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SAG
SAG


Promising
Supreme Hero
WCL owner
posted November 20, 2009 07:37 AM

giving load and giving restart are different things
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uruk-hai
uruk-hai


Adventuring Hero
posted November 20, 2009 11:00 PM

My feedback on some WCL rules:

- must Fight misplaced guards (FMG) rule

Sure, totaly makes sense! btw, why didn't u delete the game i had several month ago with a guy that avoided this rule passing through 2 zones?

- no Log spec

Should be allowed. Tazar is allowed, Crag is allowed, why not Gunnar? Is he so much better?

TOWN AND COLOR SELECTION:
Towns, available for selection are reduced by 1 by each player, turn-by-turn. Not allowed to pick same town types. When 3 towns are left, player will select town which he will play and his opponent will select from rest 2 towns. Player, who selects from 2 towns, will select color. Player with smaller rating should start haggling for towns.

No one ever uses this selection, its either we choose or go all random which is more often. I find it interesting though.

RESTARTS:
Player can take restart during first 3 own turns:
- if there is no road to second town on Balance template

Sure this is a restart.

- 1 restart with no reason

Horrible, should be removed and used only in big tourneys, yea? For fun games like the ones we play for WCL rankings, its simply a time waster.

Its your call anyways. My WCL handle is dread1, glad to be part of WCL.
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maretti
maretti


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Supreme Hero
posted November 22, 2009 02:35 PM

What do you do if blue is standing in a monolit and red goes through it day 1 with new troops?

If blue mentions that he stands there can he prevent red from going there?

How about red blocking blue day one, so that blue cant get his army out of the town or to his main?


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SAG
SAG


Promising
Supreme Hero
WCL owner
posted November 23, 2009 11:18 AM

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What do you do if blue is standing in a monolit and red goes through it day 1 with new troops?

If blue mentions that he stands there can he prevent red from going there?

How about red blocking blue day one, so that blue cant get his army out of the town or to his main?



what are your proposals? my opinion that in first case players should load autosave and red should not go into monolith; in second case, i don't know...in TE it's possible to counter RR by gold bets for Color, so it's possible to play with RR allowed at all.
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maretti
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posted November 24, 2009 11:34 PM

First case I think they should load. If blue tells him last min that he cant go there red should be allowed to a load if playing on will  lose him some movement.

Second case: The no red rush rule is made to secure blue his army day 1 when red has allready benefitted from his day 1 army. But to avoid making the rules to complicated I think red should be allowed to block blue.
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sachelos
sachelos


Known Hero
posted January 06, 2010 01:15 PM

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Why black_knight is still the "King" in rankings? As far as i remember Maretti won last season (2009).
No ofense, just wondering...

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black_knight
black_knight


Known Hero
LT League
posted January 06, 2010 02:53 PM

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Why black_knight is still the "King" in rankings? As far as i remember Maretti won last season (2009).
No ofense, just wondering...


And I though sachelos won last season

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Frey

Tavern Dweller
posted January 08, 2010 12:29 AM

Where can i find HOMM3 1.4 fr ???

I can't play online, and patch 1.4us don't fonctionnate on my version

Help me please!

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SAG
SAG


Promising
Supreme Hero
WCL owner
posted January 08, 2010 11:10 AM
Edited by SAG at 11:12, 08 Jan 2010.

Quote:
Why black_knight is still the "King" in rankings? As far as i remember Maretti won last season (2009).
No ofense, just wondering...

King will be announced at the beginning of February, as always was in previuos seasons. I have to prepare new crown
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maretti
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posted February 02, 2010 12:04 AM

Hi Sag

You seem busy at the moment, but I hope you will have time to consider some changes/improvements to WCL. I posted some suggestions more than half a year ago and you found some of them usefull but unfortunately nothing has happend. I would still like to see those changes happen. Especially the possibility of deleting prereports if both players agree and a substitution of the powerindex with wins over losses would be nice.

Futhermore I dont see any reson why the previous years winner of WCL should automaticly be on top of the rankings and it would be nice if you could see his current points on the ranking list. It would also be nice if his real record was shown and not black_knights

Maybe you should consider starting some subtournaments. The Polish leauge just gathered 70 players to a tournament so the demand seem to be there.

Finally I promised Dread1 (best H3 player in Lebanon) that I would mention to you that he would very much like you to delete his loss against Kalax, since Kalax broke the fmg rule twice. I believe he allready mentioned it to you a couple of hundred times.




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SAG
SAG


Promising
Supreme Hero
WCL owner
posted February 02, 2010 08:43 AM

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It would also be nice if his real record was shown and not black_knights

my fault, will fix very soon.
Quote:

Maybe you should consider starting some subtournaments. The Polish leauge just gathered 70 players to a tournament so the demand seem to be there.

multiple league sub-tournament will start in few days, i'm finalizing rules. Regarding some other sub-tournaments: it's really hard to manage timings for games so i have to develop automatic system for quick assigning win/loss when one player does not show in online.
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Finally I promised Dread1 (best H3 player in Lebanon) that I would mention to you that he would very much like you to delete his loss against Kalax, since Kalax broke the fmg rule twice. I believe he allready mentioned it to you a couple of hundred times.


i have tons escalations recently, as you see number of games has increased almost twice from normal level. I have to develop automatic system for escalations and I need some moderator support for them as well...
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angelito

Hero of Order
proud father of a princess
posted February 02, 2010 11:15 AM
Edited by angelito at 11:15, 02 Feb 2010.

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...I have to develop automatic system for escalations and I need some moderator support for them as well...
Send me a HCM if you need help here. Even though I do not play online anymore, I would have some time to spare for such things...
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uruk-hai
uruk-hai


Adventuring Hero
posted February 02, 2010 02:28 PM

Quote:
Finally I promised Dread1 (best H3 player in Lebanon) that I would mention to you that he would very much like you to delete his loss against Kalax, since Kalax broke the fmg rule twice. I believe he allready mentioned it to you a couple of hundred times.


Thanks for mentioning it 1 more time

Its ok SAG, tyt.
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SAG
SAG


Promising
Supreme Hero
WCL owner
posted February 06, 2010 03:06 PM

Quote:
It would also be nice if his real record was shown and not black_knights


fixed
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maretti
maretti


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Supreme Hero
posted February 12, 2010 12:37 AM

Any other changes comming up? I would apreciate it if you could say a few words about your opinion about my suggestions and whether you intend to change things or not, maybe even a time frame.

Maybe you should consider involving Angelito who very kindly offered his help.
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SAG
SAG


Promising
Supreme Hero
WCL owner
posted February 12, 2010 11:53 AM
Edited by SAG at 08:37, 15 Feb 2010.

Quote:
possibility of deleting prereports if both players agree

approved. average urgency. not easy, should be done with possibility to delete report even if opponent does not show in online and does not respond to emails. should be automatic.

Quote:
a substitution of the powerindex with wins over losses would be nice.

do you mean - at Statistics page? so, heroes with only 5 games and ratio 4:1 will be at the top? low priority.

Quote:
Futhermore I dont see any reson why the previous years winner of WCL should automaticly be on top of the rankings

it would be strange to see KING at the middle of the list - e.g. if KING plays not often. I will think about how i can show current rating of King in the list, not urgent.

FINALS
average urgency. would be nice to have Finals for main tournament this year. however this will be possible only if i will do system for ANY tournaments. atm very hard to arrange games and control the process manually. this is one of priority tasks.

PASSWORDS
very urgent. passwords >12 chars can not be used in WCL. however in registration emails passwords are written without clipping so people can't access reports etc.

PASSWORDS 2
very urgent. passwords can contain only english letters and numbers. global database clean up needed. most likely one of the problems with chat (not working under Firefox) is related with it and also "empty" reports happen possibly because of passwords/nicknames.

ESCALATIONS
very urgent. working on automation.

ONLINE BROADCASTS
atm on hold. no time

STATISTICS
not urgent. i should separate SOD from TE statistics. not difficult.

STATISTICS 2
not urgent. town-vs-town statistics

STATISTICS 3
not urgent. any experiments with PI.

RATING
not urgent. additional global rating (for all seasons, formula a bit changes; to be discussed)

PROFILES
not urgent. making info about previous seasons (score, rank) available in player's profile

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Maybe you should consider involving Angelito who very kindly offered his help.

sure. as soon as I will do tools to manage escalations I will involve Angelito and maybe few more people. Btw Protos kindly agreed to help to finish Arena sub-tournament Finals.
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maretti
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Supreme Hero
posted February 12, 2010 04:44 PM
Edited by maretti at 16:49, 12 Feb 2010.

"do you mean - at Statistics page? so, heroes with only 5 games and ratio 4:1 will be at the top? low priority."

A minimum number of games could be needed to get on the list or high on the list. Maybe 10 or 15.

"it would be strange to see KING at the middle of the list"

Its like in football, you dont have the winner from the previous season automaticly on top of the standings. Its the current season that matters. The king illustrates who won last season, nothing else.

"I will think about how i can show current rating of King in the list, not urgent."

Move the crown one spot to the left. Then there is room for the current rating.


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liophy
liophy


Famous Hero
Bulgarian
posted February 14, 2010 11:11 AM

My personal oppinion is that win/loss ratio is not good. This will urge people to play useles games against noobs, only in order to get to the top of the list.

The current system is good for me.

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maretti
maretti


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Supreme Hero
posted February 14, 2010 01:17 PM

Im not suggesting any changes to the (players) ranking system. Im talking about the statistic page. With enough games played I think these statistics could be pretty interesting.
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SAG
SAG


Promising
Supreme Hero
WCL owner
posted February 15, 2010 08:38 AM

added STATISTICS 2, 3, RATING, PROFILES to my previous post
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