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posted October 20, 2009 01:25 AM

Gun Tapes *Mind shredding content*

Well, I watched some gun tapes from varius sources, mostly on youtube. I watched how americans flying in choppers and aeroplanes aimed on white blurry shades seen through their heatvision cameras. Fireing. Tearing people apart. And for the first time in ten years I am crying. For the first time I feel like killing myself, because I some how feel responsible. I saw a man, running for his life. Explosion after exoplision around him. One on his left and he was tossed like a dismissed old towel into a wall. He got up and once agian he ran. An explosion in front of him knocked him off his feet. He tried to rise but an explosion engulfed his leg and as the explosion disappeared his legs were no more. He rolled in pain. Waving his arms in madness before one last explosion shredded his body to pieces, never to be seen again. He was targeted for living in the wrong place and he was targeted. The knowledge that someone can aim a gun at a person they know nothing about and has never seen before. A person that just happened to be on the street when the plane passed by.

I know that the Iraq/Iran/Afganistan war is old subjects, but there is still a wat going on! The war doesn't stop because the news only mentions it once a week. The war is as active as ever! Can some one tell me how some one can wage war against some one else? And how a human being so cold bloodedly can shred some one to pieces?!
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posted October 20, 2009 01:31 AM

Son, 2 people die every second. Does that make you feel a bit better?
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posted October 20, 2009 01:33 AM

No not really. It's not really death being the problem. It's the deliberate killing. That some one in his right mind can cause such destruction, horror and suffering for other people. And they say that the talibans are the terrorists? God damn, they must be scared!
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posted October 20, 2009 03:04 AM

War is hell, always has been, always will be.

I don't feel sorry for the Taliban. They are murderers who would love to blow up my wife and kids given the chance. They chose to be terrorists because they hate all non-Muslims who won't convert. Time for them to reap what they sow I guess.

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posted October 20, 2009 05:51 AM

He wasn't talking about Taliban, he was talking about innocents either caught in a crossfire or mistaken for unarmed Taliban/insurgents.
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posted October 20, 2009 06:05 AM

Some people are not bright enough to make the distinction Shy.  Everybody who is not like them is the enemy.  *shrugs*.  Its sad really.
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posted October 20, 2009 06:10 AM

The world is far from black and white... there are many shades of grey, brown and red...
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posted October 20, 2009 06:26 AM

It is more wonderful for it also.  Would be kinda boring and drab if everybody was exactly the same.  The beauty of this world is absolutely breath taking, and a lot of people miss it because of prejudices.  Too caught up in their bile and hate to see what is right in front of them.  Meh, before this gets into a rant I will leave it there.
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posted October 20, 2009 06:27 AM

There was no link or reference of any kind. How can you guys comment without knowing what was going on? You comment as if the guy being shot was some kind of innocent person. Maybe he was, maybe he wasn't, but you don't know that either way.

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posted October 20, 2009 06:28 AM

Sorry, I actually took it offtopic and was making more general comments.  We now return you to your regularly scheduled topic.
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posted October 20, 2009 08:22 AM

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He wasn't talking about Taliban, he was talking about innocents either caught in a crossfire or mistaken for unarmed Taliban/insurgents.


There was nothing there to say he was talking about innocents.

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The war is as active as ever! Can some one tell me how some one can wage war against some one else? And how a human being so cold bloodedly can shred some one to pieces?!


I did not see anything in his post that says he was discussing civilians.

It seemed to me he was talking about the horrors of war. There is often running in a battle as some soldiers will panic and run or run when they lose all hope of winning the battle.

Yes, war is horror but a horror that must be faced to preserve freedom.

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Some people are not bright enough to make the distinction Shy.  Everybody who is not like them is the enemy.  *shrugs*.  Its sad really.


True, but that is not true of me or of the vast majority of people.

I do not care about what anyone's race is or what their nationality is. The enemies are the terrorists not all Iranians, all Afghanis, all Muslims, ect.


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posted October 20, 2009 10:04 AM
Edited by Shares at 16:27, 20 Oct 2009.

I talked about guntapes. 95% of 'em are in heatvision or nightvision. There is absoloutly no way to tell the difference between a terrorist and a civilian. It would be impossible to distinct friend from foe if you don't know exactly where your friends are. I watched shoot at unarmed (no visible weapon) people and people who possibly was armed, though there is no way to see the difference some one holding a wooden board, a shovel and some one holding an RPG. When I said they knew nothing I meant absoloutely nothing.

And I didn't want to link cuz a lot of the videos contain gore, even though it's hard to see. Here is one, so you can go from there if you like.

And about the talibans, I think most of them aren't even terrorist. I think they were normal people but carries weapons, or that a lot of people decided: "Let's kill those god snowed americans!" when they started bombing their civilians. And by the way, I think that the terrorists have killed more soldiers in the war than people in bombing. Most of the bombings are in the middle east!

EDIT: there, more clear now
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posted October 20, 2009 11:47 AM
Edited by baklava at 11:47, 20 Oct 2009.

So I saw that train and I got on it
with a heart full of hate and a lust for vomit
now I'm walking on
the sunny side of the street
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posted October 20, 2009 03:20 PM
Edited by Elodin at 23:22, 20 Oct 2009.

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I talked about guntapes. 95% of 'em are in heatvision or nightvision. There is absoloutly no way to tell the difference between a terrorist and a civilian. It would be impossible to distinct friend from foe if you don't know exactly where your friends are. I watched shoot at unarmed (no visible weapon) people and people who possibly was armed, though there is no way to see the difference some one holding a wooden board, a shovel and some one holding an RPG. When I said they knew nothing I meant absoloutely nothing.

And I didn't want to link cuz a lot of the videos contain gore, even though it's hard to see. Here is one, so you can go from there if you like.

And about the talibans, I think most of them aren't even terrorist. I think they were normal people but carries weapons, or that a lot of people decided to kill those god damned americans when they started bombing their civilians. And by the way, I think that the terrorists have killed more soldiers in the war than people in bombing. Most of the bombings are in the middle east!


First, I'm sick of anti-American garbage. Americans don't target innocent civilians deliberately.

AND AMERICANS ARE NOT "GOD ***** AMERICANS."

Second, the tape is highly edited and a compilation of different things.

Third, what do you think happens during war? You land the helicopters and kiss the enemy?

Fourth, American soldiers have been fighting side by side with Iraqi soldiers so the attacks would have ben on terrorist coumpounds.

Fifth, do some research on the Taliban. They are an Islamic terrorist group.

It is moronic to think the Americans just started bombing randomly.

AND AMERICANS ARE NOT "GOD ***** AMERICANS."

I'm sick of anti-American garbage.

But that is ok, America is the greatest nation on earth and I know there are people who hate us for that and hate us because we don't have an Islamic cleeric ruling the nation.

Be a mouthpiece for terrorist propaganda if you wish. That is your right.

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posted October 20, 2009 03:27 PM

Some penalties for cursing.  Yes, I realize that there is worse out there.  You two could have at least purposely used 'snow', or worded it differently.  I honestly don't care what your views about Americans are or if you hate us.  That is your right, but lets keep it civil please.
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posted October 20, 2009 03:48 PM

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But that is ok, America is the greatest nation on earth and I know there are people who hate us for that and hate us because we don't have an Islamic cleeric ruling the nation.


I see you are holding hand up and walking in the line with rest of them...*clap*clap*clap*

Door has been long open and only now you walk in...
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posted October 20, 2009 04:25 PM

Elodin, I don't care what your opinion is, but if your sick of people with other opinions you shouldn't get into discussions about that specific subject.

Yes, the tape is edited, but I doubt that it would be hard for you to search for another tape on youtube. That's why I said you could go from there.
And of course the americans started bombing "randomly", or more precisly: They bomb accuratly at who ever could be a terrorist. Which is any one, so they bomb randomly, but accurate, at people within a specific area. I know that they are allied with Iraqi soldiers, because the iraqies aren't terrorists, and that's the point. The iraqies aren't terrorist, but the terrorists are iraqis (partly at least). The thing is that they shoot whatever iraqi could be a terrorist.

@Mytical: Ah, sorry. I was speaking from their point of view. I should have used "quotes."
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posted October 20, 2009 05:07 PM

Stepped over bodies in Bombay
tried to make it to the USA
ended up in Nepal
up on a roof with nothing at all

I knew that day
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posted October 20, 2009 07:13 PM

What I find interesting is, (some...a few...a lot...many) americans have problems with criticism. As soon as you say something against the USA or americans, you are either a moron, an islamist, an anti-christian, an "you name it".

I heard God didn't made us perfect..even not America
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posted October 20, 2009 10:49 PM

@Shares - Oh no, it wasn't about it being Anti-American.  Personally, I don't mind that (although I think we do get a lot of flack for absolutely nothing.)  The pro-american reply received the same penalty if you notice.

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