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mamgaeater
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posted November 16, 2009 01:37 AM
Edited by mamgaeater at 01:46, 16 Nov 2009.

Changing the formula at the end is the only thing i find perplexing.

All that has needed to be said has been said.

And EA is cheap. Anybody remember tiberium?
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But yeah, the only C&C game I really remember is Tiberian Sun. Things have probably improved since then.

Somewhat.
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emilsn
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posted November 16, 2009 08:41 AM

I am confused, you say they changed the gameplay?

So no more bases? Only units?
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angelito
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posted November 16, 2009 11:54 AM

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C&C created the real time "collect resources - build base - build units - attack opponents" thingy.
Not really. This was invenetd by DUNE.
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Doomforge
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posted November 16, 2009 12:14 PM
Edited by Doomforge at 12:14, 16 Nov 2009.

I always hoped for an RTS game that would make you skip the whole boring buildup phase. Seriously, after 1000 matches that involved the same buildup (in the same sequence), it's so tiresome to build that power plant again.

As for C&C4... tbh, I don't like the design... the explosions look weak. Seriously, stuff looks like imploding rather than exploding... where's the special BOOM effect, the shaking, the flying parts? You may say it's kitsch, but... Every flying part goes down so fast as if there was 100 times earth gravity there. Unit death animations are imho very important: if they are satisfying (flashy, so to speak), you are enjoying the carnage more. That's what I missed in, say, Diablo 2: Diablo1's death animations. There's still nothing better than Zombie death animation (with the loud "gulp" sound!) or Death Knight's spinning death. Seriously, I still love this game for that.

What I see in C&C 4 doesn't satisfy me.

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william
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posted November 16, 2009 12:46 PM

Complaining about unit death animations is one of the lamest reasons for complaining about a game I've ever heard in my life. They're not that important, at all. That's just my opinion though.
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bixie
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posted November 16, 2009 01:36 PM

right, for all those people moaning at EA about the C&C franchise.

GROW UP!

"oh my god, their killing it, by having all those stupid aliens and that rubbish new base building, why can't they keep it liek the old games, mehmehmhe!"

here's a suggestion, if you want to have command and conquer exactly like the old games PLAY THE OLD GAMES!!!!!! I think that what they are doing with command and conquer is interesting and innovative, and if nothing est, that is a good thing.
"oh god, the skrin didn't make any sense"
Because the story makes so much sense anyway!!!!!!!!!!
"oh god, you can't have population cap"
Yes you can! it creates more and better avenues to play, unless all you want to do is simple scorpion rush people, and that is your only tactic!!!!

Honestly, this is why I prefer Red alert over C&C, because at least when you have RA, you have a sense of humour and your able to laugh. in the tiberium saga, people get so possessive about it, for goodness sake, it's about a bald man trying to take over the world!
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Doomforge
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posted November 16, 2009 02:36 PM

Not complaining about unit death animations is one of the lamest reasons for not complaining about a game I've ever heard in my life. They're very important. That's just my opinion though.

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emilsn
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posted November 16, 2009 03:00 PM

The good thing about these games are that you have to build a base! ?

I want to build bases and then eleminate the enemy - or is that just me?

I dont want around 5units and then got to battle with only those...
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bixie
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posted November 16, 2009 05:59 PM

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The good thing about these games are that you have to build a base! ?

I want to build bases and then eleminate the enemy - or is that just me?

I dont want around 5units and then got to battle with only those...


if you want to do that, play the games that let you do that!
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TheDeath
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posted November 16, 2009 06:02 PM

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Complaining about unit death animations is one of the lamest reasons for complaining about a game I've ever heard in my life. They're not that important, at all. That's just my opinion though.
That's lame. They are FAR more important than any stupid texture detail and other insignificant graphics improvements.
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Seraphim
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posted November 16, 2009 11:41 PM
Edited by Seraphim at 23:50, 16 Nov 2009.

You know guys,playing with tanks that look like toys dont give you the feeling that you are actually fighting something serious.
Besides,the gameplay in C&C always involved bases(yes even renegade) and the tiberium universe had always been gritty and very dark.

Look at C&C4 now?


As for"Go play older games if you want base building" is a pathetic sentence for obvious reasons.Strawman fallacy.

I liked WIC which means that RTT is not a bad genre for me.See what C&C4 is? Crap mixed with 24/7 being online for offline
gamplay,RA3 designs and a break from the classic base building(not an RTS).

@ the death,what is important to you then?

I know your answer,it is gameplay.
My answer is easy,DoW 1. It had a good gameplay,good animations,good graphics(at those times) and great a voice acting(best ever for an RTS).

Which of these can you see in C&C4?


Edit: lets go to C&C3

It had a good voice acting,graphics(better than RA3 and C&C4 currently) and it provided no DRM crap. More?

I forgot to add,the unit designs in C&C3 were at least cool but not Toon like in C&C4.

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