensive, if you buy them ) DAWs are: Steinberg Cubase or Nuendo, Cakewalk Sonar, Ableton Live, etc etc...
I can't do it right now until I get a new computer, but I'm planning on using LMMS (Linux Multimedia Studio). It's similar to FL Studio but is free and probably not as bloated, plus I don't need it for advanced stuff or built-in effects/instruments, just sequencing (piano roll). I have too many VSTs already (but I won't join, I'm planning on making soundtrack-ish and 'synthesized' orchestral music, not trance or dance or techno, which I don't really like -- I somewhat like ambience electronic though).
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posted May 27, 2009 09:28 PM |
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Oh yeah thats right! It was you i was having the discution with ;p
TheDeath 
And i'm in the mood for it right now.. But maybe you've right, or maybe not, i don't care. As long as i can create music by my methods, i don't care what you all say and mean about it ;p
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FL Studio (FL Studio is also bottom-of-the-line).
Look people! Always so damn negative, and we can't use anything unless the death has it.. (But i'm glad you saved Maximo from that mad king)
# Elvin # Oh yeah, castles in the sky is a legend.. Paul Van Dyk, Tiesto, Ian Van Dahl, Cascada, and DJ Sammy have created theire version of the song, and all of the is great..
I hate when such dj's as Satomi ruins the tracks speed and bass.
And the "tell me why" by Paul Van Dyk is just fantastic.
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TheDeath
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posted May 27, 2009 09:38 PM |
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FL Studio is bottom-of-the-line for DAWs (btw I thought you said you hated it too? ), doesn't mean it's bad, and in fact it would be more than enough for me, since LMMS is free and even simpler than FL Studio although it tries to be similar.
The extra functionality -- I don't need it, at all.
BTW if you are a sound designer you should definitely use Plogue Bidule. Especially if you want to modulate your tons of VSTs 
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posted May 27, 2009 09:43 PM |
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Cheese consumption is bad for your health.
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What's wrong with Fruity Loops?
Interface. Playing with automations can be much better challenge than playing any arcade game you can find.
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Ableton Live
That's a real monster, been using it for years now. Everything here is clear and intuitive, but I find it much better as complex DJ tool than tracker it was meant to be.
One of technical isues I can't deal with is that after ceratin point projects used work too slow or not load at all if I add more advanced VSTs than system can handle Always looking for simplest plugins which do their job, such as one-task equalizer, bandpass, echo. It makes no sense if high-end plugin is a multitask behemoth and takes half of system when I only need to tweak basic properties of the tune.
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posted May 27, 2009 09:53 PM |
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I do hate FL.. But i have FL8 and i have created some music in it.
Normally i don't just give it to other people, but to prove that i can use FL.. And i bet you can't hear it's FL studio, and that is because of COOL EDIT PRO 2 which is a fantastic program!
So give me your comments Death (And others ;p ) And try to tell me that Cool edit sucks once again
I'm planing to release an album (I did whant to call it Icix Dominition, but that sounds weak! So i called it Icix Block, and this is number 4 on my "BETA" version of my album..
Errh i can't get the link to work?
So copy paste this: Download
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TheDeath
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posted May 27, 2009 10:05 PM |
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What do you mean "sounds like FL studio"? FL Studio is just a sequencer, which automates and modulates plugin parameters and sends MIDI notes. There's no sound in that, the PLUGINS make the sound!
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posted May 27, 2009 10:15 PM |
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Normally you can always hear if it is fruity loops because they didn't edit it in another program first.
You can for an example hear DJ Mangoo created all tracks in FL studio. If listen to the background, you can hear a loop playing again and again, builded up by the standard drum, highhat, edited clap and the last one which i don't remember..
Correct me if i'm wrong
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TheDeath
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posted May 28, 2009 01:48 AM |
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Edited by TheDeath at 01:52, 28 May 2009.
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Let me clarify. FL Studio is a Digital Audio Workstation (DAW). The job of a DAW is to host plugins (or 'channels' in FL Studio, or 'tracks' in others), to send events to them (MIDI notes -- i.e via Piano Roll) and to send parameter data to them in real time (this is the 'parameter automation' or 'parameter modulation' as some say -- in FL Studio you do this by drawing the curve for, let's say, the volume -- volume is a parameter, it depends on the plugin you use tho).
Some plugins may have different parameters (knobs or otherwise other such parameter), and you can modulate them with the DAW.
That's what the DAW does. Of course, FL Studio (at least the pricey editions, not the lightest one) comes pre-packaged with many FL plugins (proprietary format).
A DAW by itself does NOT generate any sound, it just CONTROLS the music production by controlling and hosting plugins. FL Studio comes pre-packaged with plugins and, those are not part of FL Studio the DAW itself.
You can completely NOT USE them at all and use only 3rd party VST plugins. There are a TON of them out there (I would say maybe a thousand or more), ranging from free VST plugins to $2000 a piece or probably more. (professional equalizer VSTs for example)
FL Studio has nothing to do with the sound itself. Maybe what you mean when you say that FL Studio sounds a way is that the plugins that it comes pre-packaged with sound a certain way, and that would be true, but no one forces you to use them.
EDIT: I've listened to your piece and I think it was ok -- mind you, I may not be a good judge because I'm not really interested in trance/dance/techno so my view could be very biased, not to mention that I don't know how the "pro trancers" do it since I don't listen to them, so I can't say whether you were doing it 'how trance is supposed to be' (i.e good) or bad, but I think it was ok. 
If you are more serious into it, HC definitely isn't the best place to talk about it, so try for example the KVR forum:
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/
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posted May 28, 2009 03:40 AM |
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Edited by william at 04:05, 28 May 2009.
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(Please don't say Fruity Loops, i hate that)
I use Fruity Loops for all music that I make. I have used a variety of other programs as well that I kinda like such as Ableton and Reason. I'll join this.
Edit: Good post TheDeath (one above mine). kvraudio is a good site and I visit it a lot. You can also go to InternetDJ to put up your own music. I have an account there where you can listen to about 10 of my songs (8 being recent, 2 not).
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